The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by professorwho

NANI?! Anime reviews not by the guy who's bad at it?!

Going by the screenshots provided, it appears that it's using the same black crushed encodes as the original release. Yay.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Mangaranga

Going by the screenshots provided, it appears that it's using the same black crushed encodes as the original release. Yay.

Same discs, same encode.

[Robbl]

Does anyone have the Sentai Made in Abyss release? I'd be interested in how it stacks up to the German release.

[NLScavenger]

Mind Game – GKIDS/Shout Factory

Screenshots

BDinfo:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     MINDGAME
Disc Size:      48.911.285.558 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 1:43:10.750 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   30.305.445.888 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39,16 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        35000 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2172 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2172 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         17,097 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20,499 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          18,824 kbps

Bitrate viewer:

AVG: 35000 kbps | MAX: 44207 kbps | MIN: 25088 kbps

Mind Game - Japanese BD

Screenshots (gallery link was found on a private tracker)

BDInfo:

Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 23,022,182,400 bytes
Length: 1:43:07.000
Total Bitrate: 29.77 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 18867 kbps / 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 6912 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
Subtitle: English / 63.997 kbps
Subtitle: French / 53.930 kbps
Subtitle: Spanish / 45.283 kbps

Screenshot comparison:
US 1 | JP 1
US 2 | JP 2
US 3 | JP 3
US 4 | JP 4
US 5 | JP 5
US 6 | JP 6
US 7 | JP 7
US 8 | JP 8

I’ve heard that there is a crapload of color banding on the JP BD and this holds true for the US BD. Unfortunately I cannot find screenshots that show the banding on the JP BD, but I’m going to assume that the banding is baked directly into the master. Anyway, the US BD comes out slightly better in this comparison (#1 and #3 in particular).

The US BD also has more extras than the UK BD. In addition to the galleries from the UK BD, GKIDS also opted to include select scenes with director commentary (30 min, upscaled) and a feature length animatic (1080p).

The feature length animatic is the main feature with a burnt in picture-in-picture on the bottom right corner. The file size is much smaller than the main feature:

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00104.MPLS
Length:                 1:43:10.750 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   12.858.550.272 bytes
Total Bitrate:          16,62 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        13992 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        1565 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1565 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         17,097 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20,499 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          18,824 kbps

[Mangaranga]

I posted about this elsewhere the at the end of last week, but the UK release of Fireworks (which seems to be the GKids disc) uses the theatrical version of the movie rather than the home video version. In reality though, from skimming through bits of the movie there doesn't seem to be anything major for the most part considering the lackluster animation anyway. There's some slight CG changes (placements wise), redraws, lighting changes and a CG scene framing change. Here's some (but definitely not all) examples of changes I've noticed, and not all of them are positive changes either.

GKIDS
1
2
3
4
5
6

JPN
1
2
3
4
5
6

Just for confirmation's sake as well, that last comparison isn't the wrong way around. For quite a few cuts/scenes I've noticed that their idea of changing the lighting is just to crush blacks in the entire image. As another negative side effect it also makes the dodgy 3DCG tables stand out more.

[Thedoctor2016]

Whats AL's Geass like if you have that?

[Yuripa]

The UK @animeLtd release use GKIDS discs?
So I suppose no french audio/sub on those, Would be interesting to see if the french version from All the anime use the theatrical or Home video master.

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by Yuripa

The UK @animeLtd release use GKIDS discs?
So I suppose no french audio/sub on those, Would be interesting to see if the french version from All the anime use the theatrical or Home video master.

Can't remember off the top of my head whether it has French audio or not, but it has French subtitles.
(Confirmation - it has English Signs/Songs, Full Subtitles for the JP track, Dubtitles and French Subtitles)

Originally Posted by Thedoctor2016

Whats AL's Geass like if you have that?

I don't I'm afraid. It was done by the same authoring house who handled Amanchu and the first Season of March Comes in Like a Lion though.
I'm personally interested to have a look at it from an A/V perspective, but not enough to spend £20 on a sub only compilation movie.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Mangaranga

I don't I'm afraid. It was done by the same authoring house who handled Amanchu and the first Season of March Comes in Like a Lion though.

That's why we were curious... wait, what?!

Sagatsu no Lion isn't a clone?!

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by professorwho

That's why we were curious... wait, what?!

Sagatsu no Lion isn't a clone?!

They reused Aniplex's materials, so A/V wise it is indeed a clone.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Mangaranga

They reused Aniplex's materials, so A/V wise it is indeed a clone.

Okay, I see. It really is authoring. Generally people use “authoring” to also talk about encoding, so I assumed it was the latter.

[Blazing-star]

Originally Posted by Robbl

Does anyone have the Sentai Made in Abyss release? I'd be interested in how it stacks up to the German release.

It does have banding similar to the German release. I've compared it to this comparison from an earlier post:
https://diff.pics/e03Jf8eRZj7d/4

The imgur pictures you posted before, did you have the brightness turned up to show the banding more clearly?

https://imgur.com/a/r2InFQm

[Robbl]

Originally Posted by Blazing-star

The imgur pictures you posted before, did you have the brightness turned up to show the banding more clearly?

https://imgur.com/a/r2InFQm

Yes, I did.

[Blazing-star]

Originally Posted by Robbl

Yes, I did.

I'm trying to take pics of the tv at the places you did in episode 5-6, but it's not that easy, the colours are different on my setup. From what I'm seeing the banding is there on the Sentai release but maybe slightly less.

[Lambadelta]

Obviously the answer is. Buy the japanese release ;3

[Yuripa]

Originally Posted by Blazing-star

I'm trying to take pics of the tv at the places you did in episode 5-6, but it's not that easy, the colours are different on my setup. From what I'm seeing the banding is there on the Sentai release but maybe slightly less.

No need to take pictures of your TV, it's completly useless since it's absolutely not representative of what the real pictures quality is.
Just wait until someone with a PC Blu-ray player and correct software take accurate screengrabs.

[pikagreg]

What do you guys do to check stats? I have a BD player on my PC but never really looked into it since I am not as big a videophile as a lot of you guys but I wouldn't mind checking info on some things for you guys.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by pikagreg

What do you guys do to check stats? I have a BD player on my PC but never really looked into it since I am not as big a videophile as a lot of you guys but I wouldn't mind checking info on some things for you guys.

I rip with MakeMKV and use a combination of MediaInfo and Bitrate Viewer.

Media Info for audio specs, and Bitrate viewer for video specs.

[pikagreg]

Originally Posted by professorwho

I rip with MakeMKV and use a combination of MediaInfo and Bitrate Viewer.

Media Info for audio specs, and Bitrate viewer for video specs.

Cool I was interested in checking out exactly how bad the US Metropolis steelbook is lol

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by pikagreg

Cool I was interested in checking out exactly how bad the US Metropolis steelbook is lol

MediaInfo gives you a video bitrate as well, but it's not accurate- it gives a rounded number and doesn't account for spikes over 40 mbps. That's why I've had to re-do some specs on the database here.