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Old 04-30-2011, 06:30 PM   #1001
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So angry at the Cowboys for drafting an ILB and a RB in rounds 2 and 3, we need defensive line help and safety help. Someone give me the money to fly down to Dallas and give Jerrah a whupping.
We need help everywhere including RB and ILB. Are you really happy with our RB's and LB's. We have an almost 40 year old ILB and another one who turned 30. Our RB's aren't all that great despite people pumping them up to be that. You aren't going to cover everything in one draft and trying to depend on one draft is silly. This team need depth and youth at various positions. Let's at least wait first before judging a draft. It annoys me when people already decide on whether a draft is good or bad when none of the players picked have even put on the uniform yet.
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:05 PM   #1002
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David Arkin is not the OG I wanted in this draft, I wanted one who could replace Kyle Kosier or Leonard Davis right away. Going to throw away a pick like that, should've just traded down or something.
Better than what were doing 3 Nebraska players in a row. Lol diversify much?


Dwayne Harris is legit (at least the people I know at ECU say that )

Still WR for the Cowboys Special teams maybe

Yuck Redskins Evan Royster

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Old 04-30-2011, 09:27 PM   #1003
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I'd rather have the Stanz because from all the Bama games I watched while McElroy was serviceable he certainly wasn't winning them games. It was the insane amount of talent on the Oline, in the backfield and at the WR spots (and even the TE's) that did the work.
Very true. Stanzi was my first choice as well. We got him, and Powe too. Bannon was a good addition in the 7th too. He should make a good lead blocker for Charles and Jones. The Chiefs made me a happy fan this draft.

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Old 05-01-2011, 12:56 AM   #1004
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We need help everywhere including RB and ILB. Are you really happy with our RB's and LB's. We have an almost 40 year old ILB and another one who turned 30. Our RB's aren't all that great despite people pumping them up to be that. You aren't going to cover everything in one draft and trying to depend on one draft is silly. This team need depth and youth at various positions. Let's at least wait first before judging a draft. It annoys me when people already decide on whether a draft is good or bad when none of the players picked have even put on the uniform yet.
Well I was right about the 2009 draft, that draft class is a complete joke, even the 2008 class that only yielded Jones and Jenkins is better.

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Old 05-01-2011, 02:24 PM   #1005
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So the Draft is over the lockout is back on ... how did your team do...

I give the Lions a Strong C+/Weak B-

Fairley pick is good top 5 talent, Shoring up the D line will in effect help the Corners. Lions didnt address the Corner or Linebacker issue until the 5th round, Took another WR and RB in the 2nd round, didn't really address the OL, overall just seemed to stick to a formula of taking best player to possibly provide some depth, which I can understand as we are still feeling the effects of the Millen era 3 years later.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:09 PM   #1006
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So the Draft is over the lockout is back on ... how did your team do...

I give the Lions a Strong C+/Weak B-

Fairley pick is good top 5 talent, Shoring up the D line will in effect help the Corners. Lions didnt address the Corner or Linebacker issue until the 5th round, Took another WR and RB in the 2nd round, didn't really address the OL, overall just seemed to stick to a formula of taking best player to possibly provide some depth, which I can understand as we are still feeling the effects of the Millen era 3 years later.
I'd give the Ravens a B+/B. We addressed our needs at CB (2 drafted) and WR (2 drafted) and got a backup QB. I have no idea why they didn't even try to get a safety. Ed Reed isn't going to be there forever.

If Kindle doesn't end up getting back to his pro form then we will be in desperate need at LB in the next draft, as Ray Lewis will be 37-38 (not sure. I'd like him to at least get a chance to mentor the hopeful replacement a season or two.

And we drafted a RB. Waste of a pick IMO. We have Ray Rice, Willis McGahee, and (if they re-sign him) Le'Ron McClain.

All in all it could not have been much better.

As for the Lions (your team) I couldn't have liked the Fairley pick any more. He will be a beast along with Suh. That line is going to be scary and should take a lot of pressure off the CB's anyways. Get a good Safety and you'll be set on Defense. They just need a better line to protect Old Glass Shoulder.
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Old 05-01-2011, 06:04 PM   #1007
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too early to tell on the falcons, since so much is invested in julio...theres no C or B with this draft...when its all said and done, this is either an A+ or an F
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:18 PM   #1008
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Well I was right about the 2009 draft, that draft class is a complete joke, even the 2008 class that only yielded Jones and Jenkins is better.
That's nice. That doesn't mean you will be right about the 2011 draft class. No one can tell what this class is going to end up like until 3-4 years from now. So sit back and wait like the rest of us.
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:19 PM   #1009
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Well I was right about the 2009 draft, that draft class is a complete joke, even the 2008 class that only yielded Jones and Jenkins is better.
Dood WTF are you talking about the 2009 class wasn't a bust...

Brian Cushing
Darrius Hayward Bay
Michael Oher
Percy Harvin
Hakeem Nicks
Jeremy Maclin
Louis Delmas
LeSean McCoy
Mohamed Massaquoi
Mike Wallace
Austin Collie

May not have been as much as other years but yeah that's not a bad class
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:33 PM   #1010
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Try as I might I still can't figure out what Atlanta was thinking trading away the 27th, 59th and 124th this year plus their 1st and 4th round picks in 2012 for Julio Jones. This could turn out to be among the worst trades ever. Jones has a lot of potential but the knock on him that he drops the ball a lot is completely true. Unless he turns out to be a HOF'er he isn't worth anywhere close to what Atlanta gave up.

Hell, all Jacksonville gave up to get the #10 pick was the #16 pick and a 2nd round pick. I can't imagine why Atlanta needed to give up so much.

As for JaMarcus Jr.... err... Cam Newton, I still don't know what Carolina was thinking. Same with Tennessee overdrafting Jake Locker at #8 and Minnesota taking Ponder at #12. Teams are getting ridiculous with overdrafting QB's.

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Old 05-01-2011, 09:54 PM   #1011
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Dood WTF are you talking about the 2009 class wasn't a bust...

Brian Cushing
Darrius Hayward Bay
Michael Oher
Percy Harvin
Hakeem Nicks
Jeremy Maclin
Louis Delmas
LeSean McCoy
Mohamed Massaquoi
Mike Wallace
Austin Collie

May not have been as much as other years but yeah that's not a bad class
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the cowboys draft.
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I have to give the Vikings a B in the draft, the Vikings got great value in the later rounds and got the players I wanted in Brandon Burton, DeMarcus Love, and Brandon Fusco!
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I have to give the Vikings a B in the draft, the Vikings got great value in the later rounds and got the players I wanted in Brandon Burton, DeMarcus Love, and Brandon Fusco!
I like Minnesota's draft picks... except Ponder. I've seen many of his college games and I've never seen anything in him that would lead me to believe he'll be any better than an average NFL QB at best. He's a 2nd or 3rd round talent at best.
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Try as I might I still can't figure out what Atlanta was thinking trading away the 27th, 59th and 124th this year plus their 1st and 4th round picks in 2012 for Julio Jones. This could turn out to be among the worst trades ever. Jones has a lot of potential but the knock on him that he drops the ball a lot is completely true. Unless he turns out to be a HOF'er he isn't worth anywhere close to what Atlanta gave up.

Hell, all Jacksonville gave up to get the #10 pick was the #16 pick and a 2nd round pick. I can't imagine why Atlanta needed to give up so much.

As for JaMarcus Jr.... err... Cam Newton, I still don't know what Carolina was thinking. Same with Tennessee overdrafting Jake Locker at #8 and Minnesota taking Ponder at #12. Teams are getting ridiculous with overdrafting QB's.
Cam Newton is the next Michael Vick, Jake Locker is the next Mark Brunell and Christian Ponder is the next Quincy Carter.
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I like Minnesota's draft picks... except Ponder. I've seen many of his college games and I've never seen anything in him that would lead me to believe he'll be any better than an average NFL QB at best. He's a 2nd or 3rd round talent at best.
Yeah, they did try to trade down but there was no takers so they had to take Ponder before the Redskins would draft him at #16 but quarterback is a huge need for the Vikings so I am okay with it
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Yeah, they did try to trade down but there was no takers so they had to take Ponder before the Redskins would draft him at #16 but quarterback is a huge need for the Vikings so I am okay with it
Reaching in the draft is always a bad thing but as long as the Vikings still get a veteran to run the ship for a couple years, that guy can be the #1 and Webb can be the #2 and Ponder can learn in the wings as the #3. Not the best scenario but not a disaster either.
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I hope the collective bargaining includes a cap for rookies like they have in the NBA and NHL. I would hate to see Newton get stupid money and flame out like JaMarcus.

The Vikings hopefully will look for a veteran quarterback, not someone who has retired or on the verge of retiring. We need help in that area. Defense looks good with the additions but drafting Ponder was not what I expected.
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Odd draft for the Patriots. Last year they had the top scoring offense and a fairly poor defense, so it was a bit odd when the Patriots used 6 of their first 7 picks on offensive players and never really addressed the pass rush. I think Ras I-Dowling should be a good player, but cornerback was the least of their defensive concerns with Leigh Bodden returning from injury and Devin McCourty manning the other side. I didn't understand the Patriots drafting running backs with second and third round picks. I thought they needed a running back but I don't know when both guys will see the field when the Pats already have Green-Ellis and Woodhead. Marcus Cannon could be a great pick. He was projected to be a second round pick but he was recently diagnosed with non-Hogkin's lymphoma. Still, he is going through treatment that is expected to end in June and he could turn out to be a steal if everything goes well. I don't tend to criticize Patriots drafts because several picks that seemed questionable turned out great so we'll see how this ends up.
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I don't tend to criticize Patriots drafts because several picks that seemed questionable turned out great so we'll see how this ends up.
Yeah it really was an odd draft for them you would think they would have been picking guy's like Bowers and just seeing what sticks, but again guess they don't do it that way
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Yeah it really was an odd draft for them you would think they would have been picking guy's like Bowers and just seeing what sticks, but again guess they don't do it that way
The only guys who really fit the patriots mold for OLB were Ryan Kerrigan and Robert Quinn. They were both picked before the Patriots first first-round pick, and obviously the Patriots didn't feel like they were worth trading up for.

I was more surprised that they didn't draft a defensive lineman. There seemed to be quite a few who could have played end in the Patriots 3-4 scheme. I'm also surprised they didn't draft another offensive lineman in the first 3-4 rounds, particularly since Cannon isn't expected to play this season. While the Ras-I Dowling pick may seem odd, I kind of like it. They have been hampered in the postseason by their inability to cover big reciever's, Dowling's size is something the Patriots have not had at their CB position in a long time. If he works out it could pay huge dividends for them in the playoffs.

With FA not having taken place, this draft will undoubtedly be one of the oddest in NFL history. It will be interesting to see which FA agents end up where and whether or not the Draft may have influenced some possible destinations for the 200+ FAs.

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