The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[Naiera]

I know

[UseY0ur1llusi0n]

Originally Posted by Gumi

https://imgur.com/a/vxmkYbu

Nice! Here's some corresponding caps from the 2005 ADV DVD;

http://www.framecompare.com/image-co...rison/DL6Z7NNX

http://www.framecompare.com/image-co...rison/JBMCFNNU

http://www.framecompare.com/image-co...rison/JBMCJNNU

http://www.framecompare.com/image-co...rison/DL6ZWNNX

http://www.framecompare.com/image-co...rison/JBMCMNNU

Compression on the SD BD seems a smidge better on that last one. I also didn't deinterlace mine (the show's "intentional" horizontal scanlines tends to exacerbate the problem when frame pausing - LOL). Honestly the overall pallet looks pretty good for a non-HD animated offering.

Anyone know what the subtitles look like? Those Jaundice Joplin™ piss yellow ones or a nice, pure white?

[Gumi]

Originally Posted by UseY0ur1llusi0n

Anyone know what the subtitles look like? Those Jaundice Joplin™ piss yellow ones or a nice, pure white?

They are unfortunately yellow srt subtitles. Probably the exact same ones on the dvd.

[mp3dom]

If those screenshots are right, the interlace on the bluray is totally wrong. On the other side, the dvd is right.

http://www.framecompare.com/screensh...rison/DLPDWNNX

If you split the image by fields, the dvd is clean (which is expected, because the interlace shows two different "clean" images at different temporal instances), while the bluray is fieldblended (which is wrong)

[Gumi]

This is the media info for Kino's Journy SD on BD I got from MPC-HC
Blu-Ray rip using MakeMKV

[Show spoiler]Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medi : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, picture struc : Frame
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 24 min 47 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 11.9 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan type, store method : Interleaved fields
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.148
Stream size : 2.06 GiB (57%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Original source medium : Blu-ray

[mp3dom]

It's a supposedly (based only on the screenshots, since I don't have the source) problem that was made before the encoding process (which seems right per se).

[chronoclast]

As mp3dom mentioned, the Kino SD-BD was field blended which screws up motion horribly. It's the exact same error that inflicted a number of Sentai/Maiden Japan's early SD-BDs like Votoms and Human Crossing.

From what I saw of Human Crossing, motion is so messed up it's unwatchable IMO. These discs should've been recalled and fixed.

[PegasusKenshiro]

These SD on BDs are personally a complete waste. They do nothing to actually help the SD content, I'd rather see it (professionally) upscaled to 1080i(p?) or just on a DVD. Feels like an absolute waste, especially if all they seem to do is have encoding issues.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by PegasusKenshiro

These SD on BDs are personally a complete waste. They do nothing to actually help the SD content, I'd rather see it (professionally) upscaled to 1080i(p?) or just on a DVD. Feels like an absolute waste, especially if all they seem to do is have encoding issues.

Wrong. See an actually good SDBD like the ones by Discotek and you'll see why they're the best solution for these types of shows.

[PegasusKenshiro]

Originally Posted by professorwho

Wrong. See an actually good SDBD like the ones by Discotek and you'll see why they're the best solution for these types of shows.

One of my friends has the FOTNS one and it looks worse than the DVDs. At least with DVDs on a Blu ray player, it upscales the 480p image. Waste of a Blu ray and does nothing to improve the image.

[chronoclast]

Originally Posted by PegasusKenshiro

One of my friends has the FOTNS one and it looks worse than the DVDs. At least with DVDs on a Blu ray player, it upscales the 480p image. Waste of a Blu ray and does nothing to improve the image.

Some older BD players won't upscale SD content on BDs, that's a player issue and not a fault of the disc.

[BoscoTheMan82]

Fist of the North Star was also one of the early Discotek SD-BD's that has problems with Sony players

[jsevakis]

Originally Posted by BoscoTheMan82

Fist of the North Star was also one of the early Discotek SD-BD's that has problems with Sony players

We fixed that for later pressings.

Yeah, most BD players upscale SD-BD content great, and the results look the same or marginally better than a DVD. Some... aren't as good at it. But there's no way we would've been able to price 152 eps for < $70 on DVDs.

[pikagreg]

Nice! Time to buy FOTNS

[NLScavenger]

Nice. Thinking of upgrading because the DVD Complete Series Collection case is a monstrosity.

*Me when trying to remove the DVDs*

[kevers7290]

How do the UK and US releases of Patema Inverted stack up? The US release doesn't have the "Shout" logo anywhere so that's a good omen. Just curious how AL's release compares to GKID's.

[tglover79]

Originally Posted by cfx

Patema isn't packaged like the typical Shout anime release; it's in a clear case and has a metallic slipcover. It's also only a blu-ray, not a combo pack. It's dated 2014, perhaps the licensing was different then?

I can't answer the actual question but am also curious about that.

Well, I know there's a Blu-ray + DVD Combo Pack copy of that movie at Wal-Mart right now. It depends on what size of a Wal-Mart you have.

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by kevers7290

I realize that the Ghost in the Shell SAC discussion has been beaten into the ground, so advance apologies here. The UK releases of Laughing Man and Individual Eleven are poor DVD upscales. My question is: what about Solid State Society? Is the UK release competent?

Received mine today. The video and audio bitrates of Solid State Society UK/US BD are identical to the JP BD. BDInfo below, but keep in mind that the UK BDInfo shows the combined bitrate of the audio:

BDInfo UK BD

DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     SOLIDSTATESOCIETY
Disc Size:      46,003,072,080 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 1:48:34.508 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   31,077,187,584 bytes
Total Bitrate:          38.16 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29957 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         2307 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  1667 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        2188 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  1548 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         43.689 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         1.866 kbps

BDInfo JP BD (source)

Disc Size:      31,468,634,008 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00001.mpls
Size:           31,098,636,288 bytes
Length:         1:48:34 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:  38.19 Mbps
Description:    

FILES:

Name            Size            Length          Time In         Time Out        
----            ----            ------          -------         --------        
00008.M2TS      31,098,636,288  1:48:34.508     0:00:00.000     1:48:34.508     

VIDEO:

Codec               Bitrate         Description     
-----               -------         -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video    29957 kbps      1080p / 23.976fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1667 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1667kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        1548 kbps       5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1548kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         44 kbps                         
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        26 kbps

[TThomas]

Originally Posted by kevers7290

I realize that the Ghost in the Shell SAC discussion has been beaten into the ground, so advance apologies here. The UK releases of Laughing Man and Individual Eleven are poor DVD upscales.

I haven't checked them out yet, but the German release (also Region B) of both recap movies includes the English 5.1 audio track (DTS-HD MA).
(No English subtitles included - no English tracks on other German GitS releases)

[Naiera]

Nice one, NLS! I looked at my GITS collection just a few days ago and sighed, because I still needed a proper SSS release, and not the UK one