The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by slerch666

Stupid question.

Anyone make a plugin for media players that could fake grain? I realize it's not as good as tuning it to the content but could be a cheaters way to fix some of the discs if no one does for the encode.

MadVR in JRiver does some really good on the fly fixes for things like dot crawl, etc when you really start digging. It definitely is not perfect but can make some older only-on-DVD stuff more watchable.

You can make an avisynth script with fake grain plugin and run the script in a media player.

GrainFactory3 + required plugins AddGrainC and MaskTools2

Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth\plugins\x86\ffms2.dll")
Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth\plugins\AddGrainC-1.7.1\win32\AddGrainC.dll")
Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth\plugins\masktools2-v2.2.18\x86\masktools2.dll")
FFmpegSource2("D:\Video\backup\00002.m2ts", atrack=-1)
grainfactory3(g1str=30, g2str=30, g3str=30, g1size=2, g2size=2, g3size=2)
AddGrainC(1.25,1.25)

Original, without fake grain:

[Robbl]

If you're getting into filtering I suggest starting with VapourSynth instead of AviSynth.

[professorwho]

To anyone who has any of the Blu-ray versions of Horus: Prince of the Sun- how bad is it? It’s Toei, who keeps their stuff in poor shape, and it’s an upscale. I might get the Discotek release if it’s an improvement over the DVD, but I’ve heard poor things about the picture quality.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by professorwho

To anyone who has any of the Blu-ray versions of Horus: Prince of the Sun- how bad is it? It’s Toei, who keeps their stuff in poor shape, and it’s an upscale. I might get the Discotek release if it’s an improvement over the DVD, but I’ve heard poor things about the picture quality.

The Blu Ray is an upscale of the DVD that was an upscale of the Laserdisc.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

The Blu Ray is an upscale of the DVD that was an upscale of the Laserdisc.

Oof. Then I’ll just get the DVD...

[slerch666]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

The Blu Ray is an upscale of the DVD that was an upscale of the Laserdisc.

Ffffff

And we thought Funimation was bad lol

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by slerch666

Ffffff

And we thought Funimation was bad lol

Toei are terrible. They can’t seem to do anything right. (I’d list some examples, but there’s too many to list)

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by professorwho

Toei are terrible. They can’t seem to do anything right. (I’d list some examples, but there’s too many to list)

I must mention when they took advantage of Smore Entertainment having never released anime before and how they sent them Bobobo with subtitle scripts in pdf and Galaxy Express 999 with hard-coded subtitles, then Smore ended up releasing it all anyway cuz what was done was done.

Toei is horrific lmao

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

The Blu Ray is an upscale of the DVD that was an upscale of the Laserdisc.

I was linked this on Twitter, and it's actually not an upscale. It's just been Q-Tec'd from a scan of an interpositive.

[themp3000]

Anyone pick up Yamibou on blu yet? How’s it look? I’d like to hope the cause of the long delay would mean a better product but Media Blasters sure is a thing.

[Nostalgic Twilight]

See here.

[themp3000]

Originally Posted by Nostalgic Twilight

See here.

Thanks, I wasn’t searching it properly I think.

[kevers7290]

Originally Posted by professorwho

It’s not, actually. Sony is MPEG-2 with windowboxing and 16-bit TrueHD audio, Manga UK is MPEG-4 with 24-bit DTS-HD MA with a slightly higher video Bitrate (Sony: 26 mbps; Manga: 28 mbps). I’m hoping they can eliminate the windowboxing on their disc.

Bumping this (Paprika) because I'm curious too. I wouldn't mind upgrading my Sony copy if the UK is better, I need the definitive releases of Satoshi Kon's oeuvre.

[Rozay]

Anyone gotten a chance to dive into Funi's Yamato 2202 part 1 release?

Searched the thread, but apologies if I missed it.

[Gorgon]

Originally Posted by kevers7290

Bumping this (Paprika) because I'm curious too. I wouldn't mind upgrading my Sony copy if the UK is better, I need the definitive releases of Satoshi Kon's oeuvre.

Looks like Manga's 2018 release (Blu only) is at 10 quid right now. Decent price.

[slerch666]

Originally Posted by Rozay

Anyone gotten a chance to dive into Funi's Yamato 2202 part 1 release?

Searched the thread, but apologies if I missed it.

If it hasn't been done, I can grab some info tomorrow. I haven't been around long enough in the thread to know if someone else bothered or not.

[slerch666]

Got my copy of Please Twins! today.

I was going to compare to DVD but let's face it, we already know the quality is better. It wasn't TERRIBLE (for the time) on DVD but even a 1080i stream is much better than what we got there.

1080i. LPCM audio for English and Japanese. Decently high average bitrate. I would say this is just as good as the Please Teacher release. Would have been nice to get the 1080p footage from the JP BD but even interlaced, using a good player, it looks fantastic in motion.

Caps were all pulled from DISC 2. I was flipping between the two discs and figured, hey, Disc 2 quality will be same as Disc 1, so screen caps are further into the series.


Here are the screen shots:











Bitrate Viewer:



BDInfo (says English for both tracks, I assure you Japanese IS there as LPCM)

[Show spoiler]

                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00005.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:25:55 0               43,000,720,072  0.00    0.00    LPCM 2.0 1536Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)          LPCM 2.0 1536Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Please_Twins_BD2
Disc Label:     PLEASE_TWINS_BD2
Disc Size:      43,000,720,072 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00005.MPLS
Length:                 0:25:55.620 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   0 bytes
Total Bitrate:          0.00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        0 kbps              1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      English         1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
LPCM Audio                      English         1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.000 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           English         0.000 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00005.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:25:55.620     0               0               

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:06.426     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
2               0:02:06.426     0:01:22.982     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
3               0:03:29.409     0:09:20.159     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
4               0:12:49.568     0:10:47.046     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
5               0:23:36.615     0:01:24.050     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
6               0:25:00.665     0:00:54.954     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00005.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     0                       0                       0               0               
00005.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            eng (English)           0                       0                       0               0               
00005.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x80            LPCM            eng (English)           0                       0                       0               0               
00005.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           0                       0                       0               0               
00005.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           0                       0                       0               0

[professorwho]

Well, the authoring system automatically defaults each track description to English, so the compresssionist must’ve forgotten. Not a big deal.

But yeah, it looks good to my eyes!

[rollinwith26s]

This seems like a thread that could prevent me from making stupid purchases. I shall set up camp and observe.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by rollinwith26s

This seems like a thread that could prevent me from making stupid purchases. I shall set up camp and observe.

The back-catalog here is big, but it's worth pursuing a look.