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Old 11-19-2017, 03:05 PM   #88261
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Old 11-19-2017, 03:28 PM   #88262
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:19 PM   #88263
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:29 PM   #88264
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I think I'm to the point where watching the Bears is just something I can do without. Sick of watching Fox and his stupid coaching choices sink any chance the team has.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:31 PM   #88265
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I think I'm to the point where watching the Bears is just something I can do without. Sick of watching Fox and his stupid coaching choices sink any chance the team has.
I've simply gotten to the point in Garrett's unbelievably mediocre 7+ year tenure where I no longer really expect them to win. It's kinda nice, means most of the emotions I used to experience during the games are gone.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:36 PM   #88266
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This. It doesn't even have to be Jerry Jones that pulls the trigger, although I wouldn't mind at all if it was him. I miss the days of the NFL when it had a commissioner that didn't make everything about him. If Goodell has accomplished one thing, it's that he's made the legacies of Pete Rozelle and Paul Tagliabue look significantly better than his own from a comparative standpoint.
Goodell isn't making everything about him.

The extension is 95% Jerry making stuff about him. The Brady (and Zeke) cases are 95% irate fans and NFL people making things about him. The other 5% I'd peg on the media.

I can't even name something Goodell has actually done in a legit attempt to draw attention to himself.

Everytime I see people talk about how bad Goodell is, it's misplaced anger. Like legit, every single time.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:38 PM   #88267
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^^Very well spoken. I do agree with you in regards to Tags. In fact, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Still something off aboot Goodell that I can't put my finger on. Anyways, looking forward to tomorrow evening! Go Cowboys! [emoji14]
He looks like Buffalo Bill. That's what it is.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:39 PM   #88268
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Goodell isn't making everything about him.

The extension is 100% Jerry making stuff about him. The Brady (and Zeke) cases are 100% irate fans and NFL people making things about him. Nearly everything has a touch of media making things about him.

I can't even name something Goodell has actually done in a legit attempt to draw attention to himself.

Everytime I see people talk about how bad Goodell is, it's misplaced anger. Like legit, every single time.
Asking for $49.5 million a year + lifetime benefits is ridiculous. Does he help the league make $? Yes but the players are the main source of income, I disagree with his position needing a pay scale. I agree with Jerry that new restrictions need to be put in place in just what the commissioner is allowed to do. Far too much unilateral power that's been unchecked for quite awhile now.
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Goodell isn't making everything about him.

The extension is 95% Jerry making stuff about him. The Brady (and Zeke) cases are 95% irate fans and NFL people making things about him. The other 5% I'd peg on the media.

I can't even name something Goodell has actually done in a legit attempt to draw attention to himself.

Everytime I see people talk about how bad Goodell is, it's misplaced anger. Like legit, every single time.

Very well said.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:55 PM   #88270
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Battle of the 7-2's today. Lets go Vikes!

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Old 11-19-2017, 04:57 PM   #88271
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Asking for $49.5 million a year + lifetime benefits is ridiculous. Does he help the league make $? Yes but the players are the main source of income, I disagree with his position needing a pay scale. I agree with Jerry that new restrictions need to be put in place in just what the commissioner is allowed to do. Far too much unilateral power that's been unchecked for quite awhile now.
Clearly you aren’t aware how the CEO/VP level of corporate America works. For all intents and purposes Goodell is the CEO of the NFL, and he’s asking to be treated as such. He’s generated money..a lot of it. He’s made the company he works for the one of the biggest in America the World. Not to mention successfully navigating a massive lawsuit that would’ve crushed many companies. His kevlar vest is riddled with bullets. He’s done good for all 32 old geezers, why not get his due. Why not ask for the world to open up contract negotiations? Any smart person would. That way he has plenty of room to settle.

Again with the power. Any/all power he has was ok’ed by the old geezers. As I mentioned previously, Jones leading that charge.
Now Jones is acting like a jilted lover, and it’s just destroying his image. Kind of funny the story of Jones saying a racillay sensitive remark, from a few years ago at a wedding, surfaces this week. Lol! That’s called a warning shot.
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Old 11-19-2017, 05:03 PM   #88272
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Looking forward to Rams/Vikings, should be a good game. My other option is Chiefs/Giants and I don't think you could pay me to watch that....
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Clearly you aren’t aware how the CEO/VP level of corporate America works. For all intents and purposes Goodell is the CEO of the NFL, and he’s asking to be treated as such. He’s generated money..a lot of it. He’s made the company he works for the one of the biggest in America the World. Not to mention successfully navigating a massive lawsuit that would’ve crushed many companies. His kevlar vest is riddled with bullets. He’s done good for all 32 old geezers, why not get his due. Why not ask for the world to open up contract negotiations? Any smart person would. That way he has plenty of room to settle.

Again with the power. Any/all power he has was ok’ed by the old geezers. As I mentioned previously, Jones leading that charge.
Now Jones is acting like a jilted lover, and it’s just destroying his image. Kind of funny the story of Jones saying a racillay sensitive remark, from a few years ago at a wedding, surfaces this week. Lol! That’s called a warning shot.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but the way Kraft handled Brady's suspension versus the way Jones is handling Zeke's is very eye opening to me.
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Old 11-19-2017, 05:31 PM   #88275
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KC @ NYG is off to one wacky start!
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but the way Kraft handled Brady's suspension versus the way Jones is handling Zeke's is very eye opening to me.
No owner is a glory hound quite like Jerry, probably spends more time boozing it up than he does doing anything to improve our team.
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Old 11-19-2017, 05:38 PM   #88277
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If the giants beat KC then they are done.
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I've simply gotten to the point in Garrett's unbelievably mediocre 7+ year tenure where I no longer really expect them to win. It's kinda nice, means most of the emotions I used to experience during the games are gone.
I'm sick of Vance Joseph saying the "Broncos had a good practice this week but something didn't work out today."
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If the giants beat KC then they are done.
KC is already done, Smith isn't good enough for a deep play-off run.
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Old 11-19-2017, 05:50 PM   #88280
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Vernon Davis is 33 and playing like he’s 23! Dude is a beast! That’s Terp power for ya!
Washington has to be one of the toughest teams in the league considering all the injuries. They are so hard to put away.
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