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San Francisco 49ers 28 50.91%
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:49 PM   #119921
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No need to ask, one is a Lions fan and the other a Vikings fan. Rodgers could go 17-0 this year (breaking every single season passing record in the process), and when asked if he is the MVP…their response

As a Lions and football fan I find this statement to be offensive. However as a Lions fan I would take 2 great year with Rogers as Lions QB over 9 mediocre with Stafford. Whomever wins with this farce of a team will be the official GOAT QB surpassing Brady cause my team sucks!
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Old 06-01-2021, 04:42 PM   #119922
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100 DAYS....

Ive seen a few people mention how this is a bad wk1 matchup for DAL due to dak not 100% yet & breaking in new def.
Not to me.
This game was a probably a loss in any wk of the season.
Get it over with wk 1.
Then the sched gets gets easier after that with DAL being the fav in 3 of the next 4.

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Old 06-01-2021, 06:18 PM   #119923
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Personally, I never get too overly caught up on match ups cuz the ones that look good on paper are sometimes trash and the ones that folks overlook/don't even watch turn out to be exciting. Not to mention no one knows jack squat about how a team is gonna gel and perform given so much turnover from year to year in the NFL.
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Old 06-01-2021, 07:17 PM   #119924
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Am I the only one that thinks a 1st is too rich for Julio at this stage of his career?
The talk about Philly making a push worries me. I doubt we can afford him, I don't wanna give up that much to get him (we need our 2022 first-rounders), and IIRC hasn't he been hurt a lot in recent seasons?
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:15 PM   #119925
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As a Lions and football fan I find this statement to be offensive. However as a Lions fan I would take 2 great year with Rogers as Lions QB over 9 mediocre with Stafford. Whomever wins with this farce of a team will be the official GOAT QB surpassing Brady cause my team sucks!
Man, I hope your joking….but I’ll play along anyway. It’s only offensive if you didn’t think Rodgers deserved the MVP. And if so, who did?
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:36 PM   #119926
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We do? I know today being June 1st is a big day, but I haven't seen anything definitively saying Julio is gone Thursday.
ESPN Radio host was saying it'll likely happen Thursday. I know today is the last day before he, and hopefully Rodgers, can be traded.

I did read that ONE team offered a 1st for Julio...we shall see. He's been too injured to justify that.
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:49 PM   #119927
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Man, I hope your joking….but I’ll play along anyway. It’s only offensive if you didn’t think Rodgers deserved the MVP. And if so, who did?
Its offensive when you blanket statement all Lions fans into 1 category
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:52 PM   #119928
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ESPN Radio host was saying it'll likely happen Thursday. I know today is the last day before he, and hopefully Rodgers, can be traded.

I did read that ONE team offered a 1st for Julio...we shall see. He's been too injured to justify that.
Interesting if true. I watched Ian Rapaport on NFLN earlier today and he said that today is basically just the start of the window with the end of the window being when training camp activities start getting underway.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:06 PM   #119929
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Personally, I never get too overly caught up on match ups cuz the ones that look good on paper are sometimes trash and the ones that folks overlook/don't even watch turn out to be exciting. Not to mention no one knows jack squat about how a team is gonna gel and perform given so much turnover from year to year in the NFL.
Not sure what you mean.
Usually we have a good idea of whos a contender/pretender.
These were the odds august 2020 to win last yrs super bowl.

32. Jacksonville Jaguars (+20000)
31. Washington (+15000)
30. Cincinnati Bengals (+15000)
29. New York Giants (+8000)
28. Miami Dolphins (+8000)
27. New York Jets (+7000)
26. Carolina Panthers (+7000)
25. Detroit Lions (+6600)
24. Las Vegas Raiders (+6000)
23. Denver Broncos (+6000)
22. Arizona Cardinals (+5000)
21. Houston Texans (+4600)
20. Atlanta Falcons (+4600)
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19. Chicago Bears (+4000)
18. Cleveland Browns (+3400)
17. Los Angeles Chargers (+3200)
16. Buffalo Bills (+3200)
15. Tennessee Titans (+3000)
14. Los Angeles Rams (+2800)
13. Minnesota Vikings (+2500)
12. Green Bay Packers (+2500)
11. Pittsburgh Steelers (+2400)
10. Indianapolis Colts (+2400)
9. Seattle Seahawks (+2100)
8. Philadelphia Eagles (+1900)
7. New England Patriots (+1700)
6. Dallas Cowboys (+1700)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (+1500)
4. New Orleans Saints (+1200)
3. San Francisco 49ers (+900)
2. Baltimore Ravens (+700)
1. Kansas City Chiefs (+650)

WAS made it due to their division otherwise 13 of the 14 eventual playoff teams were ranked in the top 19.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:27 PM   #119930
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Its offensive when you blanket statement all Lions fans into 1 category
And what category is that? Where did I even remotely reply “all Lions fans”? I was referring to two specific people and I even put it in bold text. No need to create some fake outrage over a silly post. And to top it off, you respond by saying your team sucks lol. A lot worse than what I said if you ask me.
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:34 PM   #119931
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The talk about Philly making a push worries me. I doubt we can afford him, I don't wanna give up that much to get him (we need our 2022 first-rounders), and IIRC hasn't he been hurt a lot in recent seasons?
Julio has tended to get banged up his whole career to this point. He’s just an elite WR so the Falcons dealt with it.
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Old 06-02-2021, 12:59 PM   #119932
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I'd sure love some Julio in Detroit.

Not for the high price though.
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Old 06-02-2021, 02:48 PM   #119933
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7 wks from today cowboys open training camp.
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Old 06-02-2021, 03:44 PM   #119934
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Not sure what you mean.
Usually we have a good idea of whos a contender/pretender.
These were the odds august 2020 to win last yrs super bowl.

[Show spoiler]32. Jacksonville Jaguars (+20000)
31. Washington (+15000)
30. Cincinnati Bengals (+15000)
29. New York Giants (+8000)
28. Miami Dolphins (+8000)
27. New York Jets (+7000)
26. Carolina Panthers (+7000)
25. Detroit Lions (+6600)
24. Las Vegas Raiders (+6000)
23. Denver Broncos (+6000)
22. Arizona Cardinals (+5000)
21. Houston Texans (+4600)
20. Atlanta Falcons (+4600)
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19. Chicago Bears (+4000)
18. Cleveland Browns (+3400)
17. Los Angeles Chargers (+3200)
16. Buffalo Bills (+3200)
15. Tennessee Titans (+3000)
14. Los Angeles Rams (+2800)
13. Minnesota Vikings (+2500)
12. Green Bay Packers (+2500)
11. Pittsburgh Steelers (+2400)
10. Indianapolis Colts (+2400)
9. Seattle Seahawks (+2100)
8. Philadelphia Eagles (+1900)
7. New England Patriots (+1700)
6. Dallas Cowboys (+1700)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (+1500)
4. New Orleans Saints (+1200)
3. San Francisco 49ers (+900)
2. Baltimore Ravens (+700)
1. Kansas City Chiefs (+650)


WAS made it due to their division otherwise 13 of the 14 eventual playoff teams were ranked in the top 19.
I dunno, I'm of the belief that we don't know the contenders/pretenders until like 1/3 of the way through the season so I don't get too amped up about match ups on paper until things start getting sorted out a bit (other than seeing some of the league's top stars play other stars of course).

As far as last year, I get what you're saying (and truthfully without doing any research), I'm wondering if the pandemic skewed towards teams with overall solid organizations that had a plan in place as to how to navigate one of the most unpredictable offseasons ever.
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7 wks from today cowboys open training camp.
Yeah, aren't we like 99 days out now?
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Yeah, aren't we like 99 days out now?
Yep reg season.
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Cheers.
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I know my answer as to who the MVP should be but it won't matter as no one else would agree, judging by yours and others posts. I'm just a "Lions" fan.
I didn't know/remember that you are a Lions fan, makes no difference to me
Judging by my post? The one where I sincerely asked for an honest opinion because I genuinely didn't know who else was in the running, a valid candidate last season? That one
Whoever your candidate was and the reasons for it may have swayed me. Who knows?
But this comment coupled with calling Dragon's comment "offensive" (which came across as obvious joke, good natured ribbing due to you being a fan of a team that plays in Rodgers division) indicates there may be more going on here, which I don't know if you are trolling and committed to the bit or
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I didn't know/remember that you are a Lions fan, makes no difference to me
Judging by my post? The one where I sincerely asked for an honest opinion because I genuinely didn't know who else was in the running, a valid candidate last season? That one
Whoever your candidate was and the reasons for it may have swayed me. Who knows?
But this comment coupled with calling Dragon's comment "offensive" (which came across as obvious joke, good natured ribbing due to you being a fan of a team that plays in Rodgers division) indicates there may be more going on here, which I don't know if you are trolling and committed to the bit or
Wait. Hold up. It wasn’t just your comment I was referring to, it was a few others. Secondly, it was someone else that posted the “offensive” comment, that was not me. You’re getting us mixed up.

The MVP award can go to someone with the best stats, in which case, very hard to go against Rodgers, even if I hate the guy. There’s a few other QBs that did have comparable numbers. Look at Brady - for example, the guy is the oldest QB in the league, switches teams, and takes the team and wins a SB. I know the MVP is a regular season award, so the playoffs don’t make a difference, but the MVP could and perhaps should go to who truly is the most valuable player to a team. It’s not like Tampa had any recent success, so the change he made for the team is astonishing.

To answer your question, who should be the MVP? My vote would not be a QB, despite the award being 99% QB. I have to go with Derrick Henry here. From a statistical standpoint, he led the league in running statistics, and he also brings the most value for his team’s success. You take Henry out, and Tennessee has no offense.
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It’s so weird to think of a Dallas Cowboys quarterback flying under the radar, but it feels like Prescott is the best quarterback people don’t really talk about when it comes to the NFL’s best passers. This is probably due (in part) to a year of Cowboys fans saying Dak wasn’t that good because he didn’t sign a low-ball offer, now needing to pivot into championing him again.
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