The Terminator (1984) (in red case) May 5, 2015

[tylergfoster]

Certainly something feminine could never be bad-ass, muscular, or menacing, which are all synonyms for the word "manly."

I'll get it because I never picked up a previous version of the remastered Blu-ray, for the red case and the Digital HD copy.

[Pizzamorg]

Feminine?! I shudder to think of the kind of women you associate with.

[Geoff D]

Man, I hate them transparent Robo-women on Blu-ray covers.

[Pieter V]

These re-re-re-re-re-releases getting too much attention. Time to move on and get Terminator 2 right.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

These re-re-re-re-re-releases getting too much attention. Time to move on and get Terminator 2 right.

Teal ain't right

[Vriess]

Originally Posted by Nick666

I dont like it cause there's nothin' bad-ass or muscular or manly or menacing about it, it looks a bit feminine to me, even the face .

Huh? I get not liking the art but what about that says "feminine" to you?

Both of these releases have had questionable at best artwork, I guess that's what custom covers are for.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Birdman had an eco case.

They're still releasing faceplates, btw.

That's blasphemous. We need to stand up to this eco-case garbage.

[Vriess]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Teal ain't right

I see your point but I'd rather watch a great looking version overseen by JC with some slight color changes than a lesser version with colors exactly like the theatrical.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Vriess

I see your point but I'd rather watch a great looking version overseen by JC with some slight color changes than a lesser version with colors exactly like the theatrical.

Can't we have a great looking original version, no compromises

[Vriess]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Can't we have a great looking original version, no compromises

Apparently not What Jimmy wants Jimmy gets

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Vriess

Apparently not What Jimmy wants Jimmy gets

The internet will fix it

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Vriess

I see your point but I'd rather watch a great looking version overseen by JC with some slight color changes than a lesser version with colors exactly like the theatrical.

Torsten Kaiser seems to think the new disc is "pretty darn good" although not perfect as there are some global teal changes that shouldn't be there, but he goes on to say the disc is far better than previous versions.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...198940&page=43

To be specific on THE TERMINATOR the cyan / bluish tones WERE very much part of the color palette, which was - on the original prints - in the DeLuxe process. But as opposed to the BD - on 35mm these were mostly COLOR / SHADE SPECIFIC and not as global as seen in many shots. However: note that the color re-timing, ideally, is done shot by shot and a simple setting of that LUT is not just applied to all shots with a single touch of a button.

In some shots of the new BD, the emphasis (saturation) on cyanish tones is a bit too much (but specifically night scenes were lit in cyan[!] so it has to be there), while in most, though not perfect for the reasons I stated the timing made are still pretty darn good, and on yet on few others again photochemical effects such as in the discotheque are (yet again) are, unfortunately, not fully realized to the original portential (see below).

Bottom line: DIs can be made cheaper, different, more precise in many ways, yes. Specific photochemical attributes, however, can still not be achieved digitally on many levels. That beauty is tied only to film. Note also that color processing on both analogue and digital fronts is also a matter of choice by the colorist and/or the people who ordered/supervised it. Before finalizing production - and after. The latter being the more complicated. A lot of people here would not believe how many films they have seen and grown to love in this specific "color palette" that are - in truth and reality - ABSOLUTELY WRONG in color representation/registration. Welcome to my world.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Torsten Kaiser seems to think the new disc is "pretty darn good" although not perfect as there are some global teal changes that shouldn't be there, but he goes on to say the disc is far better than previous versions.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...198940&page=43

To be specific on THE TERMINATOR the cyan / bluish tones WERE very much part of the color palette, which was - on the original prints - in the DeLuxe process. But as opposed to the BD - on 35mm these were mostly COLOR / SHADE SPECIFIC and not as global as seen in many shots. However: note that the color re-timing, ideally, is done shot by shot and a simple setting of that LUT is not just applied to all shots with a single touch of a button.

In some shots of the new BD, the emphasis (saturation) on cyanish tones is a bit too much (but specifically night scenes were lit in cyan[!] so it has to be there), while in most, though not perfect for the reasons I stated the timing made are still pretty darn good, and on yet on few others again photochemical effects such as in the discotheque are (yet again) are, unfortunately, not fully realized to the original portential (see below).

Bottom line: DIs can be made cheaper, different, more precise in many ways, yes. Specific photochemical attributes, however, can still not be achieved digitally on many levels. That beauty is tied only to film. Note also that color processing on both analogue and digital fronts is also a matter of choice by the colorist and/or the people who ordered/supervised it. Before finalizing production - and after. The latter being the more complicated. A lot of people here would not believe how many films they have seen and grown to love in this specific "color palette" that are - in truth and reality - ABSOLUTELY WRONG in color representation/registration. Welcome to my world.

That the issue with it, it's a hack job it was done so poorly

[Randall Flagg]

Cover is complete garbage.

[StingingVelvet]

Oh yay a new thread for color timing debates!

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

The internet will fix it

I realize anyone can re-color it as they please, but if not using a previous home release what do they base the re-colorization on?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Oh yay a new thread for color timing debates!

Blu.ray.com is too blue, needs more teal.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I realize anyone can re-color it as they please, but if not using a previous home release what do they base the re-colorization on?

They use the older versions cross reference with 35mm cells and more.
It's not a simple hack job when it's done right.

I don't mind a recolor if it's done right, more so as it can be fixed

[Heapashifter]

The red case, different cover, and digital copy has me interested.

I'm pretty sure I already have 2 copies of this on bluray too.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Blu.ray.com is too blue, needs more teal.

Teal is a shade of blue.