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Old 01-02-2012, 01:09 AM   #14021
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Too many INTs, although that should've excused Philip Rivers as well.
At the time of selection, he had 2 less INTs and 10 more TDs than Eli.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:22 AM   #14022
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2nd draft pick!!! anybody want to trade?
I'm sure someone would be up for it!
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I guess RGIII will be gone by the time we pick...
What is your team again?

I would hope my Brownies would take a stab at him (he'd fit in with our attempt at what is supposed to be a West-Coast Offense)

I'm gonna have to look at some early draft ratings and see what's up....
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:33 AM   #14023
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Zero awareness by Romo of where he was, good job getting away from tackles though. 2 yards away from the 1st down and throws the ball anyways.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:45 AM   #14024
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I don't think Dallas is going to turn it around in the 2nd half down 21-0.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:52 AM   #14025
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I'm sure someone would be up for it!


What is your team again?

I would hope my Brownies would take a stab at him (he'd fit in with our attempt at what is supposed to be a West-Coast Offense)

I'm gonna have to look at some early draft ratings and see what's up....
A lot of the draft projections I'm seeing have Cleveland taking Griffin. The Browns are the highest pick team in real need of a starting QB, so it makes sense they'd take Griffin.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:57 AM   #14026
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I'm sure someone would be up for it!


What is your team again?

I would hope my Brownies would take a stab at him (he'd fit in with our attempt at what is supposed to be a West-Coast Offense)

I'm gonna have to look at some early draft ratings and see what's up....
His team is the Fins. If I'm not mistaken.

And if the Browns get RG3 and a speed receiver (assuming they keep Hillis or replace him) I think it's safe to say the AFC North is the toughest division in football. The defense is already pretty darn good and with RG3 and some kind of offensive weapon they should be able to put up points too.

(This is all assuming RG3 is better in the NFL than Cam Newton, which I totally believe he can be)
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:05 AM   #14027
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Guess I was a little off on the draft order. Here's the actual order. The 11th/12th picks will be determined by a coin flip.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/1...anapolis-colts

1. Indianapolis Colts, 2-14
2. St. Louis Rams, 2-14
3. Minnesota Vikings, 3-13
4. Cleveland Browns, 4-12
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4-12
6. Washington Redskins, 5-11
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 5-11
8. Carolina Panthers, 6-10
9. Miami Dolphins, 6-10
10. Buffalo Bills, 6-10
11. Seattle Seahawks, 7-9*
12. Kansas City Chiefs, 7-9*
13. Philadelphia Eagles, 8-8
14. New York Jets, 8-8
15. Arizona Cardinals, 8-8
16. San Diego Chargers, 8-8
17. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders, 8-8)
18. Chicago Bears, 8-8
19. Dallas Cowboys, 8-8 (unless Cowboys pull off a miracle comeback)
20. Tennessee Titans, 9-7
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:08 AM   #14028
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I'm sure someone would be up for it!


What is your team again?

I would hope my Brownies would take a stab at him (he'd fit in with our attempt at what is supposed to be a West-Coast Offense)

I'm gonna have to look at some early draft ratings and see what's up....
Don't forget that nice trade you guys pulled off in 2011, getting an amazing deal from Atlanta for the Julio Jones pick. You have Atlanta's 1st rounder in 2012 in addition to the #4 overall. You also have an extra 4th round pick from Atlanta in 2012.

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Old 01-02-2012, 02:21 AM   #14029
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And if the Browns get RG3 and a speed receiver (assuming they keep Hillis or replace him) I think it's safe to say the AFC North is the toughest division in football.
I think the AFC North already is the toughest division.... I just wish we weren't scraping the bottom of it year after year.

My fear is drafting RGIII, and having him basically refuse to play for us!

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Old 01-02-2012, 02:33 AM   #14030
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I think the AFC North already is the toughest division.... I just wish we weren't scraping the bottom of it year after year.

My fear is drafting RGIII, and having him basically refuse to play for us!

After the rejuvenation of the Panthers by Cam Newton I think you'll see a lot more players enjoy going to losing teams. Plus with the amount of picks in the first 4 round your Browns and the Bengals have this year their talent level should skyrocket.

And AFC North is definitely one of the toughest divisions. It seems like every year we send at least 2 teams to the playoffs.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:36 AM   #14031
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After the rejuvenation of the Panthers by Cam Newton I think you'll see a lot more players enjoy going to losing teams. Plus with the amount of picks in the first 4 round your Browns and the Bengals have this year their talent level should skyrocket.

And AFC North is definitely one of the toughest divisions. It seems like every year we send at least 2 teams to the playoffs.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:39 AM   #14032
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Stupid cowboys
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:41 AM   #14033
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Going from 1-15 to 6-10 is a good move forward. Alongside the fact that they were within 7 points in 5 of their losses. Once they get a few more play makers they will be a contender in the NFC South. If they were an AFC West team they would have probably made the playoffs, lol.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:57 AM   #14034
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From what I'm reading, The Rams and Vikings will probably look to trade down.

Browns have a lot of ammo to move up.

Only other question, is whether the Browns take a shot at the #1 pick to get Luck, or just move up to get RGIII

Personally, I would like to see us get RGIII, and obviously fix the right side of the O-line, and get an impact WR, and also a decent Linebacker.


I'm pretty worried actually, because Luck and RGIII are both "attainable" to us now, and I'm worried we won't make the moves necessary, and someone will trade up with St. Louis or Minnesota, and we'll stand-still, and find ourselves picking #4 with both Luck and RGIII off the board.

I wouldn't mind getting Kallil, but let's be honest here..... the Browns need a QB and there is a severe drop-off in talent from Luck and RGIII, to the rest of the incoming class.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:15 AM   #14035
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Jerry Jones has finally made me embarrassed to call myself a Cowboys fan. These "teams" he keeps putting together are truly awful.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:15 AM   #14036
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From what I'm reading, The Rams and Vikings will probably look to trade down.

Browns have a lot of ammo to move up.

Only other question, is whether the Browns take a shot at the #1 pick to get Luck, or just move up to get RGIII

Personally, I would like to see us get RGIII, and obviously fix the right side of the O-line, and get an impact WR, and also a decent Linebacker.


I'm pretty worried actually, because Luck and RGIII are both "attainable" to us now, and I'm worried we won't make the moves necessary, and someone will trade up with St. Louis or Minnesota, and we'll stand-still, and find ourselves picking #4 with both Luck and RGIII off the board.

I wouldn't mind getting Kallil, but let's be honest here..... the Browns need a QB and there is a severe drop-off in talent from Luck and RGIII, to the rest of the incoming class.
I can't imagine St. Louis trading down unless they really get an amazing offer. They badly need to improve the O-line and Kalil is easily the ins best player in the draft. I could see Minnesota trading down though.

Has Indy even made it clear they are 100% keeping that top pick? I just cannot see that working unless they actually do release Manning.
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I can't imagine St. Louis trading down unless they really get an amazing offer. They badly need to improve the O-line and Kalil is easily the ins best player in the draft. I could see Minnesota trading down though.

Has Indy even made it clear they are 100% keeping that top pick? I just cannot see that working unless they actually do release Manning.
Considering Manning is due something like $28 MILLION dollars before the draft I can't see them keeping him. Especially since they aren't even sure he'll be able to play, let alone at his usual elite level.

Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis are both going to be free agents and the Colts still don't really have a run game. They are going into rebuilding mode. The Jags/Titans/Texans all need to strike while they can.
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if i was Indy, i would trade away Manning. he's got a 28 million dollar BONUS coming his way in a few weeks and at his age and the direction the team is going, that's not money well spent imo.
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Considering Manning is due something like $28 MILLION dollars before the draft I can't see them keeping him. Especially since they aren't even sure he'll be able to play, let alone at his usual elite level.

Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis are both going to be free agents and the Colts still don't really have a run game. They are going into rebuilding mode. The Jags/Titans/Texans all need to strike while they can.
ha! my thoughts exactly
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if i was Indy, i would trade away Manning. he's got a 28 million dollar BONUS coming his way in a few weeks and at his age and the direction the team is going, that's not money well spent imo.
I wholeheartedly agree, they may not get much, but every little bit helps when rebuilding. and some team like the Jets or Dolphins might want him for the 2-3 seasons he may have left.
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