2025-2026 NFL Season Thread

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by RageATL

The more I try to read through some of the smoke screens that are being floated around on Twitter, the more I think we're taking Rosen over Mayfield. I really want Mayfield, but I think it's about fit with the organization as it currently stands and I think the NYJ feel more confident that Jeremy Bates (OC) can be the man to rein Rosen in and show him the ropes.

Good deal. So that way when the Browns select Barkley at 1, they can get Mayfield at 4 if that's who they want.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

And I’m sure you threw some kerosene on that fire didn’t you?

Haha, nah cuz he's only 21 but I DO think it's hilarious. The young lad has yet to navigate the depths of despair that his Uncle Rager has had as a lifelong NYJ fans, haha.

[BizCat]

Thoughts aside - this is why this draft is going to be one the most memorable. I can't wait for it. So many different ways this can go. For once it's not a foregone conclusion and we're able to have a fun, healthy (at least I think it is ) debate about it.

[Veronica Mars]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Running backs don't carry teams to Super Bowls these days. QB's do that.

You just made it 2 years!

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by BizCat

This whole "shelf life" narrative, whatever you call it, and positional value claims I find purely bogus. Sure, the style of today's play has changed some over the years, but you still need a threatening RB to be a threat. Or a valid running back committee, which most of the times aren't that great.. Philly and NE aside.

Look at the running backs of recent Super Bowl champions (not including the Eagles and Patriots). In 2015 Denver was led by a third round pick and an undrafted player. In 2013 Seattle was led by a back they got for a 4th round pick and a future 5th round pick. In 2012 Baltimore was led by a 2nd round pick. In 2011 the Giants were led by a 7th round pick and a 4th round pick. In 2010 Green Bay was led by a 2nd round pick. You have to go all the way to the 2009 Saints to find a Super Bowl champion that used a high pick on a running back, and that back (Reggie Bush) was the team's 3rd leading rusher.

[Batman1980]

Runningbacks are an important piece but it is hard to win a championship with at least a serviceable QB. Yes that was a shot at Case Keenum, the Vikings were close last year but he was the Achilles heel.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by BizCat

Thoughts aside - this is why this draft is going to be on the most memorable. I can't wait for it. So many different ways this can go. For once it's not a foregone conclusion and we're able to have a fun, healthy (at least I think it is ) debate about it.

I wholeheartedly agree! I'm just hoping we choose correctly and FINALLY get our franchise QB for many years to come.

[Moviefan1203]

Let’s go Buffalo!

Bills, baby, Bills!

[kidkash]

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Look at the running backs of recent Super Bowl champions (not including the Eagles and Patriots). In 2015 Denver was led by a third round pick and an undrafted player. In 2013 Seattle was led by a back they got for a 4th round pick and a future 5th round pick. In 2012 Baltimore was led by a 2nd round pick. In 2011 the Giants were led by a 7th round pick and a 4th round pick. In 2010 Green Bay was led by a 2nd round pick. You have to go all the way to the 2009 Saints to find a Super Bowl champion that used a high pick on a running back, and that back (Reggie Bush) was the team's 3rd leading rusher.

He’s unlike those

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by BizCat

He’s unlike those

Barkley is a great talent, but I don't think Guice is that far off from him.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by BizCat

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

This whole "shelf life" narrative, whatever you call it, and positional value claims I find purely bogus. Sure, the style of today's play has changed some over the years, but you still need a threatening RB to be a threat. Or a valid running back committee, which most of the times aren't that great.. Philly and NE aside.

The play style of the NFL has not merely changed, it's been transformed. It's a strongly pass first league. These days an 85-90 QB rating isn't guaranteed to keep a guy his starting job. 30 years ago that was an elite passer rating. Running backs are the Ford Pintos of the NFL. They once served a purpose but they aren't a necessary component anymore.

[TitansFan4Life]

Originally Posted by BizCat

Even if they took them, they would not have had the success they're having.

I agree, but that’s not a reason to pass on a player. The Browns have certainly been a mess, but for them to pass on potential franchise QBs due to the fact they’re a mess is like throwing in the towel.

You may need to keep them on the bench longer to make sure they don’t die out there. But, definitely in hindsight, it was a huge mistake for them to pass on a Wentz and again Watson.

[Rodney-2187]

I wonder which team is going to trade for the Giant's #2 pick? Somebody's going to do it.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

I wonder which team is going to trade for the Giant's #2 pick? Somebody's going to do it.

We offered them three 1st’s. Unless they come down from their mountain, they are picking with #2. We have moved onto Denver and Indianapolis.

[Veronica Mars]

If the Browns don't pick Barkley first and then grab a QB at 4, they will never make the playoffs...ever.

[imsounoriginal]

Why is it a given that NYG trades out of #2? Not like they don't need a QB too.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

We offered them three 1st’s. Unless they come down from their mountain, they are picking with #2. We have moved onto Denver and Indianapolis.

Things might be different on draft day.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars

If the Browns don't pick Barkley first and then grab a QB at 4, they will never make the playoffs...ever.

Hottest take I’ve ever seen...

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

Things might be different on draft day.

We shall see, man!