4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You don't know who Kris Deering is methinks.

He's an old dirt bike rider from days past.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

While enthusiasts are waiting on 4K Blu-ray…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...247826&page=37

Here’s a nice easy-to-read compilation of choices for the interim for those who just can’t wait…. http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...ontent-new-tv/

70” 4K tv for less than 2K while supplies last….http://www.costco.com/Vizio-70%22-Cl...100131120.html

C’mon Sony! bring down those prices on your fabulous 4K TVs so price conscious folks can partake this Holiday season as your resizing algorithm is superb.

P.S.
Note: To any readers living in the Buffalo area, I don’t think buying this Vizio TV is considered ‘essential travel’…. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/ny...york.html?_r=5

[detroit1]

Samsung is having huge sales on all their 4K TV's starting now

LG will probably follow and the new Sharp 70 4k is 2,999 max price right now

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well, I’m happy to learn that from you guys, for honestly, my experience had been that no matter which theatrical incarnation I viewed, with the exception of the IMAX captured shots, a significant portion of the 35mm imagery looked fuzzier than I would have expected.

So much so, that it actually had me wondering if Chris N. was purposely using selective defocus a la Grey’s Anatomy (but in the case with Interstellar, during acquisition) as a stylistic choice, like with his sound mixing decision….



http://www.businessinsider.com/inter...ritics-2014-11



I don’t plan on seeing this motion picture yet another (which would make it a total of 4) time at a commercial theater so at least there is now hope that the soft look I viewed is not baked into the imagery and thusly, the Blu-ray edition may turn out being the best looking (in terms of overall detail) of any incarnation that I will have seen for the motion picture in its entirety.

The 35mm didn't look perfect, don't get me wrong, which is why I said it looked about as good as I'd expect, given that it's been blown up from IP material. The big ol' close-up of McConaughey crying looked incredibly soft, but other shots really did look excellent, there were several close-ups of Ms Chastain near the end that were nice and sharp, and the rest of the 35mm scenes were somewhere inbetween.

I don't know if Nolan actively softens the images, I think it's more a case of him liking the look of certain lenses. Not all glass is created equal, and given how some DPs request specific serial numbers when acquiring lens packages it wouldn't surprise me if Nolan did the same thing, using much older anamorphic primes which don't have the resolving power of more modern glass.

Having recently watched Inception on Blu again I was very impressed at how good the 35mm stuff looked, so if the Interstellar Blu falls below that level of quality then we'll know something's up.

[reanimator]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

a significant portion of the 35mm imagery looked fuzzier than I would have expected.

Agreed. Saw it today in digital at Arclight Beach Cities. Definitely a soft looking image.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You don't know who Kris Deering is methinks.

Heh. I know who he is. Your point?

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The 35mm didn't look perfect, don't get me wrong, which is why I said it looked about as good as I'd expect, given that it's been blown up from IP material. The big ol' close-up of McConaughey crying looked incredibly soft, but other shots really did look excellent, there were several close-ups of Ms Chastain near the end that were nice and sharp, and the rest of the 35mm scenes were somewhere inbetween.

I don't know if Nolan actively softens the images, I think it's more a case of him liking the look of certain lenses. Not all glass is created equal, and given how some DPs request specific serial numbers when acquiring lens packages it wouldn't surprise me if Nolan did the same thing, using much older anamorphic primes which don't have the resolving power of more modern glass.

Having recently watched Inception on Blu again I was very impressed at how good the 35mm stuff looked, so if the Interstellar Blu falls below that level of quality then we'll know something's up.

I sat about 4 rows back. That's close to the screen. Nothing jumped out at me as problematic. Where as when i saw TDK and TDKR the 35mm scenes were obviously less detailed and soft. Not so with Interstellar.

I would agree that it was soft and fuzzy if i never saw it again at another theater. I must of been lucky to find that one. It was literally perfect.

[saprano]

Speaking of Kris; Nice review of the new Sony 4K projector in the December issue of S&V. In a time where, imo, the display market has gone to crap, these words give me hope that i still have something to look forward too-


"You want the look of a giant plasma in your home theater? You got it. "

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The 35mm didn't look perfect, don't get me wrong, which is why I said it looked about as good as I'd expect, given that it's been blown up from IP material. The big ol' close-up of McConaughey crying looked incredibly soft, but other shots really did look excellent, there were several close-ups of Ms Chastain near the end that were nice and sharp, and the rest of the 35mm scenes were somewhere inbetween.

I don't know if Nolan actively softens the images, I think it's more a case of him liking the look of certain lenses. Not all glass is created equal, and given how some DPs request specific serial numbers when acquiring lens packages it wouldn't surprise me if Nolan did the same thing, using much older anamorphic primes which don't have the resolving power of more modern glass.

Having recently watched Inception on Blu again I was very impressed at how good the 35mm stuff looked, so if the Interstellar Blu falls below that level of quality then we'll know something's up.

Good idea, as I have the Blu-ray of Inception at home and will keep it handy for when I eventually purchase the Blu of Interstellar.

Until then, another thing that I’m still a bit perplexed about is that with my theatrical viewing experiences, not only were there scenes in which the imagery was soft overall, but even granted a short depth of the field with the glass…



the focus itself in some shots seemed *off*. Intentional? or not?...honestly, I don’t know. What I’m talking about is that for instance, instead of the presumed (by me) center of attention in the scene being the most sharply focused, I’d see something relatively inconsequential, behind or in front of it, to be the most in focus. Or, looking at the illustrative pic above, imagine the shirt of the guitarist being in perfect focus rather than his fingers on the strings.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by reanimator

Agreed. Saw it today in digital at Arclight Beach Cities. Definitely a soft looking image.

Good to know I’m not going crazy.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

Heh. I know who he is. Your point?

Well, my point, for new readers to the thread, is that be it on or off topic, I try to remember everything of substance which fellow members write - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...da#post1429837

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Good idea, as I have the Blu-ray of Inception at home and will keep it handy for when I eventually purchase the Blu of Interstellar.

Until then, another thing that I’m still a bit perplexed about is that with my theatrical viewing experiences, not only were there scenes in which the imagery was soft overall, but even granted a short depth of the field with the glass…

the focus itself in some shots seemed *off*. Intentional? or not?...honestly, I don’t know. What I’m talking about is that for instance, instead of the presumed (by me) center of attention in the scene being the most sharply focused, I’d see something relatively inconsequential, behind or in front of it, to be the most in focus. Or, looking at the illustrative pic above, imagine the shirt of the guitarist being in perfect focus rather than his fingers on the strings.

Yup, it seems as if some shots were wide open with such a shallow DOF that if the subject shifted slightly or the shot itself was moving then the focus wasn't all the way perfect (though technically it was performed as well as possible given the 'walking the tightrope' nature of the lensing). But it's Nolan's call, and if he was happy with the scene then he was happy with the scene. Reminds me of Kubrick, because for all of his legendary technical perfectionism what he was always after was the performance, and if there was a mistake or a goof in the shot itself then it didn't matter as long as he got what he wanted.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

Speaking of Kris; Nice review of the new Sony 4K projector in the December issue of S&V. In a time where, imo, the display market has gone to crap, these words give me hope that i still have something to look forward too-

"You want the look of a giant plasma in your home theater? You got it. "

Sap, years ago, I mentioned here on this forum that 4K OLED TVs would be the “Holy Grail” in terms of display technology and in that regard, there is hope for Kuro diehards - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...2#post10023852

It’s just that it has been mucho R&D $$ and a loooong time in coming since the first - http://www.oled-info.com/sony-xel-1 . For perspective, once challenged by President Kennedy, we got a man on the moon in 8 years time. We’re now at 7 years with OLED.

Less than highly discerning/elitist viewers who simply can’t or don’t want to spend that much money on a TV, may desire an alternative in the meantime at attractive price points, namely LCD/LED. I think it’s all good.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sap, years ago, I mentioned here on this forum that 4K OLED TVs would be the “Holy Grail” in terms of display technology and in that regard, there is hope for Kuro diehards - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...2#post10023852

It’s just that it has been mucho R&D $$ and a loooong time in coming since the first - http://www.oled-info.com/sony-xel-1 . For perspective, once challenged by President Kennedy, we got a man on the moon in 8 years time. We’re now at 7 years with OLED.

Less than highly discerning/elitist viewers who simply can’t or don’t want to spend that much money on a TV, may desire an alternative in the meantime at attractive price points, namely LCD/LED. I think it’s all good.

Still going strong with my KURO, but, I'm killing for a projector. As for OLED what ever happened to TOLED, you know, the technology that was bezel less and essentially a piece of glass?

All mute for me the TV screens as it will be a projector if anything next, however, I will consider a 4K monitor for the PC.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yup, it seems as if some shots were wide open with such a shallow DOF that if the subject shifted slightly or the shot itself was moving then the focus wasn't all the way perfect (though technically it was performed as well as possible given the 'walking the tightrope' nature of the lensing). But it's Nolan's call, and if he was happy with the scene then he was happy with the scene. Reminds me of Kubrick, because for all of his legendary technical perfectionism what he was always after was the performance, and if there was a mistake or a goof in the shot itself then it didn't matter as long as he got what he wanted.

Despite only being 2.8 K source format, Kudos to the Director, DP and the focus puller on another technically complicated motion picture, namely, Birdman especially when

[Show spoiler]Michael Keaton runs through Times Square in his knickers

For readers unfamiliar with Birdman, some background of what those filmmakers had to endure, scroll down thru the article…..
http://remezcla.com/features/film-al...d-the-monitor/

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sap, years ago, I mentioned here on this forum that 4K OLED TVs would be the “Holy Grail” in terms of display technology and in that regard, there is hope for Kuro diehards - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...2#post10023852

It’s just that it has been mucho R&D $$ and a loooong time in coming since the first - http://www.oled-info.com/sony-xel-1 . For perspective, once challenged by President Kennedy, we got a man on the moon in 8 years time. We’re now at 7 years with OLED.

Less than highly discerning/elitist viewers who simply can’t or don’t want to spend that much money on a TV, may desire an alternative in the meantime at attractive price points, namely LCD/LED. I think it’s all good.

I'm still excited for OLED. It's just that currently there's too many if's and's or but's regarding the tech. And (there it goes) with only one manufacture making displays it's future doesn't look too bright. For now anyway. We'll see what happens at CES.

It needs to improve more too. Besides blacks, the best plasmas out perform it in everything else. Or it's at equal level.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Still going strong with my KURO, but, I'm killing for a projector. As for OLED what ever happened to TOLED, you know, the technology that was bezel less and essentially a piece of glass?

All mute for me the TV screens as it will be a projector if anything next, however, I will consider a 4K monitor for the PC.

I believe that is very much still on the cards. transparent displays are apparently going to be all the rage. I don't see the point personally but maybe they will come up with some genuine uses.

[Penton-Man]

Sony shareholders take note. Last week was ‘Entertainment’ (the Reuters article showing the logo of Sony Corp and a Christmas tree being reflected on the company's 4K television set at Sony headquarters in Tokyo) - http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/1...0J209M20141118

Tomorrow is ‘Electronics’ - http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info...cs_141125.html

Papa needs a new pair of shoes, hope to see a bump up in the stock on Tues.!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

...with only one manufacture making displays it's future doesn't look too bright.

Yes, that is something which would definitely have to be remedied for the non-professional sector.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

‘Electronics’ - http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info...cs_141125.html

Page 3 – ”Even in this environment, the 4K market (yellow colored portion of bar graphs) will grow steadily”.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info...s/HEandS_E.pdf