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Old 11-18-2011, 02:43 PM   #10201
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Found it crazy that tebow missed wide open recvr’s for most of the game then decided to run for most of the final drive.

Obviously both he and his coach didn’t trust his arm to get it done.

Mediocre @ best is my assessment.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:47 PM   #10202
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Found it crazy that tebow missed wide open recvr’s for most of the game then decided to run for most of the final drive.

Obviously both he and his coach didn’t trust his arm to get it done.

Mediocre @ best is my assessment.
Should be a TE is my assessment, guess since they spent a first round pick on the guy they want to see if they can ride this horrible gravy train as long as possible.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:54 PM   #10203
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Tebow channeled so much religious energy that he converted Jets players right there on the field. Broncos and Jets players were in his prayer huddle after the game.

Rex must have ripped his players good for losing to Gator football.

Like Miami, they miss an easy play to nullify the chance at a drive. Miami with the onside kick and the Jets missing a safety.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:56 PM   #10204
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Tebow channeled so much religious energy that he converted Jets players right there on the field. Broncos and Jets players were in his prayer huddle after the game.

Rex must have ripped his players good for losing to Gator football.

Like Miami, they miss an easy play to nullify the chance at a drive. Miami with the onside kick and the Jets missing a safety.
Nick Folk makes those two FGs he missed and Sanchez doesn't throw that pick six and the Jets win, probably 19-10.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:04 PM   #10205
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Nick Folk makes those two FGs he missed and Sanchez doesn't throw that pick six and the Jets win, probably 19-10.
Let's be honest a 61 yarder is unlikely, but the other FG should have been made. Like I said if our QB isn't every teams MVP we would have won that game and a couple of others. He is absolutely killing this team, but the defense did allow Tebow to drive 95 yards to get that last minute TD. It was abysmal.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:07 PM   #10206
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Let's be honest a 61 yarder is unlikely, but the other FG should have been made. Like I said if our QB isn't every teams MVP we would have won that game and a couple of others. He is absolutely killing this team, but the defense did allow Tebow to drive 95 yards to get that last minute TD. It was abysmal.
Still convinced your defense is better than ours? Let's look at our last 2 games?
Cowboys - allowed 20 points total
Jets - allowed 54 points total
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:49 PM   #10207
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It's interesting to hear all these basher sof Tebow like he can't get better at throwing more accurately. HAHAHAHAHA He will learn to hit open WR, dont worry.

They'll be that 1 game where he'll just be throwing and mixing it up witht he Option and that team will be unstoppable. Not including they lost Knowshown moreno as well.

Champ Bailey still plays at a high level. Von Miller WILL be Defensive Rookie player of the year(Or patrick Peterson, close second)

This team had no faith in their QB period, and None fo the WR are divas. Brandon llyod knew if tebow played he wouldnt get the ball as much. He didnt want to run screens cause thats not his strongsuit.

With Decker and Thomas you Have a Viable Screen/deep threat combo.

If they got the Jets Interior D being pushed back for most that game then geez what they'll do to other teams.

Tebow isnt throwing strikes, but he played no better or no worse then Matt sanchez did last night. Plus he's got what most guys dont have, and thats clutch. You can't teach clutch. You either have it or you dont.

Donovan mcnabb good QB, No Clutch
Tony Romo, Pretty Good Qb, No Clutch

Every Great Qb I've seen has 1 thing, and thats clutch. He lead a guy too far on 1 play. So what? You think they dont have everyone trying to get that better. he'll be able to hit those throws, and once he does they'll make alot fo defenses unblanced.

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Old 11-18-2011, 03:52 PM   #10208
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The Wilmington News Journal reports Michael Vick (ribs) has been ruled out for Week 11 against the Giants.
Vick is missing from practice again on Friday. Vince Young will make his first start in almost a year after taking the first-team reps in mid-week practices. Look for more of a run-heavy approach than usual from coach Andy Reid. Vick's status for Week 12 versus the Patriots is up in the air.
Source - http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2107/michael-vick
Just rub some dirt on it, ya pansy.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:05 PM   #10209
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It's interesting to hear all these basher sof Tebow like he can't get better at throwing more accurately. HAHAHAHAHA He will learn to hit open WR, dont worry.

They'll be that 1 game where he'll just be throwing and mixing it up witht he Option and that team will be unstoppable. Not including they lost Knowshown moreno as well.

Champ Bailey still plays at a high level. Von Miller WILL be Defensive Rookie player of the year(Or patrick Peterson, close second)

This team had no faith in their QB period, and None fo the WR are divas. Brandon llyod knew if tebow played he wouldnt get the ball as much. He didnt want to run screens cause thats not his strongsuit.

With Decker and Thomas you Have a Viable Screen/deep threat combo.

If they got the Jets Interior D being pushed back for most that game then geez what they'll do to other teams.

Tebow isnt throwing strikes, but he played no better or no worse then Matt sanchez did last night. Plus he's got what most guys dont have, and thats clutch. You can't teach clutch. You either have it or you dont.

Donovan mcnabb good QB, No Clutch
Tony Romo, Pretty Good Qb, No Clutch

Every Great Qb I've seen has 1 thing, and thats clutch. He lead a guy too far on 1 play. So what? You think they dont have everyone trying to get that better. he'll be able to hit those throws, and once he does they'll make alot fo defenses unblanced.
Yeah okay clutch. Suck for 55 minutes for fake clutchness. He wouldn't need to be "clutch" if he took care of business earlier. The Jets gave the Broncos good starting field position for the entire first half and he managed three points.

Funny I don't remember Dilfer ever getting any credit during his winning streak. Why should Tebow?

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:10 PM   #10210
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Although amusing, the Religious banter surrounding Tebow isn't permissible under the forum rules, so please remain to discussions regarding the fact that he sucks, or the fact that you haven't realized that fact yet
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:17 PM   #10211
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the fact that you haven't realized that fact yet
This is an impossibility given the fact that he will never have that fact attached to him
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:19 PM   #10212
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Yeah okay clutch. Suck for 55 minutes for fake clutchness. He wouldn't need to be "clutch" if he took care of business earlier. The Jets gave the Broncos good starting field position for the entire first half and he managed three points.

Funny I don't remember Dilfer ever getting any credit during his winning streak. Why should Tebow?
Yeah I do agree, but you see dilfer now examining QB's like he was so Great LOL it's pretty funny.

Dilfer won a Ring, whether it was because of the defense he played with or not he didnt make mistakes and managed the game. Tebow is managing the game, not making any turnovers and his defense is keeping the game close so his clutch can come in.

I agree thought that eventually, he needs to throw an accurate pass. he doesnt change lead passes from TE to Wr, thus some of his major problems.

We want to say the jets blew this game but thats a top TIER DEFENSE he just ran on all game. and for 60+ yards on that final Drive. Thats not Luck to me, thats has to do with good gameplan. Jets were Tired at the end of that drive, it all came full circle.

I dont see anyone breathing down the 49ers Neck? their literally doin gthe same thing. Alex smith makes very few throws, and they run the ball 70% of the time.

But because thier 8-1 were buying into that scheme their running.
We should also buy into this scheme now that tebow has beat a legit team.

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:22 PM   #10213
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If it were up to me, I’d want my QB to play a good 60 min…..not 5 min.

Being clutch s/b a 2 or 3 time a year thing….not every week.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #10215
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:26 PM   #10216
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This Stat spread explains to me it all. Man if i can name how many QB's look terrible thier first year in the NFL....Man.

Yet we take a guy thats winning games, and stats arent terrible compared to other first few games in league.

Give him a Year and fully put all your chips in on him and see what you produce. if after 2 years he's nothing then move on.

He's still technically a rookie
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This Stat spread explains to me it all. Man if i can name how many QB's look terrible thier first year in the NFL....Man.

Yet we take a guy thats winning games, and stats arent terrible compared to other first few games in league.

Give him a Year and fully put all your chips in on him and see what you produce. if after 2 years he's nothing then move on.

He's still technically a rookie
That's the thing with the NFL today. Teams stick with their QB's for maybe a year or up to 3 seasons before moving on. They expect these QB's to develop and learn their systems faster than before writing them off.

With defenses faster than ever, it's very hard for some young QB's to develop to what they expected to be. Some just have raw talent, but Tebow has the desire to just win which I hate to admit.
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This Stat spread explains to me it all. Man if i can name how many QB's look terrible thier first year in the NFL....Man.

Yet we take a guy thats winning games, and stats arent terrible compared to other first few games in league.

Give him a Year and fully put all your chips in on him and see what you produce. if after 2 years he's nothing then move on.

He's still technically a rookie
Still technically a rookie? How so? We are deep into the 2011 season, he was drafted out of Florida in 2010. In that case, is the sensational Dez Bryant still technically a rookie since he didn't really play at OSU in 2009 and was hurt for a good part of last year?
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Yeah I do agree, but you see dilfer now examining QB's like he was so Great LOL it's pretty funny.
Terrible players always become analysts.

In Montreal for hockey, we have analysts such as Eric Fichaud, Marc Bureau, Georges Laraque, PJ Stock and Eric Ciccone. Of all those guys, only Laraque was actually a good player for a while.


On Tebow. Eli Manning was absolutely dreadful in his rookie year too. But he had fundamental passing skills. Year two he was vastly improved. Tebow is completely lost in the pocket and can't make any throws from it. By the way, this is his second season so why hasn't he bothered to improve his mechanics at all?

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:42 PM   #10220
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Terrible players always become analysts.

In Montreal for hockey, we have analysts such as Eric Fichaud, Marc Bureau, Georges Laraque, PJ Stock and Eric Ciccone. Of all those guys, only Laraque was actually a good player for a while.
it's hilarious cause Trent dilfer always talks about throwing motion, and etc. etc. and i always thinkt o myself...WOW if only u couldve taken your own advice.

Thats why the NFL Network is where iw atch my pregame, other than CBS they actually have proven players talking about other players.

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Still technically a rookie? How so? We are deep into the 2011 season, he was drafted out of Florida in 2010. In that case, is the sensational Dez Bryant still technically a rookie since he didn't really play at OSU in 2009 and was hurt for a good part of last year?
In Lue of His Games Played. He didnt play but 3 Games last season, adn he's played i think 5 games this season? 8 Total games. He probably never was with 1st team in practices befor as much as now. Im pretty sure preseason they didnt do too much with him as far a sgameplan to his strengths. He still playing his first ever games on the field.

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On Tebow. Eli Manning was absolutely dreadful in his rookie year too. But he had fundamental passing skills. Year two he was vastly improved. Tebow is completely lost in the pocket and can't make any throws from it. By the way, this is his second season so why hasn't he bothered to improve his mechanics at all?
True his mechanics arent great, neither is Phillip Rivers. Phillip Rivers is proven as a Decent QB though. That is like 8 Years deep in his career.

Trust me LOL, I feel like Tebow has alot fo work to do to better his game and i don't think he can maintain this same playing style forever.

What i am saying is that His Clutch, molded in with his Work Ethic may be able to help with his Play, especially when in the offseason all he will probably do is work on his arm.

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