Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk 4K UHD 60p/3D (2016)

[DJJez]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I will. and I hope all movies will finally be re;eased in 60fps as teh new standard...about time

what is about time? u like it better than 24p? yes the detail is more but its look completely unnatural/not cinematic!

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by DJJez

what is about time? u like it better than 24p? yes the detail is more but its look completely unnatural/not cinematic!

There is nothing remotely natural about the look of 24fps unless you are drunk or stoned

[MisterXDTV]

This discussion is pointless: 24p is not going away anytime soon and if you hate it, you simply don't like movies, a century of great movies...

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

This discussion is pointless: 24p is not going away anytime soon and if you hate it, you simply don't like movies, a century of great movies...

Little footnotes:
. TV comes with motion interpolation for a good reason
. More directors are starting to think outside the box and go HFR
. Expect 60fps to become the norm not the exception (it migh take a little time to weed out the most closed-minded purists, but it will happen)
. Peter Jackson was a genius

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

This discussion is pointless: 24p is not going away anytime soon and if you hate it, you simply don't like movies, a century of great movies...

LOL!

There's nothing inherently cinematic about 24p. The only reason 24p was first used was due to audio sync issues and because it was cheaper to shoot in than in higher framerate.

Just because you got used to it doesn't mean that it's the only way movies should be experienced.

Notice how all of the irrational individuals who prefer 24p don't state any technical reasons for supporting their silly opinion. Their opinion simply boils down to "just because."

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

LOL!

There's nothing inherently cinematic about 24p. The only reason 24p was first used was due to audio sync issues and because it was cheaper to shoot in than in higher framerate.

Just because you got used to it doesn't mean that it's the only way movies should be experienced.

Notice how all of the irrational individuals who prefer 24p don't state any technical reasons for supporting their silly opinion. Their opinion simply boils down to "just because."

Silent movies were not in 24fps...They must not be cinematic either

[Resettito]

You do know there's actually many directors who hate motion interpolation? Guys like Rian Johnson (Looper, SW EP VIII), or James Mangold who just despise it, and if you're a serious director, you'd despise it too. Hell, if you love cinema, you'll despise it, it's heresy to watch a 24 fps shot film with this crap.

Second: what are you talking about? "MOST" directors? where? in your closet? Aside from Doug Trumbull, Peter Jackson, Ang Lee & Jim probably with his four Avatar sequels, no one has made HFR films.

Third: it's nice & everything, I'm excited about HFR for select films, but it'll NEVER be embraced, it's just reality, most people just don't like it, they just don't. HFR looks & feels better after several experiences.

The thing is most people see Billy Lynn or The Hobbit once, hate the way it looks, and you're done, you're out, you don't get them a second time in the room unless they give it a shot.

It's cool & all to say there's nothing inherently cinematic about 24 fps, but it has been the norm and the way films have looked for a hundred plus years, it's just what we are used to, and what we define as "cinematic". It's suspension of disbelief, HFR removes that, and as we've witnessed it with the gigantic backlash on The Hobbit and on Billy Lynn (I'm rooting for Ang, and I'm a 24 fps guy, but I have to admit that the reaction has been dreadful), most people just don't want it to feel real, they like feeling it's a film, and that they're not taken out of it.


None of what you guys are saying are facts and you're not going to convince anyone of it. HFR is cool for select things, but it'll never catch on fire because it is too associated with what is perceived as a soap opera-ish look, or the video game look, it's just how it is.

But hey, I hope Ang keeps exploring, folks can just watch the 24 fps if they don't dig the HFR.

[DJJez]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

There is nothing remotely natural about the look of 24fps unless you are drunk or stoned

oh dear. your comments are absolutley ridiculous. one movie comes along with 60p and your saying its going to become the norm and that 24p aint cinematic??? do you even watch movies? what do u think of all the movies in 24p from the last how many years? please when you talk make sense and back it up with logic, you sound like an idiot

we can see that you like 60p but what your saying is ridiculous

' Expect 60fps to become the norm not the exception (it migh take a little time to weed out the most closed-minded purists, but it will happen)'

yes of course. majority of people dont like it but it will become the norm. you are talking from your head, not backing it up with anything logical

[LordoftheRings]

I've watched Billy in 3D couple nights ago.
Impressive, very.

Technically powerful, emotionally even more powerful. 90% (my score, for all).

Last word: A Must Have in your Blu collection. ...Without one cent of a doubt.
{Always believe in you first, than believe in Billy.}

[EthanRunt]

Caught this tonight, after it finally hit cinemas over here last week in 2D 24fps, I decided to wait for my order instead. Glad I did, the 60fps experience had my parents and I fully enveloped into Billy's day, and brain. I watched the halftime sequence again on the 3D disk, and it was a different experience. The claustrophobia of the tunnel fight rather than the frankness of the moment, the expanse of emptiness of the soldiers on the stage as the stagehands are striking it, rather than the length of time it felt for Billy to still be standing still.
Amazing the emotional differences the same scenes can have when seen in dimensionality or movement clarity.

Loved the film, and the 4K disk's experience really felt like the start of something special, if directors opt to utilise HFR on the correct films. Didn't like it with the first Hobbit, it felt too fantastical in the action sequences to let my mind opt in, but then a Rivendell conversation scene did make my jaw drop with clarity. Small dramas might work better for HFR than big action.

[Opips3]

Blow up me bomb

60p HFR. Ghost in the Shell trailer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-BaOvkkIfc

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by Resettito

You do know there's actually many directors who hate motion interpolation? Guys like Rian Johnson (Looper, SW EP VIII), or James Mangold who just despise it, and if you're a serious director, you'd despise it too. Hell, if you love cinema, you'll despise it, it's heresy to watch a 24 fps shot film with this crap.

Second: what are you talking about? "MOST" directors? where? in your closet? Aside from Doug Trumbull, Peter Jackson, Ang Lee & Jim probably with his four Avatar sequels, no one has made HFR films.

Third: it's nice & everything, I'm excited about HFR for select films, but it'll NEVER be embraced, it's just reality, most people just don't like it, they just don't. HFR looks & feels better after several experiences.

The thing is most people see Billy Lynn or The Hobbit once, hate the way it looks, and you're done, you're out, you don't get them a second time in the room unless they give it a shot.

It's cool & all to say there's nothing inherently cinematic about 24 fps, but it has been the norm and the way films have looked for a hundred plus years, it's just what we are used to, and what we define as "cinematic". It's suspension of disbelief, HFR removes that, and as we've witnessed it with the gigantic backlash on The Hobbit and on Billy Lynn (I'm rooting for Ang, and I'm a 24 fps guy, but I have to admit that the reaction has been dreadful), most people just don't want it to feel real, they like feeling it's a film, and that they're not taken out of it.


None of what you guys are saying are facts and you're not going to convince anyone of it. HFR is cool for select things, but it'll never catch on fire because it is too associated with what is perceived as a soap opera-ish look, or the video game look, it's just how it is.

But hey, I hope Ang keeps exploring, folks can just watch the 24 fps if they don't dig the HFR.

Most people don't have a brain and therefore don't think for themselves. The proof is the many people in this thread and others, who support 24p for no reason other than the fact that someone way back when decided to circumvent audio sync issues in a cost effective manner. If HFR became widely used, people would accept it, because most like being told what to do and what to think.

[brainofj72]

I am open to HFR after watching this movie, but your combative, self-righteous, condescending attitude is not winning anyone over or helping your argument.

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by brainofj72

I am open to HFR after watching this movie, but your combative, self-righteous, condescending attitude is not winning anyone over or helping your argument.

Worked for Donald Trump.

[brainofj72]

Oh god. Welcome to Trump's America, everyone.

[HeatEquation]

It was a joke. I'm not trying to win anyone over, because nothing we say on a forum frequented by 5 people will make a difference in the grand scheme of things.

[brainofj72]

If you're not trying to win anyone over, why bother posting at all? What's the point of arguing about it so insistently?

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by brainofj72

If you're not trying to win anyone over, why bother posting at all? What's the point of arguing about it so insistently?

For the same reason everyone else posts on message boards.

[brainofj72]

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

For the same reason everyone else posts on message boards.

Uh, I think your idea of what makes message boards enjoyable is...pretty different from most other people here.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Opips3

Blow up me bomb

60p HFR. Ghost in the Shell trailer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-BaOvkkIfc

Opips, I know you like these HFR trailers on YouTube, but they are all fake. Ghost in the Shell is a 24fps film. And no studio has ever released an HFR trailer. Warner didn't for The Hobbit, and Sony didn't for Billy Lynn.