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Old 09-23-2016, 01:58 PM   #821
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DD+ seems to be what we will be getting from media streaming for a LONG time.
Honestly, I am a little concerned by this new marketing trend of making new movies available for sale on digital media before they come out on bluray..Are they trying to make bluray go extinct?
Can we please not drive the conversation in that direction and completely derail a thread that should be a valuable point of reference on 4K masters.
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Old 09-23-2016, 02:07 PM   #822
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Can we please not drive the conversation in that direction and completely derail a thread that should be a valuable point of reference on 4K masters.
Agree. Has nothing to do with this.
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Old 09-23-2016, 03:10 PM   #823
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I keep reading that The Martian utilizes a 2K master, but in this thread it's listed as a true 4k master. Which one's true? On fakeorreal4k.com, it states that The Martian is a 2k upscale.
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Old 09-23-2016, 03:11 PM   #824
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I keep reading that The Martian utilizes a 2K master, but in this thread it's listed as a true 4k master. Which one's true? On fakeorreal4k.com, it states that The Martian is a 2k upscale.
This has been beaten to death earlier in the thread...
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Old 09-23-2016, 03:34 PM   #825
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Does it really matter? I mean, do "2K to 4K" looks that much worse? I have XMen (2K to 4K) and SpiderMan 2 (4K) and XMen looks much better
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Old 09-23-2016, 03:36 PM   #826
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Does it really matter? I mean, do "2K to 4K" looks that much worse? I have XMen (2K to 4K) and SpiderMan 2 (4K) and XMen looks much better

Depends on the movie really, but some people are infatuated with 4K DI, and I find the list useful even though it does not drive my purchase. UHD is so close to 1080p in pricing now.

Turtles is a 2K DI and it looks outstanding according to reviews, I plan on watching tonight. People forget that 3D conversions can look real good, so why not think a 2K DI scaled to 4K and put on a disc with better compression cant look better than the Blu?

As far as Martian, I read all the debate and the studio statement, and I agree with listing it.
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This has been beaten to death earlier in the thread...
Sorry about that... 42 pages is a lot to try to read through just to decide whether or not I should pick up the film. Can you provide any insight on this? Or on what page I can find the discussion?
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Sorry about that... 42 pages is a lot to try to read through just to decide whether or not I should pick up the film. Can you provide any insight on this? Or on what page I can find the discussion?
Start here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...1#post11727601
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:33 PM   #829
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If X-Men: Apocalypse tops Days of Future Past it is really going to be a visual treat! Cant wait for the UHD disc to come out
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Old 09-25-2016, 11:34 AM   #830
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If X-Men: Apocalypse tops Days of Future Past it is really going to be a visual treat! Cant wait for the UHD disc to come out
I have the disc from France and I was very impressed. It's even better than Days of Future Past.
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:55 PM   #831
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I have the disc from France and I was very impressed. It's even better than Days of Future Past.
Can someone who hasn't seen an x men since it first came out years and years ago just enjoy this movie. Or do I need to get caught up on the like 10 other films first?
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Old 09-26-2016, 12:38 PM   #833
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Can someone who hasn't seen an x men since it first came out years and years ago just enjoy this movie. Or do I need to get caught up on the like 10 other films first?
The only ones you would have to watch are First Class and Days of Future Past,in that order
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Old 09-26-2016, 07:49 PM   #835
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The only ones you would have to watch are First Class and Days of Future Past,in that order
Guess I'll have to pick those up too.
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Real 4K DI filmed. How you find information proved for UHD 4K??
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Does it really matter? I mean, do "2K to 4K" looks that much worse? I have XMen (2K to 4K) and SpiderMan 2 (4K) and XMen looks much better
Ideally you want the master to be in 4k or higher, so you will have more information to work with when you convert it to 4k.

If you work with 2k to 4k, you are "adding info" and it won't look as good as if you had a higher source!
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Ideally you want the master to be in 4k or higher, so you will have more information to work with when you convert it to 4k.

If you work with 2k to 4k, you are "adding info" and it won't look as good as if you had a higher source!
From what I understand, 2K to 4K looks near regularHD bluray quality, and in some cases even worst due to heavy film grain
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:00 PM   #839
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From what I understand, 2K to 4K looks near regularHD bluray quality, and in some cases even worst due to heavy film grain
You are completely discounting HDR and BT2020 that the UHD discs come with, worrying with only 2k or 4K DI. People do this every time there is a format upgrade, just like the folks that swore up and down True HD and Master sounded like DD 5.1, which was FUD.

Same thing happened with 2D to 3D conversion, granted early conversions were not that good, but now they are excellent. I have watched many UHD discs at this point, some 2K DI, and enjoyed them all. Too many personal agenda's cloud what is actually going on.

TMNT 2 was a 2K DI, and looked outstanding. Shots were razor sharp with pop, inky blacks. Same with Now You See Me 2. To me, the native 2160p discs just has a different "look" than a native 1080p disc, and that is all I am buying now. In the rare case of no UHD, I am still getting 3D, like Jungle Book and Alice in Wonderland 2. Especially when you consider the UHD discs are now only $4-5 more than a blu-ray, and you get the blu-ray too...
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You are completely discounting HDR and BT2020 that the UHD discs come with, worrying with only 2k or 4K DI. People do this every time there is a format upgrade, just like the folks that swore up and down True HD and Master sounded like DD 5.1, which was FUD.

Same thing happened with 2D to 3D conversion, granted early conversions were not that good, but now they are excellent. I have watched many UHD discs at this point, some 2K DI, and enjoyed them all. Too many personal agenda's cloud what is actually going on.

TMNT 2 was a 2K DI, and looked outstanding. Shots were razor sharp with pop, inky blacks. Same with Now You See Me 2. To me, the native 2160p discs just has a different "look" than a native 1080p disc, and that is all I am buying now. In the rare case of no UHD, I am still getting 3D, like Jungle Book and Alice in Wonderland 2. Especially when you consider the UHD discs are now only $4-5 more than a blu-ray, and you get the blu-ray too...
Hard to buy only UHD 2160p when the selection is still so limited. Heck, my favorite movies are produced by Disney/Marvel and they NEVER come out in 2160
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