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CYMBOL · 10-27-2009, 11:20 AM

I used some compressed air a few days before this started happening (didn't actually vacuum), but it was quickly cleaned out.

It is in an open tv stand - no front or backing, so it couldn't get much more ventilated. It shouldn't be an overheating issue - plus, it seems very intermittent. It went a few days after the intial 3 in a row - then happened again while playing music of all things. It's very cool in the house as well.

Yeah, I probably need to do a back up.

It's a 60 gig launch - I'd hate to see it go.

bhampton · 10-27-2009, 11:40 AM

Mine was also a launch day 60GB and I really hoped it would last another 40 years or so.

I was planning on the laser eventually needing to be replaced and sort of looking forward to doing that.

Lots of launch day 60GB are dying these days.

My warranty was 3 years till mid-Nov so I'm glad mine went now vs later.

There is a youtube video that shows a "fix" for the YLOD. Basically the fella takes his PS3 completely apart and then using a heat gun to reflow the solder on the CPU and GPU. If you pay attention you will hear him mention it's the second time he's doing this.

Those chips are BGA (Ball Grid Array) which means the chips have a array of tiny balls on the bottom usually a few thousandths of an inch apart. The board under then gets "printed" with little drop of solder and then the board goes through a special oven that does the soldering. I used to work in a plant that did this and it's a highly precise process. In short... if mine was out of warranty and had this problem, I would not be heating it up in hopes of fixing it.

Some people on Ebay sell a repair service where they take you PS3 and do just what the fella did in the video. It can work but chances are best that it won't work for long.

So... If you're out of warranty in my view you've got these choices...

1) Send to Sony for $150 exchange (I would do this one.)

2) Sell it "as is" and use whatever you get towards buying a new or used PS3

3) Try the home brew fix or pay someone to do this for you. (I would never try that.)

4) ...??? I don't know ... I can't imagine any choices that involve not having a PS3 once you've had one. Life is too short to live without a PS3.

=Brian

alphapyro · 10-27-2009, 02:54 PM

1.) Cry
2.) Suck it up
3.) Send it to Sony
4.) Cry
5.) Get it back from Sony
6.) Rejoice

bhampton · 10-28-2009, 01:02 PM

Hey,

My YLOD PS3 should be arriving for exchange in Texas today (yippee!). But it died so quickly that I never got a chance to de-activate the master account on it.

I logged into my my account on the playstation website and see an option to activate/deactivate PSN hardware but nothing for the PS3.

Does anyone know how I would let Sony know that I no longer have that PS3... Assuming they are going to send me a different unit which I think is a given.

-Brian

Marine Mike · 10-28-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

Hey,

My YLOD PS3 should be arriving for exchange in Texas today (yippee!). But it died so quickly that I never got a chance to de-activate the master account on it.

I logged into my my account on the playstation website and see an option to activate/deactivate PSN hardware but nothing for the PS3.

Does anyone know how I would let Sony know that I no longer have that PS3... Assuming they are going to send me a different unit which I think is a given.

-Brian

Call them.

bhampton · 10-28-2009, 02:04 PM

Ok.

I'll go look for the number .... maybe it's in the first post of this thread?

edit- 1-800-345-7669... Can't get to a person on that line yet though. (Turns out dialing 0 works.)

Edit 2 - Here's how it's done if you have your PS3 and it's only part way dead.

http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...p_sid=t2dmiyLj

Final Edit- Sony says to just wait till I'm all setup with the exchange unit and then call in with the service number from the exchange and they can de-activate the other machine at that time.

-Brian

CYMBOL · 10-28-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

Ok.

I'll go look for the number .... maybe it's in the first post of this thread?

edit- 1-800-345-7669... Can't get to a person on that line yet though. (Turns out dialing 0 works.)

Edit 2 - Here's how it's done if you have your PS3 and it's only part way dead.

http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...p_sid=t2dmiyLj

Final Edit- Sony says to just wait till I'm all setup with the exchange unit and then call in with the service number from the exchange and they can de-activate the other machine at that time.

-Brian

I was about to come and ask about this myself - I went to back up my game saves last night and got the red blinking light - but this time, it didn't come back up.

I really don't under stand about activating/de-activating the master account.

But it looks like you are saying, get your PS3 set up, get back online and then give them a call to get your accounts set back up?

Know I just have to remember all those passwords. . .

bhampton · 10-28-2009, 03:35 PM

Hope you didn't have a disc in there.

You may want to remove the hard drive and re-format it before sending it in for service. (Or you may not... I did just in case there was anything personal still on there... family photos, home movies, whatever.)

You can have 5 PS3's activated and so it's not likely a big deal but you have to de-activate it from the XMB. They said they could do it for me though but later after I have my account setup on the replacement unit.

-Brian

CYMBOL · 10-28-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

Hope you didn't have a disc in there.

You may want to remove the hard drive and re-format it before sending it in for service. (Or you may not... I did just in case there was anything personal still on there... family photos, home movies, whatever.)

You can have 5 PS3's activated and so it's not likely a big deal but you have to de-activate it from the XMB. They said they could do it for me though but later after I have my account setup on the replacement unit.

-Brian

Yeah, I had my burnout disc in there.

Hope I get it back.
Luckily, it wasn't a rented movie!

So, if I go get a new PS3 (I was thinking about picking up a slim) - since this is only my second PS3 ever - do I have to still get my old one deactivated?

Also, is there number 24/7 - or is this something you have to do on a weekday during work hours?

Sucks I have to find all my password info again. Hope I have it somewhere. Was there a password associated with the Master Account?

As for the hardrive - I'll probably put the old 60 gig back in and take out my 250 gig.

Right now, the plan is to just get a new slim, and then send in my 60 gig later and then use it in another room.

caliblue15 · 10-28-2009, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Yeah, I had my burnout disc in there.

Hope I get it back.
Luckily, it wasn't a rented movie!

So, if I go get a new PS3 (I was thinking about picking up a slim) - since this is only my second PS3 ever - do I have to still get my old one deactivated?

Also, is there number 24/7 - or is this something you have to do on a weekday during work hours?

Sucks I have to find all my password info again. Hope I have it somewhere. Was there a password associated with the Master Account?

As for the hardrive - I'll probably put the old 60 gig back in and take out my 250 gig.

Right now, the plan is to just get a new slim, and then send in my 60 gig later and then use it in another room.

Number isn't 24/7
Can't deactivate system without sending it in, and asking politely.
You can do a request of a lost password
You must take out the 250gb Hard drive if you want to send it in to Sony, because they just keep the HDD's
Your plan was my plan, now I have 2 ps3's, and can't figure out what to do with 2.

CYMBOL · 10-28-2009, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliblue15

Can't deactivate system without sending it in, and asking politely.
You can do a request of a lost password

So, if they have to deactivate my system - does that mean I can't get my old profile "CYMBOL" back until I send it in?

caliblue15 · 10-28-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

So, if they have to deactivate my system - does that mean I can't get my old profile "CYMBOL" back until I send it in?

you can use cymbol on up to 5 ps3's.

CYMBOL · 10-28-2009, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliblue15

you can use cymbol on up to 5 ps3's.

Do I have to deactivate anything to use "CYMBOL"? The whole deactivation part has me confused.

Sorry, I'm sure this is simple to understand.

caliblue15 · 10-28-2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Do I have to deactivate anything to use "CYMBOL"? The whole deactivation part has me confused.

Sorry, I'm sure this is simple to understand.

no. Cymbol can work on 5 PS3's, and 1 time for videos. I had to deacitvate mine because i have my PSN on more than 5 PS3's. (family, 3 mine, 1 fiance, 1 brother)

Shaazzaam · 10-29-2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Yeah, I had my burnout disc in there.

Hope I get it back.
Luckily, it wasn't a rented movie!

.

I read somewhere that you can perform an emergency eject, even if you can't start up & have the ylod (like I do right now

).

Turn off the ps3 at the back.
Hold down the eject button & switch it backon from the back (holding the eject button the whole time).

Your ps3 will run its fan at top speed to blow out the dust (a self clean) and eject any disks that are inside. I did this to eject a disk after getting the ylod.

Hope this helps you out.

CYMBOL · 10-30-2009, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaazzaam

I read somewhere that you can perform an emergency eject, even if you can't start up & have the ylod (like I do right now

).

Turn off the ps3 at the back.
Hold down the eject button & switch it backon from the back (holding the eject button the whole time).

Your ps3 will run its fan at top speed to blow out the dust (a self clean) and eject any disks that are inside. I did this to eject a disk after getting the ylod.

Hope this helps you out.

Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it - I'll give it a shot.

phlydude · 10-30-2009, 02:46 PM

this might only work if you have a 40GB model...it didn't work for the 20 or 60 - for those, surgery was required for disc extraction

CYMBOL · 10-31-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phlydude

this might only work if you have a 40GB model...it didn't work for the 20 or 60 - for those, surgery was required for disc extraction

Yeah, didn't work with my 60 gig - the disc is still stuck. They'll give it back to me - right?

I did get my 250 gig hard-drive out and installed the original 60 gig back in, so when it gets fixed - they'll wipe out my old data anyway.

So, the plan is:

Buy a new Slim 250 gig (supposed to be released this week for $350).
Swap the 250 gig hard drives and Bam! Got all my old data back.
Then, send in my original 60 gig, and when I get it back, put in the blank 250 gig left over from the swap with the Slim.

Does this plan sound doable? Or am I missing anything?

Also, I see that most of the new PS3s only have 2 USBs - what do you guys with only 2 USB ports do when playing games like Rock Band that need 3 or more?

silversnake · 10-31-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Also, I see that most of the new PS3s only have 2 USBs - what do you guys with only 2 USB ports do when playing games like Rock Band that need 3 or more?

I sent you a PM about the first part of your question implying that I don't think you can add an old HD to a new PS3 without formatting.

For your second question, my Rock Band 2 adapters have two usb ports on the side so I plug everything in there. All 3 adapters are only using 1 USB.

Hope this helps

Shaazzaam · 10-31-2009, 08:33 PM

Any USB hub can be used to create additional USB ports on the ps3. I got a 1 into 4 hub from The Source for $15.

10-28-2009, 02:04 PM	#1386
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:982 Blu-ray collection:2538 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Ok. I'll go look for the number .... maybe it's in the first post of this thread? edit- 1-800-345-7669... Can't get to a person on that line yet though. (Turns out dialing 0 works.) Edit 2 - Here's how it's done if you have your PS3 and it's only part way dead. http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...p_sid=t2dmiyLj Final Edit- Sony says to just wait till I'm all setup with the exchange unit and then call in with the service number from the exchange and they can de-activate the other machine at that time. -Brian Last edited by bhampton; 10-28-2009 at 02:27 PM.

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10-27-2009, 11:20 AM	#1381
CYMBOL Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2007 Location:I move around a lot. Blu-ray collection:8	I used some compressed air a few days before this started happening (didn't actually vacuum), but it was quickly cleaned out. It is in an open tv stand - no front or backing, so it couldn't get much more ventilated. It shouldn't be an overheating issue - plus, it seems very intermittent. It went a few days after the intial 3 in a row - then happened again while playing music of all things. It's very cool in the house as well. Yeah, I probably need to do a back up. It's a 60 gig launch - I'd hate to see it go.

10-27-2009, 11:40 AM	#1382
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:982 Blu-ray collection:2538 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Mine was also a launch day 60GB and I really hoped it would last another 40 years or so. I was planning on the laser eventually needing to be replaced and sort of looking forward to doing that. Lots of launch day 60GB are dying these days. My warranty was 3 years till mid-Nov so I'm glad mine went now vs later. There is a youtube video that shows a "fix" for the YLOD. Basically the fella takes his PS3 completely apart and then using a heat gun to reflow the solder on the CPU and GPU. If you pay attention you will hear him mention it's the second time he's doing this. Those chips are BGA (Ball Grid Array) which means the chips have a array of tiny balls on the bottom usually a few thousandths of an inch apart. The board under then gets "printed" with little drop of solder and then the board goes through a special oven that does the soldering. I used to work in a plant that did this and it's a highly precise process. In short... if mine was out of warranty and had this problem, I would not be heating it up in hopes of fixing it. Some people on Ebay sell a repair service where they take you PS3 and do just what the fella did in the video. It can work but chances are best that it won't work for long. So... If you're out of warranty in my view you've got these choices... 1) Send to Sony for $150 exchange (I would do this one.) 2) Sell it "as is" and use whatever you get towards buying a new or used PS3 3) Try the home brew fix or pay someone to do this for you. (I would never try that.) 4) ...??? I don't know ... I can't imagine any choices that involve not having a PS3 once you've had one. Life is too short to live without a PS3. =Brian

10-27-2009, 02:54 PM	#1383
alphapyro Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Kansas Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:14	1.) Cry 2.) Suck it up 3.) Send it to Sony 4.) Cry 5.) Get it back from Sony 6.) Rejoice

10-28-2009, 01:02 PM	#1384
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:982 Blu-ray collection:2538 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Hey, My YLOD PS3 should be arriving for exchange in Texas today (yippee!). But it died so quickly that I never got a chance to de-activate the master account on it. I logged into my my account on the playstation website and see an option to activate/deactivate PSN hardware but nothing for the PS3. Does anyone know how I would let Sony know that I no longer have that PS3... Assuming they are going to send me a different unit which I think is a given. -Brian

10-28-2009, 03:35 PM	#1388
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:982 Blu-ray collection:2538 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Hope you didn't have a disc in there. You may want to remove the hard drive and re-format it before sending it in for service. (Or you may not... I did just in case there was anything personal still on there... family photos, home movies, whatever.) You can have 5 PS3's activated and so it's not likely a big deal but you have to de-activate it from the XMB. They said they could do it for me though but later after I have my account setup on the replacement unit. -Brian

10-30-2009, 02:46 PM	#1397
phlydude Power Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Winter Garden, FL USA Playstation ID: phlydude Blu-ray collection:132 Trading Score:1	this might only work if you have a 40GB model...it didn't work for the 20 or 60 - for those, surgery was required for disc extraction

10-31-2009, 08:33 PM	#1400
Shaazzaam Junior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Toronto, Canada	Any USB hub can be used to create additional USB ports on the ps3. I got a 1 into 4 hub from The Source for $15.

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