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The only thing that stuck out was the scanner noise in the picture. The scanner noise is not too distracting, but BGC sure could use a new film scan with better tech. I also checked the bitrates of OVA #2 and #3. These target similar bitrates - OVA #2 bitrate - AVG: 14996 kbps | MAX: 20220 kbps ![]() - OVA #3 bitrate - AVG: 14998 kbps | MAX: 19801 kbps ![]() |
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Thanks given by: | Naiera (10-10-2018), professorwho (10-10-2018) |
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Since I see some discutions about the quality of the authoring for the movie Night is short, here is the details for the UK/FR release by @anime.
Mediinfo : [Show spoiler] 26.4 MBPS for the video bitrate is not "bad" but could be better, if I remember correctly the JP version is much much higher, I don't remember the numbers but it was something like 38-39Mbps? Also you can see on the screenshot that there is instances where colorbanding is clearly visible. https://imgur.com/a/wVO7O5t the authoring was done by the french authoring studio Com'on Screen. Note : I didn't search for JP screenshot, so I can't compare those 2 releases to see if the color/gamma level is the same. |
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Thanks given by: | NLScavenger (10-10-2018), professorwho (10-10-2018) |
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Drifters from Universal Europe.
Mediainfo : [Show spoiler] All the episodes have almost the same setting, ~5Go, and around 25 Mbps in video + 4 dubs tracks. Funfact only the english dub is in DTS 5.1, the other only have a poor lossy DTS at 765 Kbps, yep even the Japanese track. In term of video quality well, with only ~ 25Mbps average no miracle is possible, unless you've got a good compressionist, wich is not the case here, there's a lot of banding in the dark scenes, and we all know that Drifters is most of the time dark scenes so the banding is alway there. The image is quite grainy as well, wich is not a problem at all, the master is the same, shame the grain did not attenuate the banding problem (well, it does but not enough). The serie is splitted on 2 BD50, each disc have 6 episodes on them, shame it does not use the full space, only ~36Go is used for the dirst Blu-ray, and ~40Go for the second. Here the screengrabs : https://imgur.com/a/NR3esUV The italian Blu-ray by Dynit is probably the best outside of Japan since the serie is splitted on 3 BD, unfortunatly I don't have that edition so I can't compare. |
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Thanks given by: | Gorgon (10-13-2018), Naiera (10-13-2018), NLScavenger (10-13-2018), professorwho (10-13-2018), Robbl (10-14-2018) |
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Now that I have the Bitrate Viewer application working, I re-did a scan on the first episode of Legend of the Galactic Heroes. (Along with Mediainfo for the other bits)
Video: 1080i PMEG-4 AVC 29.97 fps 1.33:1 Aspect Ratio encoded into a 1.78:1 frame 21617 kbps AVG (21.61 mbps) 37351 kbps MAX (37.35 mbps) 3.75 GB Audio: Japanese DTS HD-MA 5.1 24-Bit 48kHz 4418 kbps 762 mb One weird thing, all the text that was onscreen- and by onscreen, I mean burnt into the video- like credits- that was redone for the Blu-ray. Really weird. Really clear credits on top of SD upscaled footage. Also, you know how in the second half of the first OP, it shows the faces of all the main characters in the Galactic Empire? Well, there's a fade between one and the other in the original LD/VHS version. Here, it looks like those frames are either missing, or it's done really poorly. Like, you can see them fade, then their face shows up again for a frame or two, and then they disappear. It looks really weird, and is probably a result of ghosting due to the constant 29.97 frame rate. And other ghosting artifacts occasionally show up. OP oddness aside, the upscaling is still very good. The SD transfer must've been good, as there is very little print damage, though small specs do occasionally show up. Although, there isn't as much grain as I'd expect for a film production- maybe there was some DNR applied, maybe not. There is fine grain, almost like it were a 35mm production, but I'm not sure if it was or not, so I can't say for sure. However, the image is very soft. it's odd, but it looks presentable, aside from the atrocious interlacing artifacts that take you out of the scene occasionally. I don't know how to describe it, but there are shots where it looks like a conversion of 2D to 3D video. Like, there are layers of depth that stand out. Maybe someone here would like to take a look? PM me if you're interested, and I can help with some areas. At first glance, it's a good upscale of a good condition SD transfer, but there are a ton of oddities that distract from the experience, and baffle me in what the team working on the DVD and Blu-ray releases were thinking. I really can't give a numerical score, it's just so weird. |
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Thanks given by: | NLScavenger (10-18-2018) |
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Took another look at Kyousougiga from Discotek, as I never did a proper write-up on it. Just summarized my thoughts on it in a paragraph or two.
Disc size: 44 GB Specs for the ONA series (on disc 1): Video: 1080i MPEG-4 AVC 29.97 fps 1.78:1 Aspect Ratio 24950 kbps AVG (24.95 mbps) 47489 kbps MAX (47.48 mbps) 12 GB Audio: Japanese LPCM 2.0 16-Bit 48kHz 1536 kbps 757 mb Specs for TV series Episodes 1-5: Video: 1080i MPEG-4 AVC 29.97 fps 1.78:1 Aspect Ratio 24965 kbps AVG (mbps) 48337 kbps MAX (mbps) 27.1 GB Audio: Japanese LPCM 2.0 16-Bit 48kHz 1536 kbps 1.67 GB When people say, "everything by Toei Animation is badly animated"- you show them Kyousougiga. They then take back their statement. Anyways, it's 1080i, and unlike LOTGH which kind of had a reason for the interlacing- the re-animated scenes were probably 30i- there really isn't one here. Discotek used what they were given by Toei, and it's not as pristine as you'd hope. Justin confirmed as such, and knowing that, I won't be as harsh, but that doesn't excuse poor encoding... if there was some. Yes, Kyousougiga has banding. Being a series with great cinematography, and lush shots with intense colour grading, you want as little banding as possible- or, none at all, if possible. I would assume this is a source issue, as while there is banding, it is very subtle at points- to the point where you would have to look for it- I assume this is Justin applying filters to lessen it. Unless you de-band every frame, it can't be removed. However, while mp3dom has the ability to, due to Dynit being a smaller publisher, Discotek, while also a small publisher, has more releases, and Justin does the Answerman articles on ANN. As such, this is the best that could be done given the circumstances. But those are when it is subtle. When it's visible, oh god is it ugly. Playing it back with VLC just makes it worse, so I'm not gonna provide any "definitive" screenshots, but I did take some months ago, albeit in VLC because I'm lazy and don't want to set up a better program. There is zero aliasing, nor macroblocking. Overall, I'm satisfied with the presentation. Not perfect, but the source wasn't, and Justin doesn't have all the time to de-band frame by frame, so I'll give it an 8/10, given the source. If rated without that, it's maybe a 7/10. Audio is LPCM 2.0, and it's perfect. Zero compression, no hissing, nothing wrong. 10/10 The extras are great. Yeah- EXTRAS. Discotek has the ONA series, the TV series, the 2 TV specials with the seiyuu, along with previews, commercials, trailers, creditless OPs and EDs, and sponsor cards. They're not huge behind-the-scenes type stuff, but when FUNi and Sentai put out sets with just the creditless OP and ED, it's great to acknowledge when a publisher goes the extra mile and adds all they were given access to. Overall, it's a great buy. I got mine for $13 on eBay when sellers were selling it that low on some random day, and it was worth it. It's a series few people have heard of, and it deserves some recognition. Video isn't perfect like the audio, but it's a source issue. The extras are great, as is the show. A must own! |
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Thanks given by: | NLScavenger (10-19-2018) |
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Only 6 episodes (five 10 minutes episodes and the first OVA) where online episodes only, the main serie (10 episodes) was a completly standard TV show.
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Ok, I just thought they might have reused some footage from the ONA or something like that, but if they didn't and the whole process was different from the regular show then...huh. Anyways, was just curious don't know anything about encoding or authoring, but I always find the discussions interesting. ![]() |
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Also since it's the same studio behind the ONAs (Web episodes) and the TV serie, the footage from both are more than probably in the same quality, the broadcast quality of the ONAs was not "great" but the source material for them from Toei are in excellent quality (because the Japanese Blu-ray are top notch). |
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http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/122801/ The old one is better, but it's rather marginal. It could use a new scan, but in my opinion it's still very watchable since despite, or perhaps due to its softness, it's very natural and easy on the eyes and is mostly free of digital artifacts like aliasing and sharpening and the general dullness and harshness plaguing many transfers of similar vintage like Patlabor TV, Nadesico, the old Cardcaptor Sakura one and more. The scanner noise is there, but it is very fine and just barely noticeable for the most part. |
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Thanks given by: | Ccharmanderk (10-22-2018), kevers7290 (10-22-2018), NLScavenger (10-21-2018), professorwho (10-21-2018) |
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Well, I'll be damned. That's very impressive. I figured there'd be a far more disparity between the two releases, moving from 3 discs to 1, but I'm having trouble noticing anything aside from slightly more naturally-resolved grain in the old release.
Good on ya, AnimEigo. Might pick up the Disctopia release one of these days. |
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Thanks given by: | professorwho (10-22-2018) |
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Got given a screenshot from Saga of Tanya the Evil US release, and compared that single shot to my JP copy.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/122893 I don't know what I expected from FUNi. |
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Thanks given by: | professorwho (10-23-2018) |
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