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King Crimson · 09-11-2021, 12:23 PM

What's the general consensus of funimations release of FLCL and what is considered the best English friendly release of the series?

BigOnAnime · 09-11-2021, 01:29 PM

Ever since I first saw the screenshots over 10 years ago well before I knew much about video quality, I hated it and it immediately made me get off the "Blu-ray is always better" train. I've had a burning hatred for smeary upscales ever since, I absolutely cannot stand them in the slightest. I'd personally rather get the Synch-Point DVDs, though those have problems as well, that being aliasing and artifacting. There were screenshots back on the Mania AnimeOnDVD forums, but those are long gone.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/FLCL-...2/#Screenshots

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Originally Posted by hissatsu

https://web.archive.org/web/20110519....php?p=1906418

Not much care was put into FLCL's Blu-ray release, like in Japan, it was packaged like a box of snacks. This is quite literally how it was released there.

SpazeBlue · 09-11-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

What's the general consensus of funimations release of FLCL and what is considered the best English friendly release of the series?

Here's some comparison caps with the DVD:

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Originally Posted by vincentric

BigOnAnime · 09-11-2021, 02:45 PM

Something to keep in mind, when something is released on Blu-ray and DVD at the same time here, typically the DVDs are downscaled from the Blu-ray masters, so if the Blu-rays have problems, those will carry over to the DVDs. A perfect example is Shakugan no Shana S1-S2, FUNimation used the awful Japanese Blu-ray masters and downscaled them for the DVDs rather than using the Japanese DVD masters which are superior.

Naiera · 09-11-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

What's the general consensus of funimations release of FLCL and what is considered the best English friendly release of the series?

The second JP release.

Naiera · 09-11-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Not much care was put into FLCL's Blu-ray release, like in Japan, it was packaged like a box of snacks. This is quite literally how it was released there.

The second release is a perfectly normal slipbox with (as far as I remember) a digipak inside.

professorwho · 09-11-2021, 06:20 PM

All the Blu-rays of FLCL are utter crap. The JP DVDs are the best release. While far from reference quality, they lack the major drawbacks of the Blu-rays. That said, audio and extras are superior on other releases, so the NA BD is worth owning for the subbed commentary tracks alone.

Code:

https://slow.pics/c/hGj4a7WU

BigOnAnime · 09-11-2021, 06:46 PM

I never looked into it, but FUNimation has extras that weren't on the Synch-Point DVDs?

Naiera · 09-11-2021, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Collector FX

Probably what most people prefer anyway.

Eeew

Naiera · 09-11-2021, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Collector FX

I like what the Germans did with the Welcome to the NHK upscale BD, looks very good.

I'm generally not into subbing entire series, but NHK could be an exception!

The Collector FX · 09-11-2021, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Naiera

Eeew

Lol you know I prefer subs. I was referring to the general English speaking population

Mangaranga · 09-11-2021, 10:59 PM

I'm not going to waste too much time on this - just don't buy it. Viz have been shitting out discs of this quality since K Seven Kings. Despite taking feedback on board to fix their colour space issue previously, this time they evidently have no interest in fixing things. Banding, blocking, incorrect gamma, awful compression - this release has it all. This image is a pretty good example of what you can expect, and I've uploaded a sample clip here so you can see this abomination in motion.

To make things even more amusing, the raw files on disc are 7gb each with a reported bitrate of 35mbps. Scavenger however pointed out that these are actually padded out to an extreme degree, and remuxing to an MKV shows the true bitrate...

m2ts

MKV

AreaFive · 09-11-2021, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangaranga

remuxing to an MKV shows the true bitrate..

kk1 · 09-11-2021, 11:57 PM

Wasn't going to get In/Spectre anyway but knowing that makes it even easier. Just hope Viz doesn't get anymore Crunchy titles, well except the other crappy ones like God of High School, etc.

King Crimson · 09-12-2021, 12:13 AM

Is there any reported issues with there JoJo sets? I own most of the standard sets, not the gift sets and they look pretty good, haven't watched part 5 yet.

BoopityBoop · 09-12-2021, 12:14 AM

I was thinking of picking up In/Spectre at some point, but I held off given how Osomatsu turned out. Looks like I made the right call. Hopefully they can fix whatever's going on/find a new authoring house before they release Jujustu Kaisen, or that could be a real shitshow...

Member-571539 · 09-12-2021, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BoopityBoop

I was thinking of picking up In/Spectre at some point, but I held off given how Osomatsu turned out. Looks like I made the right call. Hopefully they can fix whatever's going on/find a new authoring house before they release Jujustu Kaisen, or that could be a real shitshow...

I wouldn’t hold my breath…

The Collector FX · 09-12-2021, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mangaranga

I'm not going to waste too much time on this - just don't buy it. Viz have been shitting out discs of this quality since K Seven Kings. Despite taking feedback on board to fix their colour space issue previously, this time they evidently have no interest in fixing things. Banding, blocking, incorrect gamma, awful compression - this release has it all. This image is a pretty good example of what you can expect, and I've uploaded a sample clip here so you can see this abomination in motion.

So what you're saying is that by extension of this, Jujitsu Kaisen is f***ed...

pikagreg · 09-12-2021, 03:49 AM

People weren't shitting on the Jojo/HxH sets from what I remember other than the normal color space issues but I remember K and I think Castlevania was also really bad.

Naiera · 09-12-2021, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Collector FX

Lol you know I prefer subs. I was referring to the general English speaking population

I speak the englishes better than most of thems

09-11-2021, 06:20 PM	#6207
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	All the Blu-rays of FLCL are utter crap. The JP DVDs are the best release. While far from reference quality, they lack the major drawbacks of the Blu-rays. That said, audio and extras are superior on other releases, so the NA BD is worth owning for the subbed commentary tracks alone. Code: https://slow.pics/c/hGj4a7WU

09-11-2021, 10:59 PM	#6212
Mangaranga Senior Member Member since:Oct 2014	In/Spectre - Viz Media I'm not going to waste too much time on this - just don't buy it. Viz have been shitting out discs of this quality since K Seven Kings. Despite taking feedback on board to fix their colour space issue previously, this time they evidently have no interest in fixing things. Banding, blocking, incorrect gamma, awful compression - this release has it all. This image is a pretty good example of what you can expect, and I've uploaded a sample clip here so you can see this abomination in motion. To make things even more amusing, the raw files on disc are 7gb each with a reported bitrate of 35mbps. Scavenger however pointed out that these are actually padded out to an extreme degree, and remuxing to an MKV shows the true bitrate... m2ts MKV Last edited by Mangaranga; 09-11-2021 at 11:07 PM.

09-11-2021, 12:23 PM	#6201
King Crimson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:32	What's the general consensus of funimations release of FLCL and what is considered the best English friendly release of the series?

09-11-2021, 02:45 PM	#6204
BigOnAnime Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Minnesota, USA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:671 DVD collection:714	Something to keep in mind, when something is released on Blu-ray and DVD at the same time here, typically the DVDs are downscaled from the Blu-ray masters, so if the Blu-rays have problems, those will carry over to the DVDs. A perfect example is Shakugan no Shana S1-S2, FUNimation used the awful Japanese Blu-ray masters and downscaled them for the DVDs rather than using the Japanese DVD masters which are superior.

09-11-2021, 06:46 PM	#6208
BigOnAnime Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Minnesota, USA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:671 DVD collection:714	I never looked into it, but FUNimation has extras that weren't on the Synch-Point DVDs?

09-11-2021, 11:57 PM	#6214
kk1 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2015 Blu-ray collection:610	Wasn't going to get In/Spectre anyway but knowing that makes it even easier. Just hope Viz doesn't get anymore Crunchy titles, well except the other crappy ones like God of High School, etc.

09-12-2021, 12:13 AM	#6215
King Crimson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:32	Is there any reported issues with there JoJo sets? I own most of the standard sets, not the gift sets and they look pretty good, haven't watched part 5 yet.

09-12-2021, 12:14 AM	#6216
BoopityBoop Active Member Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Canada	I was thinking of picking up In/Spectre at some point, but I held off given how Osomatsu turned out. Looks like I made the right call. Hopefully they can fix whatever's going on/find a new authoring house before they release Jujustu Kaisen, or that could be a real shitshow...

09-12-2021, 03:49 AM	#6219
pikagreg Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2014 Location:Southern California Trading Score:13	People weren't shitting on the Jojo/HxH sets from what I remember other than the normal color space issues but I remember K and I think Castlevania was also really bad.

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