How to determine if you can benefit from a 4K display

[Auditor55]

From what I've been reading, it looks like display manufacturers might abandon OLED in favor of 4K LED. With Sony, Panasonic and Samsung opting out OLED, the future of display technology looks dim. Hopefully LG can keep hope alive because OLED with be my next purchase if they are available in a few years.

[Robert Zohn]

I have not ^^ read that. LG is selling as many OLED TVs as they can make and Panasonic showed a 65" 4K OLED TV that is most likely a LG OLED panel.

I'm proud of LG for having the guts and foresight to buy the pattens from Eastman Kodak for WRGB OLED. I don't expect OLED to go away, OLED is the future of TV.

-Robert

[UFAlien]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

You've concluded it's useless based solely on resolution.

4K, by definition, is a resolution. A wider color gamut could be incorporated into a standard, but as he said, the same could be done for 1080p.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

I have not ^^ read that. LG is selling as many OLED TVs as they can make and Panasonic showed a 65" 4K OLED TV that is most likely a LG OLED panel.

I'm proud of LG for having the guts and foresight to buy the pattens from Eastman Kodak for WRGB OLED. I don't expect OLED to go away, OLED is the future of TV.

-Robert

Why isn't Panasonic behind OLED? It seems that's where they might find their niche, especially after dumping plasma. They apparently decided to get behind 4K LED where it seems they seriously lag behind Sony, Samsung and Vizio.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by UFAlien

4K, by definition, is a resolution. A wider color gamut could be incorporated into a standard, but as he said, the same could be done for 1080p.

A wider color gamut? What exactly does that mean in all practicality? How much color can you see? Today's TV's seem tremendously color saturated to me.

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Why isn't Panasonic behind OLED? It seems that's where they might find their niche, especially after dumping plasma. They apparently decided to get behind 4K LED where it seems they seriously lag behind Sony, Samsung and Vizio.

Actually Panasonic showed a 65" 4K OLED at CES. It's likely a LG OLED panel, but I'm very happy to see Panasonic showing a 65" 4K OLED TV at CES.

LG owns the rights to make WRGB OLED so they are the only company that can build large OLED displays at this time.

Sadly all manufacturers have discontinued PDP. ):

-Robert

[Falaskan]

I just walked up a few inches away from some of the 4K sets in Best Buy and it still looked like I was looking out a window. I think I can tell the difference. Colour is also superb!

[Canada]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I just walked up a few inches away from some of the 4K sets in Best Buy and it still looked like I was looking out a window. I think I can tell the difference. Colour is also superb!

Just wait until the 4K sets with wider colour show up on the market the colour will be even better or so I am told.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Canada

Just wait until the 4K sets with wider colour show up on the market the colour will be even better or so I am told.

What will they be called? 4k plus? Lol

[Maggot]

To me, 4K will look great once 100 inch screens show up in stores. The 60-65 inch 4K screens I see at Best buy and Fry's just don't impress. At current screen sizes 4k does show an improvement, but it's not the fantastic one seen going from DVD resolution to 1080p. To me, it looks like the law of diminishing returns is at play with anything under around 100 inches for 4k. The LG 55 inch 1080 OLED beat the pants off the 4k's. Colors and blacks show it will be the new plasma, granted if they can fix the motion issues OLED has. Imagine a 100 inch 4K OLED with excellent fast motion. That would be the perfect TV for me. But that is probably SEVERAL years away for it to be even remotely buyable.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I just walked up a few inches away from some of the 4K sets in Best Buy and it still looked like I was looking out a window. I think I can tell the difference. Colour is also superb!

Yes close up can. However, at normal seating distance (for example 9 feet), you won't. Do you attribute the color accuracy to high resolution?

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Canada

Just wait until the 4K sets with wider colour show up on the market the colour will be even better or so I am told.

Please explain exactly what I expect to see from a TV with a wider color? This sounds to me like some marketing mumbo jumbo. Some of you go to store and look at some of those sets that are in the torch mode, which are no doubt, not displaying accurate colors and you are impressed. Some of the colors are way over-saturated and doesn't look real, however the colors do pop. They are that way because most uninitiated are impressed, they don't care about color accuracy, contrast ratio and black level.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Yes close up can. However, at normal seating distance (for example 9 feet), you won't. Do you attribute the color accuracy to high resolution?

Yes, partially. Color is better, imo.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Yes, partially. Color is better, imo.

Have you seen a 1080P OLED?

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Have you seen a 1080P OLED?

No, comparable to 4K tho?

[Mike7300]

What do you recommend to someone that needs to buy a tv right now? Usually i go for the best i can get without breaking the bank (aka willing to spend up to a couple grand)

But I don't want to throw away a thousand or more dollars on a 4K tv if its not worth it, or if you think it would be much better in a year or 2? If so maybe i am better off just spending 500 bucks on a 50 or 55 inch tv and then getting a 70 or 80 inch 4K once the prices come down a bit?

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Have you seen a 1080P OLED?

excellent advice.

Originally Posted by Falaskan

No, comparable to 4K tho?

No 4K TV beats a 1080p OLED, except for a 4K OLED.

-Robert

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

No 4K TV beats a 1080p OLED, except for a 4K OLED.

-Robert

Can you say why? I'm sure there would be many that would disagree. I will probably upgrade within the year or so and would like to save money too.

[Robert Zohn]

The single most important attribute of video performance is contrast ratio as our eyes can see and appreciate contrast best. OLED displays have very good peak luminance and best of all can go to 0 minimum luminance yielding a very dynamic image with exceptional contrast and color saturation.

4K resolution would only be of some value when viewed very close to the screen and even than the higher contrast of OLED would deliver a better picture.

Finally, but not the least important is that OLED, like plasma is an emissive display technology, where each pixel is it's own local dimming zone. All other 4K displays are LCD/LED transmissive displays and screen uniformity, off axes viewing and control of the overall screen contrast ratio are inferior to PDP and OLED.

In your situation it's not an issue you will have to consider as all OLED displays will be 4K by this summer. LG is not making any 1080p OLED panels for the 2015 line-up.

Hope this helps.

-Robert

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

In your situation it's not an issue you will have to consider as all OLED displays will be 4K by this summer. LG is not making any 1080p OLED panels for the 2015 line-up.

Hope this helps.

-Robert

True, but 4K OLED will have to go down quite a bit before I bite. I doubt I'd spend over 3 grand for a display, and preferably less.