The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 187 - Blu-ray Forum

professorwho · 05-01-2019, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by slerch666

And then you have broadcast which still likes interlaced because it helps with their bandwidth constraints. Different set of problems to solve for and all that.

Yeah. The American broadcast system is outdated and the last episode of Game of Thrones is a perfect example- complex imagery with stylized dark lighting ruined by constant artifacting.

slerch666 · 05-01-2019, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

Yeah. The American broadcast system is outdated and the last episode of Game of Thrones is a perfect example- complex imagery with stylized dark lighting ruined by constant artifacting.

I didn't have that problem.

Because I don't watch it. lol

What I meant was actual broadcast TV though. As in OTA. Everything they do is interlaced because of the limited bandwidth afforded to that signal. They aren't cramming episodes on a disc, just dealing with getting you the proper frame at the proper time without worrying about storage constraints. No storage, no constraints from that perspective I guess.

I believe 1080i is the actual broadcast standard here but not positive.

professorwho · 05-01-2019, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slerch666

I believe 1080i is the actual broadcast standard here but not positive.

It is. Also, it’s encoded via MPEG-2. So, yeah...

Mangaranga · 05-01-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

Lupin III Part IV The Italian Adventure (Japanese cut)
(Discotek, USA)

As for banding- well, it's there. But, it's rarely distracting. It's momentary and as said by Dailyan, mostly in darker shots, so it could be a source issue.

It's a source issue - and something I really hoped would've been filtered for the US release considering how much of it there. It's there on the JP BD (Part IV and Jigen's Gravestone were both filtered by sub groups to eliminate it), as well as the UK BD. I've still got the much better US release coming, but it is disappointing to hear confirmation that it's once again present.

professorwho · 05-01-2019, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangaranga

It's a source issue - and something I really hoped would've been filtered for the US release considering how much of it there. It's there on the JP BD (Part IV and Jigen's Gravestone were both filtered by sub groups to eliminate it), as well as the UK BD. I've still got the much better US release coming, but it is disappointing to hear confirmation that it's once again present.

I don’t think Justin’s ever filtered a master for release... (the only instance I know of him altering a source for BD was the Galaxy Express 999 films, with the fantastic grain overlays)

Mangaranga · 05-01-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

I don’t think Justin’s ever filtered a master for release... (the only instance I know of him altering a source for BD was the Galaxy Express 999 films, with the fantastic grain overlays)

IIRC, he stated that he filtered Umineko for NISA due to the amount of banding in the source.

professorwho · 05-01-2019, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangaranga

IIRC, he stated that he filtered Umineko for NISA due to the amount of banding in the source.

I see. Well, with him doing 2-3 releases per month, he probably wouldn’t have the time to filter Lupin now than if he did it a few years back. Not a jab at anyone, it’s just how things are.

slerch666 · 05-01-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

I see. Well, with him doing 2-3 releases per month, he probably wouldn’t have the time to filter Lupin now than if he did it a few years back. Not a jab at anyone, it’s just how things are.

Probably depends on the release. They seem to give him some leeway on releasing stuff. Figure a week each for GE999 films just to add grain and ignoring all the other time they spent getting colors correct, authoring the discs/menus, subs, etc.

Figure what, 18 plus/minus months spent on Cyborg 009?

If Justin told Discotek top brass he wanted to spend extra time on something, guessing they'd give him that.

jd213 · 05-02-2019, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterKIller

Which version of Sakura Wars (main series) has a best quality? First edition on 6 disc or later resumption from Sentai?

There's Blu-ray releases in Japan, even though the 1st series was done on film it's an upscale (possibly from composite masters), but it might be the best looking unless it was heavily DNRd.

https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...lm-based-anime

It's been a long time since I've seen the OVAs, but they really are no substitute for the games, they're only side stories and are mostly forgettable.

The 1st Saturn game is getting fan translated if you can't understand Japanese, hopefully it will be out soon: sakurawarstranslation.com

kevers7290 · 05-04-2019, 12:36 AM

Will the RightStuf exclusive release of Maquia have a new transfer, or is it the same encode as the previous Shout release?

professorwho · 05-04-2019, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kevers7290

Will the RightStuf exclusive release of Maquia have a new transfer, or is it the same encode as the previous Shout release?

Nobody knows. The disc is different, as it has extras not on the standard Shout release, but I have no clue if the encode is different.

pikagreg · 05-04-2019, 03:30 AM

I don't have high expectations for the new set but the box will be pretty at least lol

RBW34 · 05-04-2019, 05:18 AM

Does anyone have information on the new Clannad release by Filmconfect Home Entertainment? How does it compare to the US, JP and the previous German release?

Robbl · 05-04-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RBW34

Does anyone have information on the new Clannad release by Filmconfect Home Entertainment? How does it compare to the US, JP and the previous German release?

Same discs as the previous german release. Quality wise your best bet is watching it on anime-on-demand.

professorwho · 05-05-2019, 10:51 PM

For those curious, the Dynit release of Mirai is a 1:1 clone of the Japanese video encode. (Which itself isn't perfect being "full of compression artifacts," according to a user who PM'd me said screencaps.)

Enigmo_1 · 05-07-2019, 10:35 PM

Anyone know what the process was behind Discotek's release of Kyo Kara Maoh! on Blu-ray?

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/134850

It's a digital anime but the Blu-ray is so much better than the DVD.

I guess the R1 DVD shown there was just very bad, while the R2J DVD is great and more or less that was the source footage upscaled to BD?

professorwho · 05-07-2019, 10:37 PM

The show was native 1080i.

Enigmo_1 · 05-07-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

The show was native 1080i.

huh? all the way back in 2004? how'd you find out?

BigOnAnime · 05-07-2019, 11:50 PM

Geneon also likely received bad masters because back then, their DVDs usually looked the best. So for something from them to look that bad, it likely has to do with the masters they received, no idea who the international rightsholder is.

professorwho · 05-08-2019, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigmo_1

huh? all the way back in 2004? how'd you find out?

The compressionist told me. And yes, it's that guy you're a big fan of.

(Sarcastic)

05-04-2019, 12:36 AM	#3730
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	Will the RightStuf exclusive release of Maquia have a new transfer, or is it the same encode as the previous Shout release?

05-04-2019, 03:30 AM	#3732
pikagreg Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2014 Location:Southern California Trading Score:13	I don't have high expectations for the new set but the box will be pretty at least lol

05-04-2019, 05:18 AM	#3733
RBW34 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2019	Does anyone have information on the new Clannad release by Filmconfect Home Entertainment? How does it compare to the US, JP and the previous German release?

05-05-2019, 10:51 PM	#3735
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	For those curious, the Dynit release of Mirai is a 1:1 clone of the Japanese video encode. (Which itself isn't perfect being "full of compression artifacts," according to a user who PM'd me said screencaps.)

05-07-2019, 10:35 PM	#3736
Enigmo_1 Active Member Member since:Jul 2018	Anyone know what the process was behind Discotek's release of Kyo Kara Maoh! on Blu-ray? http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/134850 It's a digital anime but the Blu-ray is so much better than the DVD. I guess the R1 DVD shown there was just very bad, while the R2J DVD is great and more or less that was the source footage upscaled to BD?

05-07-2019, 10:37 PM	#3737
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	The show was native 1080i.

05-07-2019, 11:50 PM	#3739
BigOnAnime Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Minnesota, USA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:671 DVD collection:714	Geneon also likely received bad masters because back then, their DVDs usually looked the best. So for something from them to look that bad, it likely has to do with the masters they received, no idea who the international rightsholder is.

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