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Polyh3dron · 05-08-2009, 04:43 AM

That account was banned because he basically outed himself as a sock puppet account of someone who was previously banned. They still haven't found mine though, lol.

They did some stupid bannings back in the format war heyday.

BStecke · 05-08-2009, 04:46 AM

Huh . . . this is interesting. Hopefully a non-schizo review comes out soon. I'd like to know whether this is worth the double dip.

aiman04 · 05-08-2009, 05:16 AM

Blu-ray.com review of the UK edition is up:

T2 Skynet UK Blu-ray.com Review

Are they using the same transfer for US edition as well?

sinister184 · 05-08-2009, 06:23 AM

eh.. ill pass on the DD

ArieS · 05-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Pro-B, thanks for the review and I have a question for ya, hopefully you have an answer.
How different is this release from the French BD (the 2 discs edition) that came out last Oct or Nov regarding the PQ and AQ. Have you had the chance to watch/review this release? Thanks.

McCrutchy · 05-08-2009, 11:17 AM

I might guess that the US Skynet BD will have better PQ. I read somewhere on another forum that it's a higher bitrate encode than the UK Skynet BD, and that makes sense considering the UK, German, and French discs have those multiple language options.

Hopefully we will know tonight...

P.S. Why it there a German DTS-MA 7.1 track on a UK disc? I mean, did they have to port everything over all three international versions? If so, how come the French lose out with only DTS-HD HR?

cathexist · 05-08-2009, 12:13 PM

Looked around a little for this, but how big is the skull?

EDIT: Finally found my own answer at the best buy site: 14"

...trying to decide on this one now...

RiseDarthVader · 05-08-2009, 02:28 PM

Such a shame the release has been DNR'd to death.

KubrickFan · 05-08-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

Such a shame the release has been DNR'd to death.

Has it? They didn't make a new master or anything, so I don't think there would be a big difference compared to the other Blu-Rays out there.

ryoohki · 05-08-2009, 03:03 PM

Like i said previously. This release have not really been DNR. DNR was applied at source when the CGI Team processed the movie. This is not the only movie that have suffered this way of early CGI. The only way to remove it completly would be to bring the original element and re-render everything with fake grain (like they did with TOS in some case). Since they couldn't do that in 1991. They smoothed the film down to a point that CGI was not apparent. Today they can match grain pattern of the film (or noise if it's digitally shot) or they added more noise/grain to the whole movie

Blu-Runner · 05-08-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoohki

Like i said previously. This release have not really been DNR. DNR was applied at source when the CGI Team processed the movie. This is not the only movie that have suffered this way of early CGI. The only way to remove it completly would be to bring the original element and re-render everything with fake grain (like they did with TOS in some case). Since they couldn't do that in 1991. They smoothed the film down to a point that CGI was not apparent. Today they can match grain pattern of the film (or noise if it's digitally shot) or they added more noise/grain to the whole movie

That's interesting, I was not aware that the technique was applied at that time. Good to know when it comes to placing blame.

pro-bassoonist · 05-08-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArieS

Pro-B, thanks for the review and I have a question for ya, hopefully you have an answer.
How different is this release from the French BD (the 2 discs edition) that came out last Oct or Nov regarding the PQ and AQ. Have you had the chance to watch/review this release? Thanks.

Good morning ArieS,

Unfortunately, I have not seen the French BD release that came out last October and cannot comment how the Skynet Edition compares to it. I would think that it is nowhere near as good though, given that aside from the noise filtering, which is the main issue with the Skynet Edition, there are a number of dramatic improvements that are very noticeable on a larger than 50' screen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

P.S. Why it there a German DTS-MA 7.1 track on a UK disc? I mean, did they have to port everything over all three international versions? If so, how come the French lose out with only DTS-HD HR?

Good morning to you too McCrutchy:

The reason why the Skynet Edition boasts a German DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 dub is because it is marketed for sale in Germany, France and the United Kingdom (this is a co-release between the German Kinowelt, the French Studio Canal and the British Optimum Releasing). In fact, you could entirely set up the menu interfaces in either English, German, or French. (By the way, one of the reasons why the disc offers Turkish subtitles is because there is an extremely large Turkish community in Germany).

All in all, the Skynet Edition is far better than the old Lionsgate release!!

I hope this helps and please do not hesitate to ask if you should have any other questions.

Pro-B

RiseDarthVader · 05-09-2009, 01:48 AM

Look at the screenshots for this sites reviews. You can see the scenes with no visual effects compositing had less detail and way less grain then the original release.

HeavyHitter · 05-09-2009, 02:55 AM

The original UK release has more film grain than the Skynet version.

Sussudio · 05-09-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiskiboy97

U.S. release review coming tomorrow.

where is it!

i only ask because i'm very excited to read it

Blu-ray Fanatic · 05-09-2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sussudio

where is it!

i only ask because i'm very excited to read it

The only version up for review now is the region B. The US version will be reviewed soon enough. I'm just as anxious as you are.

Sussudio · 05-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

The only version up for review now is the region B. The US version will be reviewed soon enough. I'm just as anxious as you are.

i know...the statement from martin was from 2 days ago, that's why i brought it up again

DetroitSportsFan · 05-09-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel

split personalities maybe?

Yep, sounds like Peter Bracke.

kiskiboy97 · 05-09-2009, 07:06 PM

Sorry...a few personal issues cropped up over the past few days. Working on it.

Sussudio · 05-09-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiskiboy97

Sorry...a few personal issues cropped up over the past few days. Working on it.

no problem! i know you guys have a life outside of this forum...i'm just very stoked to read it

05-08-2009, 05:16 AM	#423
aiman04 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Malaysia Home Theater Gallery:9	Blu-ray.com review of the UK edition is up: T2 Skynet UK Blu-ray.com Review Are they using the same transfer for US edition as well? Last edited by Deciazulado; 05-11-2009 at 06:45 AM.

05-08-2009, 12:13 PM	#427
cathexist Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Aurora, CO 4K collection:302 Blu-ray collection:1253 DVD collection:73 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:8	Looked around a little for this, but how big is the skull? EDIT: Finally found my own answer at the best buy site: 14" ...trying to decide on this one now... Last edited by cathexist; 05-08-2009 at 01:32 PM.

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05-08-2009, 04:43 AM	#421
Polyh3dron Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	That account was banned because he basically outed himself as a sock puppet account of someone who was previously banned. They still haven't found mine though, lol. They did some stupid bannings back in the format war heyday.

05-08-2009, 04:46 AM	#422
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Huh . . . this is interesting. Hopefully a non-schizo review comes out soon. I'd like to know whether this is worth the double dip.

05-08-2009, 06:23 AM	#424
sinister184 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:FL, USA Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:52 Blu-ray collection:593 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:17	eh.. ill pass on the DD

05-08-2009, 09:35 AM	#425
ArieS Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Portland, OR 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:33	Pro-B, thanks for the review and I have a question for ya, hopefully you have an answer. How different is this release from the French BD (the 2 discs edition) that came out last Oct or Nov regarding the PQ and AQ. Have you had the chance to watch/review this release? Thanks.

05-08-2009, 11:17 AM	#426
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1263 Blu-ray collection:6773 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	I might guess that the US Skynet BD will have better PQ. I read somewhere on another forum that it's a higher bitrate encode than the UK Skynet BD, and that makes sense considering the UK, German, and French discs have those multiple language options. Hopefully we will know tonight... P.S. Why it there a German DTS-MA 7.1 track on a UK disc? I mean, did they have to port everything over all three international versions? If so, how come the French lose out with only DTS-HD HR?

05-08-2009, 02:28 PM	#428
RiseDarthVader Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:136	Such a shame the release has been DNR'd to death.

05-08-2009, 03:03 PM	#430
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	Like i said previously. This release have not really been DNR. DNR was applied at source when the CGI Team processed the movie. This is not the only movie that have suffered this way of early CGI. The only way to remove it completly would be to bring the original element and re-render everything with fake grain (like they did with TOS in some case). Since they couldn't do that in 1991. They smoothed the film down to a point that CGI was not apparent. Today they can match grain pattern of the film (or noise if it's digitally shot) or they added more noise/grain to the whole movie

05-09-2009, 01:48 AM	#433
RiseDarthVader Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:136	Look at the screenshots for this sites reviews. You can see the scenes with no visual effects compositing had less detail and way less grain then the original release.

05-09-2009, 02:55 AM	#434
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	The original UK release has more film grain than the Skynet version.

05-09-2009, 07:06 PM	#439
kiskiboy97 Blu-ray reviewer Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	Sorry...a few personal issues cropped up over the past few days. Working on it.

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