LG's new OLED TVs

[CHASLS2]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

If they are no longer noticeable in regular content then it's fine with me. Didn't buy this to stare at a solid white or black screen all day

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You have to understand i have a perfect working under 3000 hour 60VT60 i bought 3 years ago. Now if it blew up today i would go get a OLED fred.

[punisher]

Originally Posted by CHASLS2

You have to understand i have a perfect working under 3000 hour 60VT60 i bought 3 years ago. Now if it blew up today i would go get a OLED fred.

I would get a used plasma some where.....

[vinnie97]

OLED would be dead and buried if everyone was like that. The used plasma market would be a scalper's paradise.

[RockyIII]

Funny because as former plasma users who adopted oled seem pretty satisfied

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[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Funny because as former plasma users who adopted oled seem pretty satisfied

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People that had the Kuros and VT series Panasonic Plasmas, especially VT60s have got no real reason to upgrade just yet. HDR is in a bit of a war for standardisation and UHD content is slightly expensive and thin on the ground. The motion resolution is also not as good as Plasma is right now and I'm sure that will change, but not yet.

People with those top performing OLEDs have a great TV but if you look at the older LG models, there are more than a few teething issues left and there's not much choice other than LG right now. We need more manufacturers competing in the OLED space with their own unique flavour. Sony, Samsung and Panasonic are capable of top tier displays and have form. LG is doing really, really well and I applaud them but they're still behind the curve in some areas. Sony for example are know for some of the absolute best colour reproduction courtesy of their movie business experience whilst Samsung have an amazing motion resolution system on LCDs nobody seems to be able to touch and Panasonic I'm not 100% sure on which gen panel they used, but think it was a 2015 equivalent and showed themselves to be quite capable of outdoing LG in some areas albeit some will think it's negligible given what the price differential is.

[CHASLS2]

Originally Posted by punisher

I would get a used plasma some where.....

I have 2 back up plasma sets. But would like a new cheaper 55" OLED for kicks.

[CHASLS2]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Funny because as former plasma users who adopted oled seem pretty satisfied

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Just no need to mothball my vt60. I don't want 4K ray and i don't stream jean.

No plans to replace 5 of my BD players with UHD players and i still record with two S-VHS vcr's.

Plus there is nothing to see in 4k and can't really notice a diff in my bedroom being 11ft away from a 60" screen from 4K to 1080P lee.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by CHASLS2

Just no need to mothball my vt60. I don't want 4K ray and i don't stream jean.

No plans to replace 5 of my BD players with UHD players and i still record with two S-VHS vcr's.

Plus there is nothing to see in 4k and can't really notice a diff in my bedroom being 11ft away from a 60" screen from 4K to 1080P lee.

I have two projectors, Optoma HD37 and Vivitek H1186. Love 'em both and so does my missus
But the new Oled has its place too

[punisher]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Funny because as former plasma users who adopted oled seem pretty satisfied

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not true at all....once again you put your foot in your mouth Rocky

OLED provides great video when viewing special demos made specifically to showcase the panel. When it comes to realistic viewing see if you can find any store showing a football game, hockey, baseball, and even the upcoming Olympics on it. Not even and action / adventure movie is to be seen.

These were standard for plasmas on display and the present LCD/LED tv's. I would take one over an LCD for sure, but no way trade my plasma for an OLED at this stage of the game. Plasma owners like myself want a display I can use everyday for everything and not one good for continues play of a slow mo demo

motion= forbidden topic in OLED land.

[RockyIII]

Why are you posting in a Oled thread if you are not so thrilled about it?

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[punisher]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Why are you posting in a Oled thread if you are not so thrilled about it?

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At the VE shootouts I always asked the dirty questions about the panels. If I thought OLED was a good investment I would say so. Stores are there to sell and make money so they will tell you what you want to hear. You have to learn to be more hands on and ask the right questions before you buy. I am interested in owner's opinion and so far all I see is returns, exchanges, dead pixels, etc from those whose opinions I value and have shared experiences with over the last few years. Even VE admits motion is a problem and Robert is as honest as they come and the best when it comes to customer care.

Trust me , I want to see OLED be successful. It's beautiful but glitchy which is to be expected from any new technology.If you have to have the newest and have the extra cash, then go for it. That's how manufacturer's learn what needs to be fixed. I just cannot recommend spending 5-10k for this year's model.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by punisher

At the VE shootouts I always asked the dirty questions about the panels. If I thought OLED was a good investment I would say so. Stores are there to sell and make money so they will tell you what you want to hear. You have to learn to be more hands on and ask the right questions before you buy. I am interested in owner's opinion and so far all I see is returns, exchanges, dead pixels, etc from those whose opinions I value and have shared experiences with over the last few years. Even VE admits motion is a problem and Robert is as honest as they come and the best when it comes to customer care.

Trust me , I want to see OLED be successful. It's beautiful but glitchy which is to be expected from any new technology.If you have to have the newest and have the extra cash, then go for it. That's how manufacturer's learn what needs to be fixed. I just cannot recommend spending 5-10k for this year's model.

Well, we are called "early adopters" for a reason. Oled is not perfect by a long shot, but given what is available right now, what else would you rather use?What is the best next option other than the defunct plasmas? UHD LED panels with blacks that lit up like Christmas trees?
Since you know how to ask the right questions, can you give us a right answer?
Oled is not near perfect, but given what is available, what else would you rather use?

[RockyIII]

...Oh and by the way, at the Shootout the Oled G won over the Sony...Just saying...

[vinnie97]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

People that had the Kuros and VT series Panasonic Plasmas, especially VT60s have got no real reason to upgrade just yet. HDR is in a bit of a war for standardisation and UHD content is slightly expensive and thin on the ground. The motion resolution is also not as good as Plasma is right now and I'm sure that will change, but not yet.

Yea, I had to get rid of a ZT60 because of its IR susceptibility. Couldn't watch a day's worth of football without the scoreboard getting ingrained on the screen, which would take most of the next week to fade. Also, captions would cause a pink discoloration of the screen. Plasma wasn't designed to be that thin...

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Yea, I had to get rid of a ZT60 because of its IR susceptibility. Couldn't watch a day's worth of football without the scoreboard getting ingrained on the screen, which would take most of the next week to fade. Also, captions would cause a pink discoloration of the screen. Plasma wasn't designed to be that thin...

Did you try to apply a cloth over the screen to get rid of IR quicker?

[vinnie97]

Originally Posted by punisher

At the VE shootouts I always asked the dirty questions about the panels. If I thought OLED was a good investment I would say so. Stores are there to sell and make money so they will tell you what you want to hear. You have to learn to be more hands on and ask the right questions before you buy. I am interested in owner's opinion and so far all I see is returns, exchanges, dead pixels, etc from those whose opinions I value and have shared experiences with over the last few years. Even VE admits motion is a problem and Robert is as honest as they come and the best when it comes to customer care.

Trust me , I want to see OLED be successful. It's beautiful but glitchy which is to be expected from any new technology.If you have to have the newest and have the extra cash, then go for it. That's how manufacturer's learn what needs to be fixed. I just cannot recommend spending 5-10k for this year's model.

I am very particular. Even with the teething problems, I would do it all over again and again and again. Zero blacks overcome all the other minutiae. The motion is also not as horrible as you're making out.

[vinnie97]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Did you try to apply a cloth over the screen to get rid of IR quicker?

Sounds like snake oil...

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Even with the teething problems, I would do it all over again and again and again. The motion is not as horrible as you're making out.

For every issue they find on Oled I can find 3 issues we can find on LED panels. No technology is perfect but it's about making smart decisons and going with the least flawed technology avaialbale out there

[punisher]

never said get an LED.....couple of years ago at the VE shootout after Panny left the plasma game, all that was left was LCD's and the first gen OLED tv's. At the end of the night I asked the pro's..so which tv would you recommend and own..their answer..NONE.

Vinnie:sorry you had issues with the Panny ZT..I have some with my VT. Screen wipe clears out anything after a good hour or so. We should have kept our Kuros' I'll always regret selling it but had no room for 2 large screen sets. I'm sure I'll get into an OLED set somewhere down the road when others start to manufacture them. Leaving it up to LG to do the grunt work isn't fair but at this point I guess LG has the money to afford it. The others have too much money elsewhere or already took one on the chin in new technology investments.

[punisher]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

I am very particular. Even with the teething problems, I would do it all over again and again and again. Zero blacks overcome all the other minutiae. The motion is also not as horrible as you're making out.

good to hear your opinion on motion. Can you provide a little more about sports and action movies on your OLED.