Ghostbusters 4K UHD (1984)

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

You are right about the grain. The grain looks more defined on the UHD version. I had the mouse over(out) part mixed up. Unbelievable that the details are so similar that I could not even tell which was which when I made that mistake! I see much bigger differences between titles that were released before on bluray and then get new 4k remasters on bluray then between the MI4k and UHD!

Her hair....

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

You are right about the grain. The grain looks more defined on the UHD version. I had the mouse over(out) part mixed up. Unbelievable that the details are so similar that I could not even tell which was which when I made that mistake! I see much bigger differences between titles that were released before on bluray and then get new 4k remasters on bluray then between the MI4k and UHD!

I said this many times: the source transfer/master is the most important thing for video quality. DVD transfers were poor quality (telecines) as well as the first Blu-rays that often came from HD telecines

But now going from BD to UHD BD the source transfer, usually a 2K or 4K film scan, is exactly the same (except for the unnecessary HDR pass). What changes is the output format, not the source....

To me this UHD format doesn't make a lot of sense for 35mm catalog titles, unless that high-quality transfer/master is exclusive to UHD BD but I don't think that will ever happen...

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

I said this many times: the source transfer/master is the most important thing for video quality. DVD transfers were poor quality (telecines) as well as the first Blu-rays that often came from HD telecines

But now going from BD to UHD BD the source transfer, usually a 2K or 4K film scan, is exactly the same (except for the unnecessary HDR pass). What changes is the output format, not the source....

To me this UHD format doesn't make a lot of sense for 35mm catalog titles, unless that high-quality transfer/master is exclusive to UHD BD but I don't think that will ever happen...

Wot?????

This very master was made for 4k formats.....

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Wot?????

This very master was made for 4k formats.....

What do you mean? You don't think it's the same transfer? Of course the original transfer is 4K and was downscaled to 1080p for BD but it's still the same just down-rez

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

You are right about the grain. The grain looks more defined on the UHD version.

Not really, apart from the compression the definition is pretty much the same.

Here is a much better comparison showing the difference in grain definition between HD and UHD. That Ghostbusters comparison just looks like it's comparing two BDs.

[42041]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Quick one for now http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176354

This can't be an accurate capture, can it?
That doesn't look like 4K at all....

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Not really, apart from the compression the definition is pretty much the same.

Here is a much better comparison showing the difference in grain definition between HD and UHD. That Ghostbusters comparison just looks like it's comparing two BDs.

True but if i go back 50 cm from my PC monitor I no longer see the difference in grain definition

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by 42041

This can't be an accurate capture, can it?
That doesn't look like 4K at all....

Rarely does the movie look like real 4k (tho Ghostbusters 2 does at times). But keep in mind, this scene in the movie is the most aweful looking scene, nothing can magically make this particular scene look good.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

True but if i go back 50 cm from my PC monitor I no longer see the difference in grain definition

good thing these UHD movies are watched on monitors MUCH larger than a PC monitor

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by ray0414

good thing these UHD movies are watched on monitors MUCH larger than a PC monitor

Sure, they are meant to be watched on HUGE screens

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Do the UV codes redeem in UHD? I don't believe they do just want to make sure. If they don't I'll give them away.

[dvdmike]

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176434

[F34R]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

Do the UV codes redeem in UHD? I don't believe they do just want to make sure. If they don't I'll give them away.

Mine didn't. I would just hold off for now. Might change in the future.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

Do the UV codes redeem in UHD? I don't believe they do just want to make sure. If they don't I'll give them away.

Supposedly they redeem in UHD HDR only on Sony's Ultra app which is exclusive to Sony TV's.

[dvdmike]

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[batman2000]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176496

so if i'm looking at this right it's sharper that the film stock it's from?

[infiniteCR]

That screenshot looks many times more like I would guess. The 4k has much more detail than the HD. So this proves real 4k can greatly improve the detail in these older films for me.


Thank you Mike for the quality comparison!

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by batman2000

so if i'm looking at this right it's sharper that the film stock it's from?

No. It's that a 4k scan from the OCN can look better than old 35mm prints.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176496

is the 1080p version from the 1st blu ray or the 4k remaster blu ray?


either way, this proves that not every scene in a movie will see a big bump in sharpness or resolution. the 1st screen shot had almost no difference at all besides noise/grain but the 2nd is night and day. A good example is the martian, there are some scenes that look much sharper and other scenes look unchanged.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by ray0414

is the 1080p version from the 1st blu ray or the 4k remaster blu ray?


either way, this proves that not every scene in a movie will see a big bump in sharpness or resolution. the 1st screen shot had almost no difference at all besides noise/grain but the 2nd is night and day. A good example is the martian, there are some scenes that look much sharper and other scenes look unchanged.

The 1080p Blu-ray is the 4k mastered disc.