The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[professorwho]

Gotcha. My bad. I didn't think about it.

My TV is pretty bad at downmixing 5.1 tracks, so and since I didn't think about the max bitrate, I thought it might've been worth mentioning.

[NLScavenger]

There's no filtering in cap 6, but other than that the difference is marginal. I'll probably stick with my AOJ BD.

Originally Posted by professorwho

AOJ BD:

[professorwho]

I should say I bought the Dynit to match my IT copy of Part 1. But really, the main reason I went Dynit was because the timing was the same, and the PQ would be at least on-par with the JP BD. The debanding is just an extra, really. It's a JP quality release at half price (but slightly better in terms of video, but not by a huge bit).

[Naiera]

I can haz subs?

[NLScavenger]

Lupin The Third (1971) - Yamato Video BD (Italy) vs Netflix Japan

Comparison 1 – focus on “frozen” grain and dnr

https://slow.pics/c/UF0Dt1OX

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Comparison 2 – additional screenshots

https://slow.pics/c/LEu5KxoG

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Re: the Netflix master

Originally Posted by ナッパ教信徒

I don't know what exactly their source is, but my guess is that it's the very first HD remaster aired on WOWOW in the mid-2000s. Maybe they thought it's inferior to the latest remaster which is supposed to be better, and let Netflix stream it in order not to compete with the Blu-ray release.

The BD remaster is I guess a heavily processed version of the older HD remaster. The most noticeable difference is the rather peculiar and destructive way in which the large amount of dust and dirt is taken care off. Anything that moves, whether it's an object or the background painting, is stripped of its dirt, grain and detail, yet anything that doesn't move is frozen in time with the grain texture locked in for dozens of frames.

Other changes are the boosted colors, of which I'm not a fan of, and the image stabilization recognizable by the zoomed in picture.

This is sadly one of those rare instances where the streaming experience is superior (Discotek Media, I beg you).

Audio
- Japanese PCM 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit with locked Italian subtitles
- Italian PCM 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit

BDInfo report Disc 1 (Full report)

Disc Label: LUPIN BD 01
Disc Size: 40,808,513,676 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 38,910,277,632 bytes
Length: 3:18:27.687
Total Bitrate: 26.14 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 20235 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Italian / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit
Subtitle: Italian / 2.146 kbps
Subtitle: Italian / 33.215 kbps

Bitrate episode #1


Bitrate episode #2


Bitrate episode #3


Bitrate episode #4


P.S. The Italian subtitles look very suspicious

[Show spoiler]

LUPIN the Shadow (lmao)

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Lupin The Third (1971) - Yamato Video BD (Italy) vs Netflix Japan

Comparison 1 – focus on “frozen” grain and dnr

[Show spoiler]

What is with this franchise having good HD masters, on disc that is, for the lessor entries (the post-Cagliostro films, most of the cel-done specials, etc) and the ones that people want are...shite. Hopefully, Discotek can get that Netflix master for a potential Part 1 Blu.

[NLScavenger]

Frozen grain video:

Frozen grain - YouTube

[Zhou]

The frozen grain on the first Lupin III TV series bothered me a lot when I was watching Discotek's R1 DVD release, and I wasn't aware that Netflix Japan had access to unfiltered masters that kept the film grain intact and had more organic-looking colors. Hell, even their cropping is better because they didn't bother fixing the frame jittering. I'd love to own a BD release of this show that looked like that.

[SpaceBlackKnight]

The "frozen grain" also looks like they turned static shots into digital stills to save costs on cleaning more film frames.

[Ccharmanderk]

Originally Posted by SpaceBlackKnight

The "frozen grain" also looks like they turned static shots into digital stills to save costs on cleaning more film frames.

Makes sense logically as a cost cutting measure, but it results in a very obvious false image.

The Sailor Moon release from Viz I know has this issue in rampant spades.

[NLScavenger]

Screenshot comparison of the second half of episode 17. Second half of ep 17 was sourced from film elements of lower quality than other episodes, and these were then processed to death in the BD version.

https://slow.pics/c/qAjEtVEN

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[dannphou]

Does anyone think the 4K BluRay of Weathering With You is going to be worth the purchase?

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by dannphou

Does anyone think the 4K BluRay of Weathering With You is going to be worth the purchase?

Yes, for the HDR and slightly better compression.

[kevers7290]

Originally Posted by EliasJackson

it is my lovely anime

Hey, I realize you are a new member, so first of all--hello and welcome!

Just some advice, I would strongly suggest removing your address from your profile (anyone and everyone can see it) for your own safety and privacy.

Cheers!

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by kevers7290

Hey, I realize you are a new member, so first of all--hello and welcome!

Just some advice, I would strongly suggest removing your address from your profile (anyone and everyone can see it) for your own safety and privacy.

Cheers!

I'm 99% sure that's a bot.

[kevers7290]

^Gotcha, I guess I should have assumed based on the broken English.

[professorwho]

March Comes in Like a Lion 3月のライオン Sangatsu no Lion
(Anime Limited, UK)


Disc 1 Bitrate

Japanese LPCM 2.0 (48kHz, 24-bit)
English LPCM 2.0 (48kHz, 24-bit)

























Sangatsu no Lion is beautiful. On an artistic level, like most Shaft works, the cinematography is stunning. The framing and composition are perfect for the series, and the editing of sound and visual is too good.

That said, image quality is not 100% perfect. There is some source banding and aliasing, but most of it is very minor, and cannot be seen in motion. Some shots look worse than others, but I doubt anyone will consider it terrible or unwatchable.

I'm 98% certain this is a clone of the AoA release, just re-authored to Region B, and with an All The Anime logo before the menu. So yes, this is Region B locked- however, take note that- for some reason- the All The Anime logo is presented in PAL 25 fps. Even if you have a Region Free player and can play Region B titles, please make sure your TV can display PAL frame rates, or your player can convert it to NTSC frame rates (my player does the later).

The Japanese LPCM 2.0 track is flawless. That said, much of the sound design relies on silence, for visual storytelling, so there aren't many stand out moments audibly- though I don't have a surround system, perhaps decoding it to upmix into surrounds may provide an engrossing experience. That said, when there is sound, and even when there isn't, no audible compression is in the mix.

The English translation is very good, which is strange, considering Aniplex's track record. Perhaps the minimal amount of dialogue in the series helped the overall quality.

I 100% recommend Sangatsu. It's possibly my anime of the 2010-2019 decade- up there with Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, Kill la Kill, Oregairu 2 and a few others. It's also one of the most depressing anime I've seen, with intense drama that will surely make you tear up at least once in its 44 episode run.

[kk1]

Hmmm now which to keep as I got both...maybe I'll wait until the AOA sets go OOP.

[NLScavenger]

Another Lupin comparison, this time also with the French Black Box BD screenshots from the Anime-HD.fr review

https://slow.pics/c/dOddCbWn

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I'm never touching a Yamato Video product again. Not that the Black Box BD is great because of the frozen grain nonsense in the master, but holy crap at all the processing in the Yamato Video BD.

And they also based their subs on English fansubs that are apparently fixed-up versions of HK bootleg DVD subs. SMH.

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Cells will be a clone.

Cells can't be a clone. Aniplex's BD is 3 discs whereas the AUS/UK release is 2 discs.
I also got my copy of AnoHana in today and it's anything but a clone of the Aniplex release. It's on 2 BD25s @~3.6gb an episode with incorrect gamma and no chapter markers for the OP/EDs. Yay.

EDIT: Having checked the AoA BDMV size it appears all the episodes are all but exactly half the size of their Aniplex equivalents. Bitrate of episode 1 is just under 18mbps.