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San Francisco 49ers 28 50.91%
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:25 AM   #91621
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Who dat gonna beat them Falcons? How bout them Saints?
If the Saints beat the Falcons, it'd be in the NFC Championship game
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:25 AM   #91622
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Bill is not gonna leave. He is 65 years old, He has control over the entire roster, and both his sons are coaches on the team.

I mean he's gonna leave because his Quarterback played too good and he had to trade his back up?
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If the Saints beat the Falcons, it'd be in the NFC Championship game
You would be okay with that?
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:10 AM   #91624
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Bills have a decent shot but the health of Shady McCoy's foot hurts quite a bit.
The Key is Tyrod, you watch Bills D will show up and shut down Bortles.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:15 AM   #91625
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But Tom Brady was completing way more passes and had way more yards even before the injury.

This pretty much locks brady for MVP.

I don’t know about darling this is only is 3rd first all pro in a 17 year career. Like I said before him being 40 is in everyone’s mind because they have never seen a 40 year old do what he is doing.
What happened in 2008 when Brady was lost for the season? Cassel took them to 11-5 and just barely lost a playoff spot in a loaded AFC. Last season Brady misses the first four games, and two...TWO QBs combine to go 3-1.
You think any of that happens if Wentz misses the season? Lol! We have seen the Philly offense radically change in the 3+ games Wentz has missed. Would that happen if Brady were gone? Most likely not.
System makemthe QB maybe? I’m not saying Brady is unworthy, but 47 votes to TWO. Give me a break. If that’s not a darling, I don’t know what is.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:16 AM   #91626
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I doubt he will be as much of a media darling once this article (conveniently coming out at the end of the season after awards voting) comes out
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:17 AM   #91627
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What happened in 2008 when Brady was lost for the season? Cassel took them to 11-5 and just barely lost a playoff spot in a loaded AFC. Last season Brady misses the first four games, and two...TWO QBs combine to go 3-1.
You think any of that happens if Wentz misses the season? Lol! We have seen the Philly offense radically change in the 3+ games Wentz has missed. Would that happen if Brady were gone? Most likely not.
System makemthe QB maybe? I’m not saying Brady is unworthy, but 47 votes to TWO. Give me a break. If that’s not a darling, I don’t know what is.
Damn Rickah is just a voting, Wentz have his whole career ahead of him he will eventually get there, chill.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:20 AM   #91628
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What happened in 2008 when Brady was lost for the season? Cassel took them to 11-5 and just barely lost a playoff spot in a loaded AFC. Last season Brady misses the first four games, and two...TWO QBs combine to go 3-1.
You think any of that happens if Wentz misses the season? Lol! We have seen the Philly offense radically change in the 3+ games Wentz has missed. Would that happen if Brady were gone? Most likely not.
System makemthe QB maybe? I’m not saying Brady is unworthy, but 47 votes to TWO. Give me a break. If that’s not a darling, I don’t know what is.
You mean a 16-0 team went 11-5? That's like when people say Durant isn't playing tonight how will the 73-9 warriors make it.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:46 AM   #91629
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This is insane for a good but not great head coach. It could be $100 million plus an ownership stake.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-coach-tuesday

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The Oakland Raiders will sign Jon Gruden to one of the longest coaching deals in NFL history -- a 10-year contract likely approaching $100 million -- when it is made official Tuesday, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Friday.
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This is insane for a good but not great head coach. It could be $100 million plus an ownership stake.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-coach-tuesday
I believe the other two coaches to get a contract of that length were Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson. I may be a homer but I don't think Gruden is on their level.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:49 AM   #91631
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You mean a 16-0 team went 11-5? That's like when people say Durant isn't playing tonight how will the 73-9 warriors make it.
Lol, Moss has a lot to do with 16-0.
My point remains unchanged, we’ve seen proof of the system working without Brady.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention Wentz’s 3rd down stats. It’s off the charts.
Again, I’m not saying Brady is worthy of the award, just not 47 votes to 2 worthy.
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Lol, Moss has a lot to do with 16-0.
My point remains unchanged, we’ve seen proof of the system working without Brady.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention Wentz’s 3rd down stats. It’s off the charts.
Again, I’m not saying Brady is worthy of the award, just not 47 votes to 2 worthy.
You're underestimating the power of the media, especially since the voters tend to be biased towards the east coast.
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Damn Rickah is just a voting, Wentz have his whole career ahead of him he will eventually get there, chill.
I could counter with:

Damn BLMN, Brady has had his time, let other...equally...worthy candidates have theirs.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:54 AM   #91634
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You're underestimating the power of the media, especially since the voters tend to be biased towards the east coast.
Since when is Philly not an east coast team?
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I could counter with:

Damn BLMN, Brady has had his time, let other...equally...worthy candidates have theirs.
You're acting like Brady has a million MVP awards. He only has 2. That's 3 less than Mr. Regular Season Peyton Manning, the ultimate heartthrob of the AP voters.
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Since when is Philly not an east coast team?
Philadelphia doesn't have near the sway with voters that New England does, clearly. Has an Iggle EVER won MVP?
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You're acting like Brady has a million MVP awards. He only has 2. That's 3 less than Mr. Regular Season Peyton Manning, the ultimate heartthrob of the AP voters.
No I’m not. I’ve been focused on this season.
The only reason I mentioned the past was because that member mentioned the future.
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Philadelphia doesn't have near the sway with voters that New England does, clearly. Has an Iggle EVER won MVP?
Randall Cunningham did in the modern era.
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Randall Cunningham did in the modern era.
And don’t forget Norm won the AP in 1960, as the Pro Football Writers Association didn’t start until 1975.
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Lol, Moss has a lot to do with 16-0.
My point remains unchanged, we’ve seen proof of the system working without Brady.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention Wentz’s 3rd down stats. It’s off the charts.
Again, I’m not saying Brady is worthy of the award, just not 47 votes to 2 worthy.
My point was the team was 16-0 of course they went 11-5 they were stacked. I mean Matt cassel throw 21 tds, brady alone throw 23 just to moss. Your talking about a pro bowl QB taking over an undefeated team. The first year bill coached in 2000 the team went 5-11 there is the system not working without brady.
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