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Old 05-23-2018, 06:54 PM   #96561
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This is the controversy that wouldn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend.

I doubt we'll ever see a real resolution to it.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:36 PM   #96562
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Former Bills guard Richie Incognito, who was released Monday, is being involuntarily held for a mental health evaluation:

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Police were called and WKBW said Incognito was put under the provisions of the Baker Act, which means he had to undergo a mental evaluation. He was not arrested.

According to TMZ, Incognito threw a tennis ball at the other man, then threw a dumbbell at him. The victim said there was no reason for Incognito to begin throwing things at him.

TMZ said Incognito was “rambling about the government and screaming at the man to ‘get off my (expletive) playground.'” That’s when the police were called.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:48 PM   #96563
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Former Bills guard Richie Incognito, who was released Monday, is being involuntarily held for a mental health evaluation:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/richie-...181135623.html
Can't say that I'm surprised.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:57 PM   #96564
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Former Bills guard Richie Incognito, who was released Monday, is being involuntarily held for a mental health evaluation:



https://www.yahoo.com/sports/richie-...181135623.html
He’s been acting very erratically lately. Hence why he was granted his release.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:01 PM   #96565
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And the end of the day, its a business. If these players want to protest social injustice, they can do it off the clock kneeling in front of their local police station because I have yet to see one do so.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:02 PM   #96566
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There was an officer killed in Maryland earlier this week. Don't recall all the public and media outcry........
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:08 PM   #96567
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Here we go again...
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:22 PM   #96568
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Here we go again...
What? I like the new policy, and I hope it's the end of the whole anthem saga. But there's still people complaining and/or saying NFL is still blind in regards to the fight against "social injustice".. and I'm just saying, an incident happened earlier this week and hardly a peep about it. Can't have it both ways.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:37 PM   #96569
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What? I like the new policy, and I hope it's the end of the whole anthem saga. But there's still people complaining and/or saying NFL is still blind in regards to the fight against "social injustice".. and I'm just saying, an incident happened earlier this week and hardly a peep about it. Can't have it both ways.
I think this was a pretty fair deal for both sides.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:37 PM   #96570
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The NFL owners decision (majority owners being 97% white), imposed I'm on a league which is about 2/3rds black is really comical. This solves nothing. Here's what's going to happen. The players choosing to protest will be absent from the field for the anthem and fans and the media will take note of it, talking about it just as much as they have players who knelt in previous seasons. Mid week discussions in the media will be about who skipped the anthem and why.

In fact this might increase the discussion about national anthem protests because some guys might be injured or otherwise in disposed from being on the sidelines for the anthem and wrongly be called out as being "protesters." Personally I thought sports leagues should just do the anthem without the players on the field or eliminate it altogether. Instead they picked the worst possible solution. It won't content anyone on any side of the debate.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:39 PM   #96571
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I think this was a pretty fair deal for both sides.
I think it may be well intentioned but will not solve anything. As I posted above, it may just make matters worse as sportscasters and fans will spend even more time focusing on figuring out what players skipped attending the anthem.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:41 PM   #96572
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The NFL owners decision (majority owners being 97% white), imposed I'm on a league which is about 2/3rds black is really comical. This solves nothing. Here's what's going to happen. The players choosing to protest will be absent from the field for the anthem and fans and the media will take note of it, talking about it just as much as they have players who knelt in previous seasons. Mid week discussions in the media will be about who skipped the anthem and why.

In fact this might increase the discussion about national anthem protests because some guys might be injured or otherwise in disposed from being on the sidelines for the anthem and wrongly be called out as being "protesters." Personally I thought sports leagues should just do the anthem without the players on the field or eliminate it altogether. Instead they picked the worst possible solution. It won't content anyone on any side of the debate.
Yes. Either of those would be the better option.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:43 PM   #96573
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Why is the anthem even played before a sports game?
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:46 PM   #96574
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Why is the anthem even played before a sports game?
I've never understood that myself. I once read that it goes back to WWII when it was apparently done to stir up nationalism. Not sure if that's accurate but it sounded like a reasonable theory. I don't get the connection to sports, minus maybe the Olympics and events where U.S. national teams play these days.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:47 PM   #96575
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Why is the anthem even played before a sports game?
1814: Francis Scott Key wrote the Star Spangled Banner, while watching the bombardment of Fort McHenry in Baltimore.

•1889: Secretary of the Navy Benjamin F. Tracy called for the song to be played whenever the American flag was raised.

•1916: President Woodrow Wilson signed an executive order declaring the "Star Spangled Banner" the American national anthem.

•1918: The song was played spontaneously during the seventh-inning stretch of game one of the World Series between the Cubs and Red Sox, while the country had been in World War I for a year and half. After this, the song was often played on holidays or special occasions in many baseball parks.

•1931: Congress passed an act officially confirming the "Star Spangled Banner" as the national anthem, and President Hebert Hoover signed it into law.

•1941-42: Playing the national anthem before the start of regular season baseball games became the standard. And with the U.S. in World War II now, the National Football League also included the playing of the anthem before games.

•1945: NFL commissioner Elmer Layden said, "The playing of the national anthem should be as much a part of every game as the kickoff. We must not drop it simply because the war is over. We should never forget what it stands for."

•2009: NFL players began standing on the field for the national anthem before the start of primetime games. Before this, players would stay in their locker rooms except during the Super Bowl and after 9/11.

•2015: Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake released a report revealing that the Department of Defense had spent $6.8 million between 2012 and 2015 on what the senators called "paid patriotism" events before professional sports games, including American flag displays, honoring of military members, reenlistment ceremonies, etc. The DoD justified the money paid to 50 professional sports teams by calling it part of their recruiting strategy. However, many teams had these ceremonies without compensation from the military, and there was nothing found in the contracts that mandated that players stand during the anthem.
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Old 05-23-2018, 11:49 PM   #96576
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Felony domestic violence charges against Reuben Foster dismissed. He can rejoin the 49ers on Thursday.

Everyone who ripped on him and called him names on Twitter and Facebook will never acknowledge they were wrong and have already moved onto the next group think outrage.
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We're probably going to see a lot of this from various people and groups. I doubt any players ends up actually paying a dime for protesting. Advocacy groups will just end up picking up the tabs for players who "violate" the new rule.

And just in case anyone was wondering, Christopher Johnson, like most of his family is not some liberal. His politics are known to be similar to Woody Johnson, his elder brother and Trump's Ambassador to the UK.

http://pix11.com/2018/05/23/jets-ceo...esting-report/

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The New York Jets chairman/CEO Christopher Johnson said on Wednesday that he backs his players’ right to protest and will grab the tab if they’re fined.

The support from the sports executive comes on the heels of the NFL declaring a new policy on Wednesday regarding players who kneel during the National Anthem. The policy states that if a players protests, the league can fine a team rather than a player. Each NFL team owner will be responsible for deciding on a disciplinary action for any player taking a knee.
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As someone who knows a lot of military men who actually cared about this issue, the solution is perfect because in spite of the stereotyping that went on, for a lot it really WAS about disrespecting the flag and not about the right to protest.

It's fantastic that not standing there will get you noticed, and it will be talked about just as much, because that means that the point isn't lost, merely the disrespect to people who've literally went through hell for this country.

Note: Yes, there are idiots out there who were pretty much against it due to racism, but I'm seriously sick of the worst of the bunch representing the whole for the internet group-think. That's not how right-minded people think.
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We're probably going to see a lot of this from various people and groups. I doubt any players ends up actually paying a dime for protesting. Advocacy groups will just end up picking up the tabs for players who "violate" the new rule.

And just in case anyone was wondering, Christopher Johnson, like most of his family is not some liberal. His politics are known to be similar to Woody Johnson, his elder brother and Trump's Ambassador to the UK.

http://pix11.com/2018/05/23/jets-ceo...esting-report/
It doesn't seem like Christopher gives a flip about his brother Woody's politics which thankfully has kept him in the UK, far from the team.
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Meanwhile, the XFL just keeps rising due to the NFL's stupidity, the anthem bs continues..
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