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Old 04-17-2019, 01:56 AM   #3601
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Dragon Ball Super: Broly - Funimation

First time I've made one of these posts (apologies, NLScavenger, I'm going to steal your format a bit), so I don't have a whole lot to say. I'll let you guys decipher most of the information here, you'll make better use of it than me. For screencaps I tried to use a variety of shots, some dark, some from still shots, and some from very fast moving scenes.

The green tint that people have commented on is indeed present, though if you don't have a particularly good eye for slightly off colors, I doubt you'll notice during a normal viewing.

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English: Dolby TrueHD Audio 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2709 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Japanese: Dolby TrueHD Audio 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2947 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Dragon_Ball_Super_Broly
Disc Size:      46,612,871,168 bytes
Protection:     AACS(v66)
BDInfo:         0.7.5.3 (compatible layout created by DVDFab 11.0.1.8)

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS  
Length:                 1:41:26.000 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   33,136,693,248 bytes
Total Bitrate:          43.56 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        33810 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 / 

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         2709 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2709 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        2947 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2947 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         30.276 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.089 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
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00046.M2TS      1:39:43.500     0:01:32.000     350,742,528     30,499 kbps     
00047.M2TS      1:41:15.500     0:00:10.000     19,009,536      15,207 kbps     
00048.M2TS      1:41:25.500     0:00:00.500     602,112         9,633 kbps      

CHAPTERS:

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2               0:09:57.833     0:05:33.166     33,906 kbps     41,926 kbps     0:12:32.458     38,666 kbps     0:12:32.458     38,012 kbps     0:13:55.375     176,595 bytes   616,905 bytes   0:13:16.541     
3               0:15:31.000     0:10:09.125     33,364 kbps     41,446 kbps     0:17:21.208     38,129 kbps     0:23:47.458     37,764 kbps     0:21:08.583     173,774 bytes   637,128 bytes   0:18:49.666     
4               0:25:40.125     0:10:15.791     34,702 kbps     43,087 kbps     0:26:53.208     38,956 kbps     0:29:38.041     37,857 kbps     0:26:53.208     180,742 bytes   638,111 bytes   0:30:05.833     
5               0:35:55.916     0:10:03.125     33,811 kbps     42,642 kbps     0:44:54.250     37,990 kbps     0:36:20.041     37,723 kbps     0:36:20.583     176,103 bytes   636,745 bytes   0:43:45.916     
6               0:45:59.041     0:05:06.041     33,510 kbps     40,545 kbps     0:47:11.208     37,679 kbps     0:49:02.166     37,156 kbps     0:49:00.875     174,531 bytes   630,289 bytes   0:50:22.333     
7               0:51:05.083     0:08:10.541     35,562 kbps     44,618 kbps     0:57:50.250     39,139 kbps     0:57:50.250     38,427 kbps     0:57:50.250     185,222 bytes   637,230 bytes   0:52:46.125     
8               0:59:15.625     0:10:58.875     36,163 kbps     44,595 kbps     1:07:59.291     38,976 kbps     1:07:59.166     37,806 kbps     1:09:04.958     188,353 bytes   637,316 bytes   1:08:51.125     
9               1:10:14.500     0:10:35.000     35,747 kbps     44,187 kbps     1:11:39.625     38,932 kbps     1:12:54.291     37,988 kbps     1:11:58.250     186,185 bytes   640,365 bytes   1:17:04.208     
10              1:20:49.500     0:09:32.291     35,070 kbps     46,265 kbps     1:29:19.000     38,472 kbps     1:24:09.625     37,770 kbps     1:24:09.625     182,658 bytes   628,883 bytes   1:24:31.125     
11              1:30:21.791     0:05:29.250     34,043 kbps     40,769 kbps     1:32:01.500     37,836 kbps     1:31:47.416     37,282 kbps     1:31:47.500     177,311 bytes   640,701 bytes   1:33:59.208     
12              1:35:51.041     0:03:52.458     20,123 kbps     46,442 kbps     1:35:52.375     38,205 kbps     1:37:37.333     37,186 kbps     1:37:42.500     104,810 bytes   639,578 bytes   1:37:33.458     
13              1:39:43.500     0:01:32.000     24,244 kbps     41,370 kbps     1:40:23.583     38,046 kbps     1:40:24.625     38,211 kbps     1:40:27.583     126,333 bytes   628,056 bytes   1:40:23.583     
14              1:41:15.500     0:00:10.500     9,097 kbps      14,017 kbps     1:41:18.541     9,553 kbps      1:41:21.458     9,512 kbps      1:41:25.416     49,750 bytes    631,115 bytes   1:41:15.500     

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00033.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     5983.46                 33999.9                 25,429,619,106  138,287,794     
00033.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            TrueHD          eng (English)           5983.50                 2738.64                 2,048,332,660   15,422,587      
00033.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            TrueHD          jpn (Japanese)          5983.50                 2980.48                 2,229,212,284   16,614,199      
00033.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5983.46                 30.793                  23,031,443      132,549         
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00048.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           0.46                    1.222                   70              7               
00048.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           0.46                    1.222                   70              7
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:42 AM   #3602
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Lots of shots from the cuts animated by Shida, Hayashi and Umakoshi. Nice. (This Movie is a sakuga masterpiece- so much raw animation- I love it)

Wow. It’s pretty much always around 35 mbps. That is some good optimization on FUNi’s part. Those screenshots look good- don’t see many issues from what I’m looking on (an iPhone currently- not my PC monitor, so maybe it’s bad and I can’t tell because of being on mobile).
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:57 AM   #3603
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iPhones have insanely accurate screens to be fair and DCI-P3 support so it's probably one of the better phones to check for PQ. But obviously monitor is more suitable.
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Old 04-17-2019, 04:37 AM   #3604
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About the only negative thing I have to say about FUNi's BD in terms of video quality after watching it besides the green tint (which I didn't notice too well on the rewatch even though I was looking for it) was there was some banding during the darker scenes, so there's that to keep in mind.
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Old 04-17-2019, 04:54 AM   #3605
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About the only negative thing I have to say about FUNi's BD in terms of video quality after watching it besides the green tint (which I didn't notice too well on the rewatch even though I was looking for it) was there was some banding during the darker scenes, so there's that to keep in mind.
I noticed that too when taking the screencaps. Pictures 1 and 12 have some especially noticeable banding.
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:43 AM   #3606
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Hardcore fans should probably get the UK release as well. It won't have the green tint.
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:04 PM   #3607
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Would the movie being in 24fps indicate Funi was sent the theatrical version over the home video maybe causing the green tint?
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:29 PM   #3608
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Would the movie being in 24fps indicate Funi was sent the theatrical version over the home video maybe causing the green tint?
Maybe. That seems likely.
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:34 PM   #3609
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Mediainfo of the UK BD from Ajay.

TLDR: 24-bit audio unlike FUNi’s 16-bit. Has LPCM 2.0 downmixes as well also at 24-bit. 5.1 audio is in DTS HD-MA; dub has higher bitrate than FUNi’s BD, Japanese audio is about the same. Average video Bitrate is lower (29.4 mbps vs FUNi’s 33.8) but as it’s just a Mediainfo, not sure as to variability of the Bitrate and the spikes.
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Bumping this (Paprika) because I'm curious too. I wouldn't mind upgrading my Sony copy if the UK is better, I need the definitive releases of Satoshi Kon's oeuvre.
Quoting myself (lol) to say that I took a punt on the UK release, so I'll try and post BDinfo on the Sony and Manga releases once I have both in hand. Might be a while though as it's shipping across the pond.
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:25 PM   #3611
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Hardcore fans should probably get the UK release as well. It won't have the green tint.
That's what I'm planning on doing, wasn't originally. Though I was already thinking about also getting the JP release before I learned of the green tint on FUNi's release. Just look at this, it's gorgeous. The best we got so far here is just that SteelBook.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07PC38GHQ
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I would get the JP set as it looks great but I am getting NT in May and got to save some for whenever HF II is released I hope August or earlier.
And ofc the Standard for me is Mangas.
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i did my own remaster for hokuto no ken heh:
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I think it looks cool as like "what if Hokuto no Ken was made today" type of project, but as a restoration- it doesn't work. Still, I think it's something interesting.
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I think it looks cool as like "what if Hokuto no Ken was made today" type of project, but as a restoration- it doesn't work. Still, I think it's something interesting.
Heh, what makes you say that
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Heh, what makes you say that
It looks like a Q-Tec FORS upscale gone even worse than usual, but it does have better outlines than a Q-Tec upscale, so...
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Anyone know what the JP BDs for Nura rise of the yokai clan are like?
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It looks like a Q-Tec FORS upscale gone even worse than usual, but it does have better outlines than a Q-Tec upscale, so...
What's FORS?

Also, which release by Q-TEC was an upscale (and upscale from what native res to what fake res)? I know Ashita no Joe 2 and Cobra movie looked terrible in 4K but were they upscales?
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What's FORS?

Also, which release by Q-TEC was an upscale (and upscale from what native res to what fake res)? I know Ashita no Joe 2 and Cobra movie looked terrible in 4K but were they upscales?
There's too much to explain, I'll let someone else do it if they want.
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There's too much to explain, I'll let someone else do it if they want.
Well you can leave out the FORS part, I went to Q-TEC's site and saw lol. But yeah, you can just name the upscaled releases if you want and I'll try to find screenshots of them myself.
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