Tips, Tricks and Fixes - Page 26 - Blu-ray Forum

Uxi · 06-04-2009, 05:01 AM

It's too bad you have to reformat with a new PS3. If it could be plug and play like on a PC, it would be much much better. Then you could have guys cloning their drives, though.

I'm mixed. $150 is painless and easy. I'm generally good with electronics and don't think this beyond me...

How to tell if it's the mobo/solder, power supply or drive?

Uxi · 06-04-2009, 05:03 AM

Sony can and has refused service for those that took the sticker off. Usually after getting it in and sending it back. Even for the fee.

Starting to feel a bit... chagrined for mocking the 360 so often when my Xenon is still going... even if it's just because I never use it.

WriteSimply · 06-04-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeApOn

-What exactly is 'reflowing', how does heating the board FIX the YLOD?

It's heating the solder so that it "flows" back to where it originally was connected to. If you do it right, it may fix your YLOD.

AGAIN, YLOD is a catch-all problem. It's a general failure. So reflowing may or may not fix your YLOD problem.

Quote:

-While watching some of the fix videos, they say to take off the rubber things on each side of the board. I only have the rubber things on one side of my board, 7 of them. Take these off?

You don't need to take them all off if your reflowing effort is not concentrated on those particular areas. Take the pads off only on the chips you want to reflow - RSX and Cell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeApOn

If you attempt to fix yourself and remove warranty sticker, does that affect your ability to send it to Sony for $150? Or by warranty, do they mean the 1 year warranty.

Others have opened and not able to fix their YLOD, and still manage to get SCEA to fix it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi

Sony can and has refused service for those that took the sticker off. Usually after getting it in and sending it back. Even for the fee.

This guys must've done something really wrong then to not get SCE to fix it.

It comes down to your decision: DIY or SCE. Once you made up your mind, just get it over with.

fuad

Marine Mike · 06-04-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi

Sony can and has refused service for those that took the sticker off. Usually after getting it in and sending it back. Even for the fee.

Starting to feel a bit... chagrined for mocking the 360 so often when my Xenon is still going... even if it's just because I never use it.

I haven't heard of a single case of this happening since I started to do the DIY threads.

I can only see Sony refusing to fix it would be if you remove some of the hardware components like the Power Supply or even Blu-ray drive. It would be safe to assume that they were removed to be sold.

Uxi · 06-04-2009, 03:34 PM

Know I saw at least two cases on the official PS boards. I'll see if I can find them, though I know they do alot of purging of especially negative threads

Marine Mike · 06-04-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi

Know I saw at least two cases on the official PS boards. I'll see if I can find them, though I know they do alot of purging of especially negative threads

Even if you do find 2 cases on a different forum, I cannot verify the legitamency of it as no one here has had an issue.

WeApOn · 06-04-2009, 03:43 PM

Thanks for the info guys, I'm gonna try to do it myself on Friday. It took me awhile to take the whole system apart, and had to stop at midnight. I'm gonna do the hard parts Friday.

As far as data is concerned, there is NO WAY to get your data off the HD unless you plug back into the original system? I have some really important stuff that exists ONLY on that HD.. I'd really like to get it off there.

Marine Mike · 06-04-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeApOn

Thanks for the info guys, I'm gonna try to do it myself on Friday. It took me awhile to take the whole system apart, and had to stop at midnight. I'm gonna do the hard parts Friday.

As far as data is concerned, there is NO WAY to get your data off the HD unless you plug back into the original system? I have some really important stuff that exists ONLY on that HD.. I'd really like to get it off there.

I wouldn't say that there is 'no way' as much as no one here knows how.

Uxi · 06-04-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Even if you do find 2 cases on a different forum, I cannot verify the legitamency of it as no one here has had an issue.

Sure. I couldn't even verify it if someone on this forum made a claim. I do think we're a far smaller subset of PS3 users here than on the official forums, though.

WeApOn · 06-04-2009, 05:46 PM

After getting YLOD, are there any telltale signs that you could have a bad power supply, as opposed to an overheating problem?

Marine Mike · 06-04-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeApOn

After getting YLOD, are there any telltale signs that you could have a bad power supply, as opposed to an overheating problem?

For a bad power supply, it won't turn back on after doing the reflow.

WeApOn · 06-04-2009, 07:37 PM

But it will show the same yellow light?

Marine Mike · 06-04-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeApOn

But it will show the same yellow light?

Actually for the bad power supply typically the machine gives you no light.

WeApOn · 06-04-2009, 07:46 PM

Gotcha, so it probably just needs a reflow, thanks!

I was also told to "use liquid flux". What does this mean exactly? Where am I supposed to apply liquid flux, and where could I buy some?

Anyone tried using this technique?(If I recall Writesimply may have mentioned this previously)

blitz6speed · 06-04-2009, 10:56 PM

Want to give a big thanks for these guides.

I brought a YLOD Ps3 back from death, and swapped out the bad laser on my motorstorm 80 gig ps3 and its working flawlessly. Really, once you take apart the PS3 a few times, its insanely easy to figure out how to put it back together. When i took out the cover on the motorstorm 80 gig ps3, the fan became loud from that point on. So i tore it down to the board, and re-did the thermal paste to Arctic Silver 5 and ive had it folding @ home for hours and it never gets above "dead silent" fan speed. Very nice.

I suggest anyone whos fan is abnormally loud to take apart the PS3 and put on some arctic silver 5.

Uxi · 06-04-2009, 11:26 PM

Hmm back to thinking I should maybe just fix this myself. My only real question is on the heat gun part. Guess I'll need a digital model that is variable rather than the most common...

The PDF instructions say to set for 350, but most of the guns I'm seeing on Home Depot's page, for example, only do 750 or 1000 degrees, which is way hotter than the 350 specified. I see a Ryobi that does 200°, 500°, 800°, and 1100°... Would this one be good?

Milwaukee Digital Heat Gun Model 3300

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...egoryID=527280

WeApOn · 06-05-2009, 12:18 AM

I think thats the same kind my friend has(the Milwaukee one). We're going to try it tomorrow night. I've actually heard that people have better results heating it higher and longer, so maybe 800 wouldn't be too bad. Careful, though.

blitz6speed · 06-05-2009, 01:35 AM

I used 800 degrees to get the YLOD fixed. 200 on both sides of the board at first, 500 across the top, then 800 on cpu/gpu 30 seconda a piece in a swirl motion, 2 times per chip, then 15 seconds per chip once, then cooled it down to 500 on both chips for 10 seconds, then 200 on the chips and then the rest of the board. Let sit for 25-30 min. Then apply nice thin coat of arctic silver 5 all over the gpu/cpu and put it back together.

Worked awesomely.

Wreck · 06-05-2009, 01:43 AM

Well, I just bought the service for the YLOD from the ebay user JD thats in the OP.

I'll let you guys know how it goes ... He had some very nice feedback in regards to fixing PS3's.

Alot of people even were quoted as to saying "Sony shouldnt even be an option, JD should be their first choice!"

With shipping its 89.99 then however much it cost me to ship to him. (he's based in Michigan)

So wish me luck!

Slec · 06-05-2009, 01:45 AM

best of luck. earlier in the thread one of the guys had a great experience with this route. hope yours is the same.

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06-04-2009, 05:01 AM	#501
Uxi Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:9	It's too bad you have to reformat with a new PS3. If it could be plug and play like on a PC, it would be much much better. Then you could have guys cloning their drives, though. I'm mixed. $150 is painless and easy. I'm generally good with electronics and don't think this beyond me... How to tell if it's the mobo/solder, power supply or drive?

06-04-2009, 05:03 AM	#502
Uxi Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:9	Sony can and has refused service for those that took the sticker off. Usually after getting it in and sending it back. Even for the fee. Starting to feel a bit... chagrined for mocking the 360 so often when my Xenon is still going... even if it's just because I never use it.

06-04-2009, 03:34 PM	#505
Uxi Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:9	Know I saw at least two cases on the official PS boards. I'll see if I can find them, though I know they do alot of purging of especially negative threads

06-04-2009, 03:43 PM	#507
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	Thanks for the info guys, I'm gonna try to do it myself on Friday. It took me awhile to take the whole system apart, and had to stop at midnight. I'm gonna do the hard parts Friday. As far as data is concerned, there is NO WAY to get your data off the HD unless you plug back into the original system? I have some really important stuff that exists ONLY on that HD.. I'd really like to get it off there.

06-04-2009, 05:46 PM	#510
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	After getting YLOD, are there any telltale signs that you could have a bad power supply, as opposed to an overheating problem?

06-04-2009, 07:37 PM	#512
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	But it will show the same yellow light?

06-04-2009, 07:46 PM	#514
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	Gotcha, so it probably just needs a reflow, thanks! I was also told to "use liquid flux". What does this mean exactly? Where am I supposed to apply liquid flux, and where could I buy some? Anyone tried using this technique?(If I recall Writesimply may have mentioned this previously)

06-04-2009, 10:56 PM	#515
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	Want to give a big thanks for these guides. I brought a YLOD Ps3 back from death, and swapped out the bad laser on my motorstorm 80 gig ps3 and its working flawlessly. Really, once you take apart the PS3 a few times, its insanely easy to figure out how to put it back together. When i took out the cover on the motorstorm 80 gig ps3, the fan became loud from that point on. So i tore it down to the board, and re-did the thermal paste to Arctic Silver 5 and ive had it folding @ home for hours and it never gets above "dead silent" fan speed. Very nice. I suggest anyone whos fan is abnormally loud to take apart the PS3 and put on some arctic silver 5.

06-04-2009, 11:26 PM	#516
Uxi Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:9	Hmm back to thinking I should maybe just fix this myself. My only real question is on the heat gun part. Guess I'll need a digital model that is variable rather than the most common... The PDF instructions say to set for 350, but most of the guns I'm seeing on Home Depot's page, for example, only do 750 or 1000 degrees, which is way hotter than the 350 specified. I see a Ryobi that does 200°, 500°, 800°, and 1100°... Would this one be good? Milwaukee Digital Heat Gun Model 3300 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...egoryID=527280

06-05-2009, 12:18 AM	#517
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	I think thats the same kind my friend has(the Milwaukee one). We're going to try it tomorrow night. I've actually heard that people have better results heating it higher and longer, so maybe 800 wouldn't be too bad. Careful, though.

06-05-2009, 01:35 AM	#518
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	I used 800 degrees to get the YLOD fixed. 200 on both sides of the board at first, 500 across the top, then 800 on cpu/gpu 30 seconda a piece in a swirl motion, 2 times per chip, then 15 seconds per chip once, then cooled it down to 500 on both chips for 10 seconds, then 200 on the chips and then the rest of the board. Let sit for 25-30 min. Then apply nice thin coat of arctic silver 5 all over the gpu/cpu and put it back together. Worked awesomely.

06-05-2009, 01:43 AM	#519
Wreck Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2008 Location:H-town To Indy PSNetwork: HERETOWRECK Trophy Level: (12) Blu-ray collection:249 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:58	Well, I just bought the service for the YLOD from the ebay user JD thats in the OP. I'll let you guys know how it goes ... He had some very nice feedback in regards to fixing PS3's. Alot of people even were quoted as to saying "Sony shouldnt even be an option, JD should be their first choice!" With shipping its 89.99 then however much it cost me to ship to him. (he's based in Michigan) So wish me luck!

06-05-2009, 01:45 AM	#520
Slec Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Baltimore, MD Home Theater Gallery:29 Blu-ray collection:241 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:30	best of luck. earlier in the thread one of the guys had a great experience with this route. hope yours is the same.

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