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Old 11-26-2017, 04:18 PM   #1481
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mp3dom is a wizard.

I'm happy with my JP Blu-ray though.
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:59 PM   #1482
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Indeed. I asked about Fate/Stay Night UBW (The TV version- not the film)- and they’ve manually debanded it like Madoka, and mp3dom implies it’s gonna be a superior release in terms of image quality. Same situation with Yamato 2199- both series are pretty expensive to get releases with subs/dubs, but this should be a cheaper and better looking option.
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:35 PM   #1483
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So again, Dynit edition is the best in the world in terms of pictures quality.
Damn, GG Mp3dom.

It's difficult to see from theses screenshots, but I don't see the green teint on the IT version.
I posted the wrong screenshotcomparison.com link, IT vs TW instead of IT vs JP. Green tint present.

The person who made those screenshots is trying to post here, but his posts don't show up. Hopefully mods will get that fixed soon.

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Indeed. I asked about Fate/Stay Night UBW (The TV version- not the film)- and they’ve manually debanded it like Madoka, and mp3dom implies it’s gonna be a superior release in terms of image quality. Same situation with Yamato 2199- both series are pretty expensive to get releases with subs/dubs, but this should be a cheaper and better looking option.
Nice. Really thinking of getting one of those $30 Android media players with an S905x chipset and mount an external HDD to it.

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Old 11-26-2017, 07:27 PM   #1484
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Adieu Galaxy Express 999 Nova Media Blu-ray: Screenshots

Looks better than the first film, but it's a bad rehash with story elements shamelessly stolen from The Empire Strikes Back and Soylent Green.

BDInfo report:
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     ADIEU_GALAXY_EXPRESS_999
Disc Size:      42.310.170.937 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 2:10:09.510 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   40.126.402.560 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41,11 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34227 kbps          1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Japanese        1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        1490 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1490 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -2dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             Korean          192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          13,640 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        37,869 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          0,553 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           English         19,775 kbps
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Adieu Galaxy Express 999 Nova Media Blu-ray: Screenshots
Looks filtered to hell and back. Might as well be an upscale. Yuck.
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:44 PM   #1486
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mp3dom is a wizard.

I'm happy with my JP Blu-ray though.
Yeah me too, they do look almost identical but I can see that the It release has less color banding.
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:53 PM   #1487
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First of all, thanks for all the kind words.
No debanding was applied to "Kimi no na wa" as the source was already perfect and didn't need anything. The less "banding" is only due to the dither applied and a bit better grain retention, I guess.
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Old 11-27-2017, 10:38 AM   #1488
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Found a Your Name Dynit vs JP comparison


Also found a BDInfo report:
PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00004.MPLS
Length: 1:46:28.250 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 33.551.447.424 bytes
Total Bitrate: 42,02 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 33450 kbps 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 3130 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3130 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 3094 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3094 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics Italian 43,390 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 4,730 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 14,223 kbps
Yup,those screenshots are from my Blu-ray Discs
Japan/Taiwan/Italy /USA / HK

these screenshots that shows Italy ver much better than Japan ver are from non-telop opening

IT Dynit much better than JP Toho
Almost 1.8x video bitrate
Jp toho video 20.7Mbps low bitrate+poor encode parameters
Many compression artifacts blocking, banding


The main movie
Japan BD better than all other BD release
i guess TOHO send other country inferior HDcamSR source with color problem
to ensure their Japan version better

The same color problem can also be found in USA/UK,AUS/France/Taiwan/HK Blu-ray

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Old 11-27-2017, 11:40 AM   #1489
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A Silent Voice Hong Kong Limited Edition has a different encode than the standard edition (18371 kbps). The BDInfo was posted at the list of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras thread.

Code:
Disc Title: ASILENTV_I
Disc Size: 49,668,080,540 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 40,759,941,120 bytes
Length: 2:09:45.778
Total Bitrate: 41.88 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 34999 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3671 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: Japanese / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Audio: Chinese / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps
Subtitle: Chinese / 26.264 kbps
Subtitle: English / 32.034 kbps
Are there screenshots compare with the Japan version ??

I have bought some HK BD higher video bitrate than JP BD
But the quality is poor
more compression artifacts,more banding,... e.t.c
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Night on the Galactic Railroad – US Blu-ray: Screenshots

Not the greatest HD transfer. There appears to be a lot of CRT scanner noise, similar to Perfect Blue.

Macross Frontier Movie 1: The False Songstress – JP Blu-ray (30th d-Shudisuta-b BOX ver.): https://imgbox.com/g/vcN0XVDW7W

Pretty good looking Blu-ray, but there is some aliasing/shimmering during CGI scenes and banding every now and then.

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Are there screenshots compare with the Japan version ??

I have bought some HK BD higher video bitrate than JP BD
But the quality is poor
more compression artifacts,more banding,... e.t.c
No.

Hong Kong Blu-ray quality can indeed be a bit of a mixed bag, so it probably wouldn't beat the JP Blu-ray even with higher bitrate.

There's a lot of color banding in A Silent Voice that can only be fixed by manually debanding the master. I'm hoping the banding is reduced on the Dynit Blu-ray.
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:02 AM   #1491
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No.

Hong Kong Blu-ray quality can indeed be a bit of a mixed bag, so it probably wouldn't beat the JP Blu-ray even with higher bitrate.

There's a lot of color banding in A Silent Voice that can only be fixed by manually debanding the master. I'm hoping the banding is reduced on the Dynit Blu-ray.
I don't know why the master exist horrible banding
it's already in yuv8bit 4:2:0 / 4:2:2 ?
i can see the horrible banding from DCP in the theater ,

i hope that Dynit ,mp3dom will perfectly fix these problem ,carefully de-banding scene by scene , prevent banding ,and preserve details.

I can't wait to pre-order it

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Old 11-28-2017, 12:17 PM   #1492
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I know Koe no Katachi is gonna most likely have a higher video bitrate, as it’ll have less audio tracks (either 2 or 3- Dynit is debating over including the “inner silence” track), and being DTS-HD MA instead of LPCM takes up less space (yes, I’ve finally accepted that they are theoretically the same auditory experience, but I still prefer LPCM). Bitrate is fine, but I’m confident if they deband it’ll look better- the issue is how much can be- considering some is from the original source. (I’m no expert, granted, but this is what I’m gathering from various sources.)
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... (yes, I’ve finally accepted that they are theoretically the same auditory experience, but I still prefer LPCM).
I feel the same way, and I prefer TrueHD to DTS-HD MA
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Old 11-28-2017, 01:38 PM   #1494
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I know Koe no Katachi is gonna most likely have a higher video bitrate, as it’ll have less audio tracks (either 2 or 3- Dynit is debating over including the “inner silence” track), and being DTS-HD MA instead of LPCM takes up less space (yes, I’ve finally accepted that they are theoretically the same auditory experience, but I still prefer LPCM). Bitrate is fine, but I’m confident if they deband it’ll look better- the issue is how much can be- considering some is from the original source. (I’m no expert, granted, but this is what I’m gathering from various sources.)
LPCM only cost too much bitrate
higher audio bitrate ----> lower video bitrate
and the difference of video quality is enormous


if Dynit BD include “inner silence”
there will be 3 Audios (jap,ita, inner silence)

24bit 48khz 5.1ch DTS-HDMA x 3

it cost too much bitrate.....
each average about 3100~3700Kb/s (estimate)
each maximum about 4500kb/s~5500kb/s (estimate)

the video maximum bitrate will be limited to lower than 32.5Mb/s(estimate)


i think the ideal solution is to put these audio in separate discs


Code:
Disc1 BD50G

main movie:

Video  AVC/H.264 Maximum bitrate 38.0Mb/s(estimate)
Audio1 Italian   5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz 
Audio2 Japanese  5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz


Disc2 BD50G

main movie:

Video  AVC/H.264 Maximum bitrate 38.0Mb/s(estimate)
Audio1 Italian        DTS Headphone:X 24bit/16bit 48khz 
Audio2 Japanese       DTS Headphone:X 24bit/16bit 48khz
Audio3 inner silence  DTS Headphone:X 24bit/16bit 48khz
Audio4 inner silence  5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz


or
Video  AVC/H.264 Maximum bitrate 39.0Mb/s(estimate)
Audio1 Italian        2.0ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz
Audio2 Japanese       2.0ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz
Audio3 inner silence  5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz


In fact, Dynit already did similar process on Your Name. Blu-ray


info from my Discs
Code:
Disc1 BD50G

main movie:

Video  AVC/H.264 Maximum bitrate 38.5Mb/s
Audio1 Italian   5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz 
Audio2 Japanese  5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz


with other special contents 


Disc2 BD50G

special movie:

Video  AVC/H.264 Maximum bitrate 38.5Mb/s
Audio1 Italian (English Theme Songs ver.)   5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz 
Audio2 Japanese (English Theme Songs ver.)  5.1ch DTS-HDMA 24bit 48khz


with other special contents

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Received this a couple of days ago

Slayers - Season 1 - BD from Selecta Vision (Spanish Release)

The episodes are provided roughly 3.61GBs per, and contain two audio tracks, and two subtitle tracks. The audio on the release is Japanese, and Spanish but unfortunately for Spanish listeners the dub was retrieved off old VHS masters meaning the quality of the Spanish track is quite low.

The set does lack any english options so while I find the set a good release for Slayers in a world lacking proper BD masters I'd say unless your willing to either provide your own subtitles, or mux in the English dub yourself then the release will not be for you.

Here are some example scenes between MVM's DVD release of Slayers S1, and the Spanish BD
(I'm not that good at scaling up a DVD screen to do a proper screenshot comparison site type of thing. So I've just embedded individual screenshots from both releases.)
Episode 4
[Show spoiler]MVM's

Selectia Vision


Episode 7
[Show spoiler]MVM's

Selectia Vision


Episode 9
[Show spoiler]MVM's

Selectia Vision



MediaInfo for Episode 1
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Complete name                            : E:\Plex\SLAYERS\Slayers - S01E01 - Angry Lina's Furious Dragon Slave!.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 3.61 GiB
Duration                                 : 22 min 24 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 23.1 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-11-30 20:29:13
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.10.7 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.10.7 (1.3.3/1.4.4) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 22 min 24 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 20.0 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 35.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.402
Stream size                              : 3.13 GiB (87%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
ID in the original source medium         : 4352 (0x1100)
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
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Duration                                 : 22 min 24 s
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Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
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Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 242 MiB (7%)
Title                                    : Stereo
Language                                 : Spanish
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
ID in the original source medium         : 4353 (0x1101)
Format                                   : DTS
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Duration                                 : 22 min 24 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
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Frame rate                               : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 242 MiB (7%)
Title                                    : Stereo
Language                                 : Japanese
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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ID                                       : 4
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Format                                   : PGS
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Stream size                              : 979 KiB (0%)
Language                                 : Spanish
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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Format                                   : PGS
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Bit rate                                 : 46.6 kb/s
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Stream size                              : 7.45 MiB (0%)
Language                                 : Spanish
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
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That is a review for the French release of Steins;Gate by ViCklatereur, who works on the Japanese side of the anime industry, though he can't tell me what he does because that would make it easy to find out his name. He does show off the FUNimation release of Steins;Gate, and says it's from an HDCam and the transfer was poor. That's what I picked up with auto-translated subtitles that, quite frankly aren't that good.

But here's where it gets interesting...

I commented on the video saying how FUNi has poor encoders, and, because he knows English, as I've mentioned in my Stand Alone Complex post, he responded. This is what he said:
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I know about the american version because I've seen the HDCAM SR that Japan has sent to Funimation. Your licensor actually isn't 100% responsible for the color banding issues, the Japanese production team made a transfer on purpose to avoid the back import of the US BD to Japan…

We're also getting a BD release of Haruhi at the beginning of December, but I don't know which master our licensor (Kazé/Viz Media) will use for their BD.

I've seen Dynit's edition of S;G, and I wonder if they got a new HDCAM SR of the series or if they've used another source to make it…
Now, I haven't seen the HDCam footage, so I can't say for sure, and maybe mp3dom can make a comment on it, but if this is true- it's the reverse import BS all over again! (For those who don't know, Kadokawa occasionally gave ADV and FUNimation bad composite masters so Japanese fans wouldn't be tempted to buy the cheaper USA release.)
One look at the Japanese release tells it all:
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Looking at the comparisons with the French release (5 minutes and 20 seconds in), it still retains ALL the major banding from the FUNimation release, except slightly less noticeable, due to a filter being applied, I assume.

If this is true- BOA better update the list of Kadokawa sending bad masters. Only if there is proper evidence to back it up, though.

I misread that comment over a month ago, thus why I never posted it- now that I've properly read it... it's really something.
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Steins;Gate is on HDCAM-SR and not HDCAM, according to "ViCklatereur" (I know about the american version because I've seen the HDCAM SR that Japan has sent to Funimation.)"

The US BD version of S;G had wrong gamma levels due to an encoding error (this is not a master problem, but a problem that occour while encoding the video to AVC). This error alter the gamma when the file is already at 8bit, so this means that the original banding (still very present in the japanese BD due to how the animation studio produced the anime) became even worse due to lack of precision (same problem you can see, for example, in Serial Experiments Lain US).

In this case, the "reverse import" is a not-existant problem.
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Steins;Gate is on HDCAM-SR and not HDCAM, according to "ViCklatereur" (I know about the american version because I've seen the HDCAM SR that Japan has sent to Funimation.)"

The US BD version of S;G had wrong gamma levels due to an encoding error (this is not a master problem, but a problem that occour while encoding the video to AVC). This error alter the gamma when the file is already at 8bit, so this means that the original banding (still very present in the japanese BD due to how the animation studio produced the anime) became even worse due to lack of precision (same problem you can see, for example, in Serial Experiments Lain US).

In this case, the "reverse import" is a not-existant problem.
I see. That generally makes sense. I guess I did go overboard on my assumptions, as everything all came to me within a very short period of time. Considering Kadokawa's past tendencies, I did make a quick assumption. The wrong Gamma levels falls in line with some of their other errors, like Zankyou no Terror (Terror in Resonance)- and that does generally does seem like a more accurate answer, the amount of banding on the French BD still is more than usual- I'll take your word that's how White Fox produced the series, but I can't imagine they wouldn't fix it for the Japanese BD (given how a typical episode is given 6 to 8 weeks of production right before it airs, banding for broadcast is inevitable- but considering how niche the JP BD market it, it does make sense how they wouldn't fix it in a major way.).
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Can anybody provide a comparison between the Disney and GKids/Shout Factory Blu-rays of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? It's hard to really see a difference using the two existing reviews on the site since neither of them share similar screenshots. I also own the Disney release, and wanna know how improved the transfer actually is.
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Can anybody provide a comparison between the Disney and GKids/Shout Factory Blu-rays of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind?
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