List of 4K film transfers on Blu-ray shot on film (non-digitally shot)

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I LOVE anamorphic, don't get me wrongo, but I know of a veteran VFX supervisor who greatly prefers S35 for its sheer sharpness.

How long ago was that though?


Also digital everything from negative to final output seems to have mitigated any concern about possible loss of sharpness, not to mention Panavision's latest lenses.


More & more filmmakers have embraced anamorphic to where it's used in FLAT 1.78/1.85 shows like the aformentioned True Detective S2 and Scott Pilgrim, commercials and music videos.


The new Bad Blood Taylor Swift video also appears to be anamorphic.

[Geoff D]

Dude, they've been using anamorphic for TV adverts over here for years, never mind anything else - you don't have to sell me on it!

That's a contemporary opinion from said VFX supervisor by the way, he still prefers the overt sharpness and detail of S35 compared to the smooth look of anamorphic.

[mttmax]

Didn't know if this has been asked before, I just noticed some reviews of Criterion releases on this list stated that the film was scanned at 4K but finished at HD/2K, among such films are Ivan's Childhood, An Autumn Afternoon, 3:10 to Yuma (1957), and Ace in the Hole. Should they be qualified as 4K transfers as well?

[Pieter V]

nouvelle copie intégralement restaurée à partir d'un master 4k

[L'armée des ombres]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Added

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Upcoming in theaters, but no database link yet: Aloha



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1243974/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

http://www.sony.nl/pro/article/digit...ies-aloha-2015

Please add this one as well. There is no cover in the database link yet. So it's already in the First Post.

Also upcoming: Bridge of Spies:

Sound Mix Datasat | Dolby Digital
Color Color
Aspect Ratio 2.35 : 1
Camera Arricam ST, Hawk V-Lite Vintage '74 and V-Plus Lenses
Negative Format 35 mm (Kodak)
Cinematographic Process Digital Intermediate (4K) (master format)
Hawk Scope (anamorphic) (source format)
Printed Film Format 35 mm
D-Cinema

http://digitalcinema.bydeluxe.com/si...-_WK_24_US.pdf

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3682448/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

The trailer is in 4K as well.

BridgeOfSpies_TLR‐1_F_EN‐XX_US‐GB_51‐HI_4K_DI_20150603_TDC_IOP_OV

[HeavyHitter]

I picked up the 25th Ann of Big last night from Best Buy. Is it just the Japanese version that stems from 4K, or also the U.S.?

[L'armée des ombres]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I picked up the 25th Ann of Big last night from Best Buy. Is it just the Japanese version that stems from 4K, or also the U.S.?

I would think both since they were released around the same time.
I have the japanese one in the list because it's confirmed
As we know 4K shit in, 4K shit out

[L'armée des ombres]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Please add this one as well. There is no cover in the database link yet. So it's already in the First Post.

Also upcoming: Bridge of Spies:





http://digitalcinema.bydeluxe.com/si...-_WK_24_US.pdf

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3682448/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

The trailer is in 4K as well.

Let's at least wait until they are announced on Blu and get a release date

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by L'armée des ombres

Let's at least wait until they are announced on Blu and get a release date

Yup, basing the info off of a trailer DCP is just inducing.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Yup, basing the info off of a trailer DCP is just inducing.

I don't see why this is so strange? Till this day, all the 4K trailers were finished 4K movies in the end.

That weekly .pdf only contains 1 or 2 4K trailers. Most of the time the same ones. The rest is 2K. The cheap bastards from Hollywood still prefer a cheaper and less demanding 2K finish.

4K movies are getting 4K trailers.

Trailers are created by the available workflow. Or do you think; 2K movies get 4K trailers, and they specially invest money and time to create greater stuff, than the master? I don't think so, think about it.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Trailers are created by the available workflow. Or do you think; 2K movies get 4K trailers, and they specially invest money and time to create greater stuff, than the master? I don't think so, think about it.

It can happen, especially if a trailer has footage that is not used in the final film itself.

Anyway, several lists have had incorrect updates due to people getting overexcited about tech specs. Let's wait until we have real information.

[Dragun]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Seeing as no flat format is actually meant to project the entire "full-frame" 4-perf 35mm ap then mentioning that is a bit disingenuous, and as for anamorphic, it's using more height of the negative for sure, but that advantage is negated somewhat by the inherent distortion and other foibles of the anamorphic glass. I LOVE anamorphic, don't get me wrongo, but I know of a veteran VFX supervisor who greatly prefers S35 for its sheer sharpness.

Back in the pre-DI days anamorphic films did look sharper and more fine-grained than S35 films in theaters, due to the smaller negative and the optical enlargement step. However, DIs and digital projection have flattened that difference, and anamorphic is chosen for the aesthetic qualities of the distortion, stretchy bokeh, and shallower depth of field, not because it ends up looking sharper.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Dragun

Back in the pre-DI days anamorphic films did look sharper and more fine-grained than S35 films in theaters, due to the smaller negative and the optical enlargement step. However, DIs and digital projection have flattened that difference, and anamorphic is chosen for the aesthetic qualities of the distortion, stretchy bokeh, and shallower depth of field, not because it ends up looking sharper.

With digital photography and the latest generation of anamorphic lenses the sharpness issue is moot. More and more directors are switching to the format.


Hell, Sam Mendes shot SPECTRE in anamorphic. Not only his first, but a first for Bond since Die Another Day.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by Dragun

Back in the pre-DI days anamorphic films did look sharper and more fine-grained than S35 films in theaters, due to the smaller negative and the optical enlargement step. However, DIs and digital projection have flattened that difference, and anamorphic is chosen for the aesthetic qualities of the distortion, stretchy bokeh, and shallower depth of field, not because it ends up looking sharper.

But DI greatly limits a film's visual quality. Why do you think PTA and Nolan refuse to use DIs?

[James78]

The back cover of The Black Tulip says that it has been remastered in 4K:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-B...lu-ray/125188/

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Dragun

Back in the pre-DI days anamorphic films did look sharper and more fine-grained than S35 films in theaters, due to the smaller negative and the optical enlargement step. However, DIs and digital projection have flattened that difference, and anamorphic is chosen for the aesthetic qualities of the distortion, stretchy bokeh, and shallower depth of field, not because it ends up looking sharper.

Again: I love anamorphic precisely for the distinctive look that it creates. But not everyone's a fan, e.g. David Fincher and Jim Cameron both greatly dislike the format. I'm just telling y'all what I heard from someone who's worked on the VFX for some big movies.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Again: I love anamorphic precisely for the distinctive look that it creates. But not everyone's a fan, e.g. David Fincher and Jim Cameron both greatly dislike the format. I'm just telling y'all what I heard from someone who's worked on the VFX for some big movies.

You know what's funny?

Different people claim different things said by VFX people all the time.

I once met Allen Daviau, who shot several of Spielberg's movies. He said that VFX people hate anamorphic widescreen.

[Geoff D]

VFX people are entitled to their own opinions, no? I haven't met Mr Daviau but my correspondent doesn't hate it, as although it requires a bit more work to match the distortion and whatnot (even the added/replicated grain must be 'squeezed' to look correct) that stuff is a doddle with today's digital tools, he simply prefers working with the greater sharpness of S35 vs anamorphic.

He knows full well that it hasn't got as much measurable resolution as anamorphic, but anamorphic just isn't as sharp across the frame for all the reasons that have been described: the distortion, the shallow depth of field and so on. And although the most modern glass is faster and sharper than ever before, a lot of DPs select much older lens packages because they truly want to emulate that smooth, glossy Panavision look of old, not to get it looking blisteringly sharp.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by James78

The back cover of The Black Tulip says that it has been remastered in 4K:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-B...lu-ray/125188/

This has been added, weeks ago. But listed under the "T" which is an error. Should be under the "S" of Schwarze