The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 189 - Blu-ray Forum

NLScavenger · 05-09-2019, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kevers7290

Alright, so I'm still having trouble. I created a backup of the disc using makemkv, so now I have a folder called "Paprika" that contains three subfolders: AACS, BDMV, CERTIFICATE and a .dat file. How do I use bdinfo to interpret this folder? Sorry for my lack of knowledge here, I've not used this apllication extensively.

Those three subfolders are correct, but if that .dat file is discattd.dat from the MAKEMKV subfolder, delete it.

Select the "Paprika" folder in BDInfo.

professorwho · 05-09-2019, 10:56 PM

When you're done, you can scan the biggest .m2ts file with bitrate viewer to get a graph. Pretty useful in showing its variability of optimizations.

FeelsBDMan · 05-10-2019, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

No clue on Madman Eromanga Sensei. Might get it eventually, considering its cheap price, but I've seen nothing on it whatsoever.

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-...ps-1-6/649831/

JB has both combined for $61 AUD (~45 USD) right now but obviously shipping will be a bit hefty although you can bundle it with another 50% off sale for other anime going on.

That being said I have little faith in the PQ if Madman encoded it. Their best work is when they clone Aniplex encodes (Madoka movies, Heavens Feel) or Sentai encodes.

kevers7290 · 05-10-2019, 01:39 AM

Alright, apologies again--I'm having a lot of trouble with this. I did download bitrate viewer so I can use that utility in the future. The problem I am having is with makemkv. I keep getting an error along the lines of "ILLEGAL REQUEST: COPY PROTECTION ERROR." I think my BD drive is to blame, because it also says "Can't read AACS VID from disc - most likely current AACS host certificate is revoked by your drive."

Any advice?

professorwho · 05-10-2019, 01:54 AM

Just rip the film as an MKV and use a combination of bitrate viewer and MediaInfo for stats. That'll be good enough for now (while you sort out what's wrong with your drive).

kevers7290 · 05-10-2019, 02:57 AM

So it looks like it wasn't my BD drive, but the fact that my version of makemkv was outdated.

I created a quick .mkv of the UK Paprika disc, here is the bitrate graph.

And here is a text dump of the mediainfo (wasn't sure what format y'all use so I'll spoiler it). Bear in mind, this is from an .mkv of the feature only, not the actual disc.

[Show spoiler]

I'm pretty tired, but tomorrow I'll see if I can do the same with the Sony (USA) disc, and maybe try my hand at grabbing some screenshots for comparison.

Thanks for the help, I'm pretty new to this.

kevers7290 · 05-10-2019, 11:44 AM

Double post...for science!

Here's the mediainfo for the US Paprika disc:

[Show spoiler]

I can't generate a bitrate graph, it's giving me an error for some reason. I'll troubleshoot it later on my break or when I get home from work. I'll also see about taking some screengrabs if I have time.

professorwho · 05-10-2019, 11:51 AM

Maybe it’s because the American BD is MPEG-2?

Anyways, you don’t need to make a graph for it. Caps a Holic has one and some screenshots of it.

kevers7290 · 05-10-2019, 05:37 PM

I've taken some screencaps by following NLScavenger's (very helpful) tutorial. What is a good place to host the screenshots that won't make me create an account? I don't want to hog bandwidth by posting them here...

NLScavenger · 05-10-2019, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevers7290

I've taken some screencaps by following NLScavenger's (very helpful) tutorial. What is a good place to host the screenshots that won't make me create an account? I don't want to hog bandwidth by posting them here...

If you don't want to create an account, use Postimages.org or ImageBanana (in German, but not difficult to use. Click multi, drag drop)

kevers7290 · 05-10-2019, 06:51 PM

OK, let's hope this works. I only had time to try and match the first three screenshots with those of the "capsaholic" images of the US disc. I didn't have any timestamps to work with so I eyeballed as best as I could.

[Show spoiler]

The windowboxing on the Sony disc has clearly been eliminated.

NLScavenger · 05-10-2019, 07:07 PM

Tempting, but I'm still praying for a Dynit release of Paprika and Tokyo Godfathers with English subs.

professorwho · 05-10-2019, 07:14 PM

Indeed. I want the Manga version as it’s only £8, but I would get a Dynit version if it had subs... choices, choices...

This is how companies get you to double dip.

pikagreg · 05-11-2019, 03:51 AM

Nothing yet on my side but someone on Funi discord got their Re:Zero replacement discs in today. Hopefully some of us see them next week.

BlackCondor93 · 05-11-2019, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Naiera

The UK release is vastly inferior. They use like 12 GB on each disc. Complete shitshow.

I really should've responded there and then, but I have both volumes of Manga's release of Occultic;Nine. Based on what I've seen, it clearly wasn't authored by Manga (based on the subtitle font, it looks like an Aniplex clone, as Madman's release (which came after the UK) used the UK discs (literally, they used the exact same discs with the BBFC rating and Manga logo)), as Manga authored discs have the inability to display more than one caption at the same time.

Naiera · 05-11-2019, 11:48 AM

It's definitely not an Aniplex clone with those stats, though.

NLScavenger · 05-11-2019, 12:09 PM

AoJ BD: 7.3 / 7.4 GB per episode in M2TS format

BlackCondor93 · 05-11-2019, 12:32 PM

Well, if it wasn't an Aniplex encode, who was responsible for it, as it doesn't look like a typical Manga author (the subtitle font is a dead giveaway)? And as I already stated, Madman used the UK discs with the BBFC rating and the Manga logo on the disc art, as I saw in an unboxing video (Madman's logo and the ACB rating is nowhere to be seen).

Naiera · 05-11-2019, 12:39 PM

Logan Jones · 05-11-2019, 01:21 PM

Anyone have an opinion on the Mahoromatic Blu-rays? Specifically the Automatic Maiden series, which was animated traditionally. (I already know that S2 was animated in SD.)

I've seen footage online, it don't look quite right to me.

05-09-2019, 10:56 PM	#3762
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	When you're done, you can scan the biggest .m2ts file with bitrate viewer to get a graph. Pretty useful in showing its variability of optimizations.

05-10-2019, 01:39 AM	#3764
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	Alright, apologies again--I'm having a lot of trouble with this. I did download bitrate viewer so I can use that utility in the future. The problem I am having is with makemkv. I keep getting an error along the lines of "ILLEGAL REQUEST: COPY PROTECTION ERROR." I think my BD drive is to blame, because it also says "Can't read AACS VID from disc - most likely current AACS host certificate is revoked by your drive." Any advice?

05-10-2019, 01:54 AM	#3765
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Just rip the film as an MKV and use a combination of bitrate viewer and MediaInfo for stats. That'll be good enough for now (while you sort out what's wrong with your drive).

05-10-2019, 02:57 AM	#3766
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	So it looks like it wasn't my BD drive, but the fact that my version of makemkv was outdated. I created a quick .mkv of the UK Paprika disc, here is the bitrate graph. And here is a text dump of the mediainfo (wasn't sure what format y'all use so I'll spoiler it). Bear in mind, this is from an .mkv of the feature only, not the actual disc. [Show spoiler] I'm pretty tired, but tomorrow I'll see if I can do the same with the Sony (USA) disc, and maybe try my hand at grabbing some screenshots for comparison. Thanks for the help, I'm pretty new to this.

05-10-2019, 11:44 AM	#3767
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	Double post...for science! Here's the mediainfo for the US Paprika disc: [Show spoiler] I can't generate a bitrate graph, it's giving me an error for some reason. I'll troubleshoot it later on my break or when I get home from work. I'll also see about taking some screengrabs if I have time.

05-10-2019, 11:51 AM	#3768
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Maybe it’s because the American BD is MPEG-2? Anyways, you don’t need to make a graph for it. Caps a Holic has one and some screenshots of it.

05-10-2019, 05:37 PM	#3769
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	I've taken some screencaps by following NLScavenger's (very helpful) tutorial. What is a good place to host the screenshots that won't make me create an account? I don't want to hog bandwidth by posting them here...

05-10-2019, 06:51 PM	#3771
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	OK, let's hope this works. I only had time to try and match the first three screenshots with those of the "capsaholic" images of the US disc. I didn't have any timestamps to work with so I eyeballed as best as I could. [Show spoiler] The windowboxing on the Sony disc has clearly been eliminated.

05-10-2019, 07:07 PM	#3772
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	Tempting, but I'm still praying for a Dynit release of Paprika and Tokyo Godfathers with English subs.

05-10-2019, 07:14 PM	#3773
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Indeed. I want the Manga version as it’s only £8, but I would get a Dynit version if it had subs... choices, choices... This is how companies get you to double dip.

05-11-2019, 03:51 AM	#3774
pikagreg Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2014 Location:Southern California Trading Score:13	Nothing yet on my side but someone on Funi discord got their Re:Zero replacement discs in today. Hopefully some of us see them next week.

05-11-2019, 11:48 AM	#3776
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:25	It's definitely not an Aniplex clone with those stats, though.

05-11-2019, 12:09 PM	#3777
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	AoJ BD: 7.3 / 7.4 GB per episode in M2TS format

05-11-2019, 12:32 PM	#3778
BlackCondor93 Member Member since:Jun 2018 Blu-ray collection:78	Well, if it wasn't an Aniplex encode, who was responsible for it, as it doesn't look like a typical Manga author (the subtitle font is a dead giveaway)? And as I already stated, Madman used the UK discs with the BBFC rating and the Manga logo on the disc art, as I saw in an unboxing video (Madman's logo and the ACB rating is nowhere to be seen).

05-11-2019, 12:39 PM	#3779
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:25

05-11-2019, 01:21 PM	#3780
Logan Jones Member Member since:Aug 2018 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:131	Anyone have an opinion on the Mahoromatic Blu-rays? Specifically the Automatic Maiden series, which was animated traditionally. (I already know that S2 was animated in SD.) I've seen footage online, it don't look quite right to me.

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