The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 161 - Blu-ray Forum

professorwho · 02-14-2019, 11:11 AM

Well, looks like we’re finally getting a native 4K anime with HDR from Production I.G and Netflix. So far, this is the only one I can confirm as the first. There are others which are reportedly 4K, but without knowing/seeing it, I can’t tell.

Gouki · 02-14-2019, 05:28 PM

"From Netflix In 2016, the animation work of some that have been produced in SDR, has been delivered and re-mastered in HDR, the current "BLAME!", "GODZILLA monster planet", anime such as "Shikio people" It has to offer in the HDR.

In addition, original animation work plan to deliver 2019 as "ULTRAMAN" "Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac" also, the delivery schedule in the HDR."

Can't say I'm super excited about any of these.

professorwho · 02-14-2019, 05:32 PM

Neither am I, but seeing IG go for native 4K and HDR is nice and worth posting.

Gouki · 02-14-2019, 06:33 PM

Sad part is I'll probably have to import whatever they make, as I don't really see a US release happening unless they tout the "First to 4k" angle.

I'm all about that HDR.

professorwho · 02-14-2019, 09:49 PM

Anime UHDs may never be a thing here. Unless Ghibli comes to UHD, I highly doubt we'll get any here.

professorwho · 02-18-2019, 07:20 PM

Here’s why anime on UHD will probably never take off... because most of them are DNR’d to death. TMS... WTF are you thinking with all that DNR?!

Dailyan · 02-18-2019, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by professorwho

[Show spoiler]

Here’s why anime on UHD will probably never take off... because most of them are DNR’d to death. TMS... WTF are you thinking with all that DNR?!

Tokyo Movie Shinsha? More like To Make Shit

LexInHD · 02-18-2019, 07:41 PM

The Japanese film restoration industry is still in it's infancy and they don't have best practices established yet. That being said, they tend to favor clarity and sharpness over what others would deem a proper appearance.

husky1993a · 02-19-2019, 07:59 PM

Got my Steelbook of Land of the Lustrous in the mail today. All three Audio tracks are 24 bit DTS-HD MA 2.0, and there are two Spanish subtitle tracks, assuming one with just the signs/lyrics and the other with a full script translation.

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 25 min 17 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 21.4 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.430
Stream size : 3.78 GiB (67%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray

First Episode Bitrate stats.

NLScavenger · 02-21-2019, 02:53 PM

Cowboy Bebop - Dybex BD vs Funimation BD

Already posted a comparison of Funimation BD and the caps-a-holic.com Dybex BD before, but I've made a few more screenshots now that I own the Dybex BD. Needless to say, I won't be touching the Funimation BD again.

Dybex BD

Funimation BD

Worth mentioning that the menus on each disc have a neat unique video with a different theme and music. Here's the video for disc 1:

The Dybex BD is by the way region B locked:

professorwho · 02-21-2019, 03:01 PM

Okay. I need this set. Now. If the Italian version has the same menus, then I’m getting it once it’s back in stock on Amazon IT.

wesslan · 02-21-2019, 03:27 PM

Very nice work with the comparison. So where to best find the Dybex version, is it only germany and is the IT version just as good? And yes I need english subs on it.

professorwho · 02-21-2019, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

Very nice work with the comparison. So where to best find the Dybex version?

Amazon FR. No English support, though (the BD that is).

NLScavenger · 02-21-2019, 03:39 PM

I picked it up from Anime Store. Anime Store is also selling it on their Amazon.fr storefront at a much higher price. I dunno if they deduct VAT for buyers outside the EU.

Dybex version was also released in Germany, but it's only sold by Akibapass and peppermint anime Amazon.de storefront. I don't think they ship outside Germany/Austria.

NLScavenger · 02-21-2019, 05:38 PM

For comparison sake here's the menu movie of Funimation disc 1...

...and here's the menu movie of Dybex disc 4:

professorwho · 02-21-2019, 05:59 PM

Now, the FUNi menu isn’t bad by any means- I like that it has the iconic music and some animated text rather than a still image... but DAMN. The Dybex Bebop set has like the best menus I’ve seen on a Blu-ray.

I miss the days of cool and experimental menus... that was the cool thing about DVDs back in the day, but now it’s just a static image with either some atmospheric music or none at all (Warner Bros comes to mind).

Dailyan · 02-21-2019, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by professorwho

Now, the FUNi menu isn’t bad by any means- I like that it has the iconic music and some animated text rather than a still image... but DAMN. The Dybex Bebop set has like the best menus I’ve seen on a Blu-ray.

I miss the days of cool and experimental menus... that was the cool thing about DVDs back in the day, but now it’s just a static image with either some atmospheric music or none at all (Warner Bros comes to mind).

Personally, I don’t care for fancy menus. If I can pop the disc in and goes right to the menu then that’s fine by me.

husky1993a · 02-23-2019, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Personally, I don’t care for fancy menus. If I can pop the disc in and goes right to the menu then that’s fine by me.

Ideally yeah. I hate getting bombarded with dozens of logos and trailers before the menu kicks in.

professorwho · 02-23-2019, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husky1993a

Ideally yeah. I hate getting bombarded with dozens of logos and trailers before the menu kicks in.

I agree on getting to it quick, but my main point was about the menu itself- most come off as cheap and lazy; but there's a minimalist charm to some.

Dailyan · 02-23-2019, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by professorwho

most come off as cheap and lazy;

Just like how I prefer my anime

02-19-2019, 07:59 PM	#3209
husky1993a Member Member since:Feb 2017 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:109 DVD collection:3	Got my Steelbook of Land of the Lustrous in the mail today. All three Audio tracks are 24 bit DTS-HD MA 2.0, and there are two Spanish subtitle tracks, assuming one with just the signs/lyrics and the other with a full script translation. Video ID : 1 ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011) Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, RefFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 25 min 17 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 21.4 Mb/s Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(PixelFrame) : 0.430 Stream size : 3.78 GiB (67%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Original source medium : Blu-ray First Episode Bitrate stats. Last edited by husky1993a; 02-19-2019 at 08:11 PM. Reason: Editing*

02-14-2019, 11:11 AM	#3201
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Well, looks like we’re finally getting a native 4K anime with HDR from Production I.G and Netflix. So far, this is the only one I can confirm as the first. There are others which are reportedly 4K, but without knowing/seeing it, I can’t tell.

02-14-2019, 05:28 PM	#3202
Gouki Special Member Member since:Apr 2010 Trading Score:5	"From Netflix In 2016, the animation work of some that have been produced in SDR, has been delivered and re-mastered in HDR, the current "BLAME!", "GODZILLA monster planet", anime such as "Shikio people" It has to offer in the HDR. In addition, original animation work plan to deliver 2019 as "ULTRAMAN" "Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac" also, the delivery schedule in the HDR." Can't say I'm super excited about any of these.

02-14-2019, 05:32 PM	#3203
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Neither am I, but seeing IG go for native 4K and HDR is nice and worth posting.

02-14-2019, 06:33 PM	#3204
Gouki Special Member Member since:Apr 2010 Trading Score:5	Sad part is I'll probably have to import whatever they make, as I don't really see a US release happening unless they tout the "First to 4k" angle. I'm all about that HDR.

02-14-2019, 09:49 PM	#3205
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Anime UHDs may never be a thing here. Unless Ghibli comes to UHD, I highly doubt we'll get any here.

02-18-2019, 07:41 PM	#3208
LexInHD Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:226	The Japanese film restoration industry is still in it's infancy and they don't have best practices established yet. That being said, they tend to favor clarity and sharpness over what others would deem a proper appearance.

02-21-2019, 03:01 PM	#3211
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Okay. I need this set. Now. If the Italian version has the same menus, then I’m getting it once it’s back in stock on Amazon IT.

02-21-2019, 03:27 PM	#3212
wesslan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Sweden Blu-ray reviews:1	Very nice work with the comparison. So where to best find the Dybex version, is it only germany and is the IT version just as good? And yes I need english subs on it.

02-21-2019, 03:39 PM	#3214
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	I picked it up from Anime Store. Anime Store is also selling it on their Amazon.fr storefront at a much higher price. I dunno if they deduct VAT for buyers outside the EU. Dybex version was also released in Germany, but it's only sold by Akibapass and peppermint anime Amazon.de storefront. I don't think they ship outside Germany/Austria.

02-21-2019, 05:59 PM	#3216
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Now, the FUNi menu isn’t bad by any means- I like that it has the iconic music and some animated text rather than a still image... but DAMN. The Dybex Bebop set has like the best menus I’ve seen on a Blu-ray. I miss the days of cool and experimental menus... that was the cool thing about DVDs back in the day, but now it’s just a static image with either some atmospheric music or none at all (Warner Bros comes to mind).

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