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Old 12-21-2017, 11:51 PM   #90581
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I am, I've never been as impressed as most have with Gronk. He's a TD machine and sometimes takes over games but he's simply not durable. Gonzalez and Witten are the type of TE I would put in the Hall, not an over-sized slightly fragile WR like Gronk.
You know nothing. Witten can't hold Gronks jock in terms of football ability. You're crazy. Gronk looks and plays like he's a man amongst boys. Witten plays like he is just another member of the boys club. Not to denigrate Witten but cmon....
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:01 AM   #90582
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Dude, you know nothing then.
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You know nothing. Witten can't hold Gronks jock in terms of football ability. You're crazy. Gronk looks and plays like he's a man amongst boys. Witten plays like he is just another member of the boys club. Not to denigrate Witten but cmon....
Seems to be a theme here. Lol
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:19 AM   #90583
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Michael Irvin accused of impropriety by former NFLN employee

The following story was Posted by Mike Florio on December 21, 2017, 7:06 PM EST.

Here's is a link to the story by MIKE FLORIO!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nfln-employee/

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Man the NFL is really gonna get hit hard by sexual harassment. You can just feel that a lot of guys are going down. But not surprised to hear about Irvin he seems like he might be legitimately insane.
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:21 AM   #90584
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Michael Irvin has always been a scumbag.
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:23 AM   #90585
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Seems to be a theme here. Lol
Tony Gonzalez 270 games, 1325 catches
Jason Witten 237 games, 1145 catches
Robert Gronkowski 100 games, 469 catches
One of these is not like the others
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:33 AM   #90586
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Tony Gonzalez 270 games, 1325 catches
Jason Witten 237 games, 1145 catches
Robert Gronkowski 100 games, 469 catches
One of these is not like the others
One of these has two Super Bowl rings. The others have none.
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:34 AM   #90587
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Tony Gonzalez 270 games, 1325 catches
Jason Witten 237 games, 1145 catches
Robert Gronkowski 100 games, 469 catches
One of these is not like the others
Gronk 4 1,000 yard receiving in 8 seasons. Gonzalez 4 1,000 yard seasons in 17 seasons. Witten 4 1,000 yard seasons in 15 seasons. Two of these are not like the other.
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Bats just stop with this madness please. I love Witten & he will make it in to the HoF as well but so will Gronk, no question.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:43 AM   #90589
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One of these has two Super Bowl rings. The others have none.
So, you gotsta have rings to get in the H.O.F.??? Do they have to be earned honestly too?? Wait, Fran Tarkenton wants a moment of your time.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:57 AM   #90590
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Gronk has 75 TDS lol compared to Witten’s 68 in much fewer games, lol

Nothing like Gates 113. Gronk could get close though by the time he’s done.
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:18 AM   #90591
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What I am trying to say and failing apparently is that Gronk is a special player. However, I doubt 100 games of work is enough to get in. He is definitely on the way as long as he keeps putting up those numbers, might need to prove he can stay healthy though.
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:45 AM   #90592
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Hey, so remember when the McMahon's of WWE fame once thought it was a smart idea to start up their own football league (XFL), thinking they could compete with the NFL and lost a fortune on it? Well... it's baaaack. Or so it seems. Vince McMahon filed for new XFL patents and is looking to sell $100 million in WWE stock to flush down the toilet on another football venture that is virtually guaranteed to be another colossal disaster. I guess he thinks he can tap into the rage against the NFL by a small % of Americans having a freakout over player protests in the NFL. Please proceed Vince.

http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/2...ertainment-llc

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Vince McMahon's plan to perhaps try his hand again at a professional football league came more into focus Thursday.

McMahon is chairman and CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, which filed details with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission about McMahon's sale of 3.34 million shares of WWE, equaling about $100 million.

He did so, the filing noted, "primarily to fund a separate entity from the Company, Alpha Entertainment LLC, which Mr. McMahon established to explore investment opportunities across the sports and entertainment landscapes, including professional football."

The filing comes after WWE confirmed earlier in the week that Alpha Entertainment, which was founded in September, was in fact an entity of McMahon's.

Alpha filed for five trademarks related to the XFL on Dec. 16, according to records with the U.S. Trademark and Patent Office.
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Vince McMahon tried that

Bump... because Vince is apparently dumb enough to try it again.
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How did it try to compete with the NFL again?
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Any football between February and August works for me.
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Old 12-22-2017, 04:00 AM   #90596
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How did it try to compete with the NFL again?
It was a professional football league with little differentiation from the NFL. By definition it was competing with the NFL, and failed much like every other professional football league has. The Arena League is the only one I can think of that's survived for any length of time and it's a very different style of football, just barely surviving these days. Between the NFL and college football the market is already over saturated with football.
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So, you gotsta have rings to get in the H.O.F.??? Do they have to be earned honestly too?? Wait, Fran Tarkenton wants a moment of your time.
So does Barry Sanders
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Hey, so remember when the McMahon's of WWE fame once thought it was a smart idea to start up their own football league (XFL), thinking they could compete with the NFL and lost a fortune on it? Well... it's baaaack. Or so it seems. Vince McMahon filed for new XFL patents and is looking to sell $100 million in WWE stock to flush down the toilet on another football venture that is virtually guaranteed to be another colossal disaster. I guess he thinks he can tap into the rage against the NFL by a small % of Americans having a freakout over player protests in the NFL. Please proceed Vince.

http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/2...ertainment-llc
It failed last time because they had WWE wrestlers and announcers as PBP analysts so noone took it serious. If hes smart and im pretty sure he is he can make it work IF he develops it as a real league.
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And to a point, the XFL had been a little ahead of its time with initial success and popularity. The TV connections sucked, and lack of power back-ups, really hurt them.
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And to a point, the XFL had been a little ahead of its time with initial success and popularity. The TV connections sucked, and lack of power back-ups, really hurt them.
Not to mention theres ideas XFL had that NFL now uses

Skycam
Players/Coaches being Mic'ed

The fact that this time hes forming an alternate company that's not WWE shows hes serious about this. Maybe this time it will be taken seriously. I guess we will see the return of Kaepernick soon lol.
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