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Old 04-12-2019, 12:02 PM   #3581
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As I understand it, they were animated at the 24 fps. The show proper was 30 fps. Why? IDFK. But it DEFINITELY screwed up the FUNimation release on BD, no question.
No, it's the other way around. The OP/EDs are 30 fps and the show is 24 fps. Obviously
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Was there an issue with the previous encode? If there was, I might be convinced to upgrade.
The black levels/color space was exported at PC levels.
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:51 PM   #3583
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Cowboy Bebop - The Movie - Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door – Dynit BD (Region B locked)

So this is the moment I never once thought could happen, but it really did happen: a Dynit release with English subtitles and dub! Seeing those English subtitles put a really big grin on my face, so a big thank you to everyone involved in this release! Hopefully the sales will perform well enough for Dynit to consider releasing other titles from the Sony catalog, such as Tokyo Godfathers.



The quality is what one should expect from Dynit: an expertly crafted package put together with better care than last year’s offering from Funimation. I don’t think anyone will be disappointed by the encoding work found on the disc, though it must be said that this Blu-ray is based on an old HD transfer that was used for the original Sony DVD release. The HD transfer has held up well over the time and it has a nice filmic quality to it, but a new remaster would have been received with open arms.

If you want to add Cowboy Bebop The Movie to your Blu-ray collection, then this is the release that you’ll want to buy.


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- Audio -
Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3153 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Italian DTS-HD MA 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3155 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
English DTS-HD MA 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3099 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

- Subtitles -
Italian (Optional)
English (Optional, some extras feature hard-coded English subtitles)

Bitrate viewer report

AVG: 33493 kbps | MAX: 40972 kbps

BDinfo report
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Cowboy Bebop The Movie - Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Disc Label:     COWBOY BEBOP THE MOVIE
Disc Size:      48,553,480,683 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.2

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00005.MPLS
Length:                 1:55:14.908 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   39,419,707,392 bytes
Total Bitrate:          45.61 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        33493 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Italian         3155 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  3155 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3099 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  3099 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        3153 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  3153 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         23.348 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         23.214 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00006.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:55:14.908     39,419,707,392  45,605          

CHAPTERS:

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1               0:00:00.000     0:09:05.628     33,135 kbps     48,243 kbps     00:00:21.146    36,363 kbps     00:00:12.595    35,571 kbps     00:00:07.549    172,738 bytes   610,178 bytes   00:00:21.980    
2               0:09:05.628     0:08:56.202     33,762 kbps     39,423 kbps     00:10:32.089    35,679 kbps     00:10:28.127    35,261 kbps     00:10:23.122    176,018 bytes   368,337 bytes   00:10:23.706    
3               0:18:01.830     0:11:56.507     32,728 kbps     36,732 kbps     00:21:09.184    35,138 kbps     00:23:04.299    34,941 kbps     00:22:59.419    170,629 bytes   369,224 bytes   00:20:28.101    
4               0:29:58.338     0:07:46.299     32,616 kbps     36,986 kbps     00:37:02.386    35,162 kbps     00:36:58.466    34,980 kbps     00:32:41.376    170,047 bytes   354,345 bytes   00:32:49.425    
5               0:37:44.637     0:07:40.460     34,666 kbps     37,168 kbps     00:44:57.152    35,170 kbps     00:44:53.148    34,915 kbps     00:39:05.384    180,731 bytes   333,069 bytes   00:44:42.012    
6               0:45:25.097     0:04:22.512     34,327 kbps     36,036 kbps     00:48:44.463    35,076 kbps     00:47:41.775    34,944 kbps     00:47:36.812    178,963 bytes   362,590 bytes   00:45:30.102    
7               0:49:47.609     0:05:49.932     33,453 kbps     36,331 kbps     00:55:31.161    35,034 kbps     00:54:04.783    34,910 kbps     00:55:22.152    174,410 bytes   311,198 bytes   00:49:59.913    
8               0:55:37.542     0:11:17.885     32,866 kbps     37,878 kbps     00:56:01.274    35,213 kbps     00:55:57.270    34,964 kbps     01:00:48.519    171,347 bytes   330,187 bytes   01:06:38.411    
9               1:06:55.428     0:11:26.060     33,875 kbps     36,354 kbps     01:07:03.894    35,064 kbps     01:07:03.144    34,910 kbps     01:15:58.637    176,608 bytes   368,583 bytes   01:08:25.142    
10              1:18:21.488     0:07:56.225     32,625 kbps     35,914 kbps     01:25:52.814    35,021 kbps     01:26:07.328    34,902 kbps     01:25:41.302    170,094 bytes   319,847 bytes   01:22:12.093    
11              1:26:17.714     0:04:20.385     33,885 kbps     36,139 kbps     01:30:04.690    35,032 kbps     01:26:49.954    34,920 kbps     01:26:44.949    176,660 bytes   305,800 bytes   01:26:47.994    
12              1:30:38.099     0:10:58.366     34,192 kbps     37,055 kbps     01:39:01.477    35,064 kbps     01:40:57.468    34,935 kbps     01:40:52.463    178,263 bytes   356,778 bytes   01:38:27.109    
13              1:41:36.465     0:02:35.864     33,249 kbps     36,746 kbps     01:43:27.326    34,958 kbps     01:41:54.566    34,843 kbps     01:41:55.484    173,346 bytes   346,459 bytes   01:41:38.467    
14              1:44:12.329     0:03:34.714     34,342 kbps     37,187 kbps     01:47:20.517    35,049 kbps     01:44:51.618    34,946 kbps     01:47:11.550    179,041 bytes   325,114 bytes   01:46:09.946    
15              1:47:47.043     0:07:27.864     33,796 kbps     35,966 kbps     01:53:18.458    35,028 kbps     01:53:14.704    34,909 kbps     01:53:09.491    176,214 bytes   341,825 bytes   01:53:26.257    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00006.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6914.741                33,494                  28,950,483,791  157,436,100     
00006.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       ita (Italian)           6914.741                3,156                   2,727,476,128   15,892,558      
00006.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6914.741                3,099                   2,678,246,392   15,626,775      
00006.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          6914.741                3,153                   2,725,433,464   15,893,163      
00006.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6914.741                23                      20,180,805      115,235         
00006.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6914.741                23                      20,065,148      115,457

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Old 04-12-2019, 05:54 PM   #3584
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Okay, I’ll order it this weekend. It’s too good an offer to pass up!
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Strange that only the 1st screenshot (Dynit/Funi) from the Opening of the movie show that much difference, the rest of thoses screenshoots indeed show a difference in the grain, but it's not as big as I expected, probably because as you said the master is the same. (old HD transfer).

I wonder what's the deal with the opening for Funi to screw that much in that particular sequence.

Really disapointed that Dynit did not include a French Sub track, especially since they still have pretty good relationship with Dybex (the TV serie Cowboy Bebop, Ergo Proxy, Ghost in the shell Innocence, etc.)
But I also really hope that they include English subs in more releases in the future, it's a really good move.

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Old 04-12-2019, 08:30 PM   #3586
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Strange that only the 1st screenshot (Dynit/Funi) from the Opening of the movie show that much difference, the rest of thoses screenshoots indeed show a difference in the grain, but it's not as big as I expected, probably because as you said the master is the same master. (old HD transfer).
Yeah, I kinda felt the same. If there's anyone who can do actual viewing comparisons, I'd be interested if the Dynit encode shows more of a difference in motion instead.
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The HD transfer has held up well over the time and it has a nice filmic quality to it, but a new remaster would have been received with open arms.
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Old 04-12-2019, 09:07 PM   #3588
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I also took some screenshots from the Daitarn 3 trailer (trailer is encoded with video bitrate of 30mbps):





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Strange that only the 1st screenshot (Dynit/Funi) from the Opening of the movie show that much difference, the rest of thoses screenshoots indeed show a difference in the grain, but it's not as big as I expected, probably because as you said the master is the same master. (old HD transfer).

I wonder what's the deal with the opening for Funi to screw that much in that particular sequence.

Really disapointed that Dynit did not include a French Sub track, especially since they still have pretty good relationship with Dybex (the TV serie Cowboy Bebop, Ergo Proxy, Ghost in the shell Innocence, etc.)
But I also really hope that they include English subs in more releases in the future, it's a really good move.
My guess is that the opening was sourced from a dupe film element, hence the lower resolution and slightly increased contrast, but I don't understand why they would do that. The opening was already in English.
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Yeah, I kinda felt the same. If there's anyone who can do actual viewing comparisons, I'd be interested if the Dynit encode shows more of a difference in motion instead.
mp3dom said that the real advantage of his encode is detail in the fight scenes, or something like that, when comparing to the Image BD.
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I also took some screenshots from the Daitarn 3 trailer (trailer is encoded with video bitrate of 30mbps)
When I got my Dynit copy of Heaven’s Feel, I noticed all the trailers were also encoded with high bitrates as well (around 30 average).

Also- and this is a recommendation- y'all should check out at least the first episode of Daitarn 3- that episode is insanely hilarious for its sheer absurdity and I loved it.
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^^ wrt CBBtM; Amz.it sent me an email a bit back stating delivery betwixt 16-23 April. So not long now.
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Comparison with Image BD (source Image BD caps: caps-a-holic.com)
Comparison with Funimation BD 1 | 2 (source Funimation BD caps: Sensuifu)
Found this screenshot comparison between the Bandai and Image BDs: http://imgbox.com/g/n6iwmRdIvu
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Can someone who has the Kizumonogatari films run a BDinfo scan and bitrate graph?

The back of the Japanese covers say it has 96kHz audio, and knowing the oddities of Kizu (and Monogatari as a whole), I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm curious if it's true...
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What do the Japanese covers look like, anyway? Not just the art of the front cover, but the case and such. I've never seen the whole thing.
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Can someone who has the Kizumonogatari films run a BDinfo scan and bitrate graph?

The back of the Japanese covers say it has 96kHz audio, and knowing the oddities of Kizu (and Monogatari as a whole), I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm curious if it's true...
I Have a complete unboxing of the 3 JP BD box in my blog.
> https://ilvvatar.wordpress.com/category/monogatari/

Not bitgraph tho, and i don't want to rip those movies again.
But yeah, 96KHZ for all 3 of them.
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I Have a complete unboxing of the 3 JP BD box in my blog.
> https://ilvvatar.wordpress.com/category/monogatari/

Not bitgraph tho, and i don't want to rip those movies again.
But yeah, 96KHZ for all 3 of them.
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Anyone know if there’s a difference in the US and JP BluRay for Gundam Unicorn?
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Anyone know if there’s a difference in the US and JP BluRay for Gundam Unicorn?
The old Bandai releases are 1:1 clones. Identical in both US and JP. The new Nozomi/Rightstuf release in one collection is a re-encode. Video is about as good, and audio is arguably better (LPCM 2.0 and 5.1 mixes in both Japanese and English).
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The old Bandai releases are 1:1 clones. Identical in both US and JP. The new Nozomi/Rightstuf release in one collection is a re-encode. Video is about as good, and audio is arguably better (LPCM 2.0 and 5.1 mixes in both Japanese and English).
So, I assume would it’s best to get the older release instead of the RightStuf version? And “arguably better”, TrueHD vs LPCM?
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So, I assume would it’s best to get the older release instead of the RightStuf version? And “arguably better”, TrueHD vs LPCM?
Both audio codecs are lossless, but LPCM has less compression (as in, it’s called “uncompressed” audio).
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