Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by adywan

Video of the new CG Yoda in TPM:

http://d2np6futyd7kp6.cloudfront.net...lip_3_MJPG.mp4

if they really wanted him to look younger, they should have given him animal's hair(guy on the right) http://ecwfrenchtribute.free.fr/HTLM...Of_Doom_18.jpg

he already has a good start, just add in more so it is a mohawk and you have a hip, cool and younger yoda

[Strevlac]

Originally Posted by SonOfTorah

SW fans had the original trilogy released on dvd with stereo sound, in widescreen but no-o-o they weren't happy with that release, they want the best of both worlds with the trilogy digitally remastered to the Nth degree but without any alterations so the visual effects look as crappy as people remember them, including the untra-thick matte lines around the Rancor etc.

The disrespect for the art of film and film history in this thread is pretty depressing. I guess every film ever made needs to be updated every ten years to add new elements so they can be considered watchable to shallow, ignorant, video-game addicted plebes. Film grain in crossfades and other opticals? Matte lines? THE HORROR!!!

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by skyofcrack

What's interesting about the longer cut of the Cantina scene is this passage:

[Show spoiler]Han: Over my dead body
Greedo (with gun in hand and pointed right at Solo): That is the idea, Solo. Now come outside with me or must I finish it here?
Han: I don't think they'd like another killing in here.
Greedo: They'd hardly notice. Get up.
<cut>
Han: Yes, I bet you have.
[Han shoots and leaves]

First, Greedo was pointing his gun on Solo the entire time. Second, he wanted to kill him outside but Greedo gives him the clue that no one would notice in here so, knowing he's going to be killed he blows him away first.

it is funny how many scenes in star wars have extended versions - a snip here or there cut for pacing which makes little changes to the story. a lot of fans still don't know solo had a woman with him at the table in the original movie. sure changes his motives towards leah when you know - makes it look like he is using her to move up the ladder since he already had someone but obviously they were not that important.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by phansson

I don't know if anyone has posted this before, but there is a lot of good information here and if correct, explains the issues with ever getting a new release of the original trilogy.

It is a long read but well worth it.


http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html

Its an excellent read, but Kaminski really needed an editor. This book was wayyyy too long. Half of it could have been trimmed down.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

....a lot of fans still don't know solo had a woman with him at the table in the original movie....

I don't think she was anymore than a hanger-on a bar-hussy, Solo was one of the only humans in the bar. It was the 70's multi-species dating was still frowned upon....

A bit like the pilot of The X-Files were Mulder talks to Scully in bed after their first adventure together. In the deleted scenes her boyfriend is lying next to her. It took all the intimacy out of the scene.

Not sure if it's been answered but are the extras for the Blu's going to be shown in those windows? I'm not sure I like having the [some of] extras displayed like that I hope they have a fullscreen option.

And will the Blu's be able to rotate the models like the iPhone App?

[HandyDandy]

Regarding added stuff does anyone think Lucas will put some sort of flashback sequence in ROTJ.

You know like when Luke is getting fried we see Vader acting as though he is having some sort of flashback moment can we expect something like that.

[tensionfilter]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

it is funny how many scenes in star wars have extended versions - a snip here or there cut for pacing which makes little changes to the story. a lot of fans still don't know solo had a woman with him at the table in the original movie. sure changes his motives towards leah when you know - makes it look like he is using her to move up the ladder since he already had someone but obviously they were not that important.

It seems that editing her out was maybe an early sign of Lucas knowing where he wanted to move Han's character arc.

I wonder if the Flash Gordon vs Stilt Monster footage is going to be on the deleted scenes and other Lost Cut footage, that we have not seen yet.

[phansson]

Originally Posted by MerrickG

Its an excellent read, but Kaminski really needed an editor. This book was wayyyy too long. Half of it could have been trimmed down.

I wonder how accurate it is? It really does have some interesting information.

[ob120485]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Regarding added stuff does anyone think Lucas will put some sort of flashback sequence in ROTJ.

You know like when Luke is getting fried we see Vader acting as though he is having some sort of flashback moment can we expect something like that.

I agree..

IMO, I always thought that the best part to put the flashback scene on is when Luke removed Vader's helmet right after the moment he said "You were right about me..." and they will give us a fully blown Jedi theme in the background instead of the existing music which I guess lacks the emotional push of the scene...

[Jumpman]

His book isn't accurate as he thinks it is.

All his book showed was the unique process that is filmmaking and how an art can evolve from the first intentions to when it's finally done.

All he showed was that Lucas started Star Wars one way and over time he decided to evolve it pass what he originally intended. That's all his book shows.

[adywan]

I don't know if this has been posted or not but it has a few interesting bits about the Blu-ray:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...825-1jb1v.html

[Cowboy]

Originally Posted by SonOfTorah

Lucas needs money in the same way that Bill Gates is short of funds! SW fans had the original trilogy released on dvd with stereo sound, in widescreen but no-o-o they weren't happy with that release, they want the best of both worlds with the trilogy digitally remastered to the Nth degree but without any alterations so the visual effects look as crappy as people remember them

Not anamorphic

Stay on Target! Let's talk about September 12th and what a day it will be! I cant wait, it can't get here soon enough! All the things I love about the movies are going to look simply amazing!

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by adywan

I don't know if this has been posted or not but it has a few interesting bits about the Blu-ray:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...825-1jb1v.html

Cool, thanks. Interesting that they re-did some scenes in ESB and ROTJ. I'm sure they redid others this guy didn't even notice.

I don't mind touchups at all, especially not for this HD release.

[Ernest Rister]

"The scene at the Sarlacc Pit has been digitally altered to include changes to the Sarlacc and to Jabba's barge as well as slight changes to Jabba who is now digitally expressive."

That's big news.

And I'm willing to bet Episode V Yoda will have little tweaks as well.

[danny_boy]

Originally Posted by 42041

Yes, the limitations of HDCAM tape and digital cinematography circa 2002-2004 are locked in forever

Attack Of The Clones was released in Imax without any complaints.

12/03/02 10:15 PM
I just saw Attack of the Clones on IMAX and here is my question:
The movie was shot in digital (something like 1920 X 1080 pixels I'm told) and transfered to the 70mm Imax format. by my calculations (1080 lines divided by an 80ft. screen) each line should be roughly 1 inch high. But I looked and damned if I could find ANY pixelization, vertical or horizontal. How do they do this?
http://forums.howwhatwhy.com/showfla...-222100&fpart=.

More people complained at how the 35mm segments of the Dark Knight looked grainy on Imax!

When the first scene shot in 35mm began, the difference was stark. Film grain suddenly became visible and the clarity dropped significantly.
http://simonweaver.us/?p=942.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by adywan

I don't know if this has been posted or not but it has a few interesting bits about the Blu-ray:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...825-1jb1v.html

Already posted earlier alongside the new IGN UK article confirming Greedo still shoots first. Nooooooooooooooo!

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

http://uk.bluray.ign.com/articles/119/1190282p1.html

Greedo still shoots first in this version (although you may still see an original version of that scene in the set – hint, hint).

Strange though that they have been to what appears to be the exact same presentation as every other preview, but they are the only ones to mention this? Are IGN known for their reliability?

Edit: Yes they are. Han shoots first, but only in the deleted/extended scenes section on the disc.

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...825-1jb1v.html

Included in the 40 hours of special features in the latest release is original footage from iconic Star Wars moments, with the sound as it was recorded, not as it was later overdubbed.

That means that instead of generic American voices for characters, the cockney twang of British actors can be clearly heard in scenes filmed at London's Pinewood Studios. And it's hilarious stuff. Most amusing is the ''Cantina scene'' where Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) and Obi Wan Kenobi (Sir Alec Guinness) drop into their local boozer to find a pilot who will take them off the planet.


''Oi!'' shouts the bartender in his best East End twang as they arrive: ''Get ya plates o' meat back up the apples and pears! We don't serve their kind in 'ere!'' Or words to that effect.

Soon after we cut to a shot of Han, sitting in a booth, snogging a hitherto unseen date. Any leads on where the girl cut from the biggest movie of all time is now, will be greatfully received.

Later, the alien thug Greedo wanders up to tear strips off Han Solo (Harrison Ford) for not paying his debts … and instead of the bleeps and gurgles fans are used to, once again he sounds like he should be pushing a barrow full of eel pies. (Oh, and for purists: Star Wars' creator has let the scene run long enough to finally clear up a long-debated point: yep, Han shot first.)

Here, sorry on my iPhone so couldn't amend the other post.

[HandyDandy]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

"The scene at the Sarlacc Pit has been digitally altered to include changes to the Sarlacc and to Jabba's barge as well as slight changes to Jabba who is now digitally expressive."

That's big news.

And I'm willing to bet Episode V Yoda will have little tweaks as well.

I think Lucasfilm has mixed in cgi with puppet for Yoda to make him look more realistic.

Note** I don't think Yoda will be full cgi just partially cgi

[DarthMarino]

I don't like how IGN claims that Greedo still shoots first then a few sentences later says "we heard there are some more changes to the Blu Ray version though we haven't actually seen them at all and have no clue what they are". It should hardly be a confirmation.

The Australian article is interesting. Hopefully they really did touch up the Sarlaac unless the author forgot that they did that change back in 1997.

[Chris81]

In the movie Greedo does shoot first as he did on the DVD. But there will be a deleted scene where you can see the original scene with only Han shooting.

Edit: The deleted scene including Greedo is called "Cantina roughcut"