The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[AreaFive]

Are there any notable differences between Funimation's 2013 blu-ray release of Akira and the 2017 steelbook release? I seem to recall that they aren't the same disc but I can't remember what the differences were.

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by Footlong Shoe

That said, Rightstuf currently has the product labelled as "4K HDR" so someone should probably let them know.

Definitely, if it turns out to not have HDR, they are going to have some unhappy customers.

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

Are there any notable differences between Funimation's 2013 blu-ray release of Akira and the 2017 steelbook release? I seem to recall that they aren't the same disc but I can't remember what the differences were.

Same. Discs. Save for a handful exceptions (you can find them at the bottom here) FUNimation doesn't make new discs.

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Same. Discs. Save for a handful exceptions (you can find them at the bottom here) FUNimation doesn't make new discs.

Thanks, perhaps I'm thinking of the Funi release vs. Manga or something. I need more cofffee

[BigOnAnime]

You're probably thinking about the Bandai Visual Blu-ray vs. the FUNimation Blu-ray where while FUNimation had the inferior audio, it had better video quality, had more film grain, and got rid of the windowboxing. It also had actual subtitles as opposed to dubtitles. The regular Blu-ray included with the upcoming (botched) 4K release should be new, but also inferior.

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

You're probably thinking about the Bandai Visual Blu-ray vs. the FUNimation Blu-ray where while FUNimation had the inferior audio, it had better video quality, had more film grain, and got rid of the windowboxing. It also had actual subtitles as opposed to dubtitles. The regular Blu-ray included with the upcoming (botched) 4K release should be new, but also inferior.

That's what it was. Thank you.

[professorwho]

No Japanese LPCM 2.0 track on the FUNimation. Only the awful 5.1 “hypersonic” revisionist trash. So there’s no 100% perfect Akira release at all unless one buys multiple releases and combines them together into one.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx

Can't be 100% perfect if it has DNR anyway

I'm referring to 1080p copies. In no way would the UHD even be considered in the running.

[jala12]

Any word yet on how the new disc for Sentai's Garden of Words blu-ray re-release looks?

[tuffy]

Originally Posted by jala12

Any word yet on how the new disc for Sentai's Garden of Words blu-ray re-release looks?

It looks good to my untrained eye.

But I can say that they came up with a novel approach for adding the commentary track as lossless audio. Because the film is so short, they've given the commentary its own separate title on disc, which means it doesn't take up any extra bitrate for the main feature.

[jala12]

Originally Posted by tuffy

It looks good to my untrained eye.

But I can say that they came up with a novel approach for adding the commentary track as lossless audio. Because the film is so short, they've given the commentary its own separate title on disc, which means it doesn't take up any extra bitrate for the main feature.

Good to know! Though I'm also waiting for folks to do comparisons between discs so I can determine if upgrading is worthy or not, like what happened with Children Who Chase Lost Voices.

[professorwho]

And now Geoff says the Akira 4K looks... good? Unusual turn of events, that's for sure. Maybe it's not as bad as the screencaps made it look...

[kevers7290]

Professorwho--do you have a list of MediaOCD encodes that are not Discotek releases? I know Mr. Sevakis did some work for NISA, Anime Ltd. and Viz. You can PM me if posting it publicly is not allowed.

[BigOnAnime]

I'm not professorwho, but I do know where a good amount are listed, Justin's ANN encyclopedia page. Justin entered much of this himself, mainly the stuff when he wasn't being credited on the actual release, though that's only some, not all.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...le.php?id=6794

[kevers7290]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

I'm not professorwho, but I do know where a good amount are listed, Justin's ANN encyclopedia page. Justin entered much of this himself, mainly the stuff when he wasn't being credited on the actual release, though that's only some, not all.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...le.php?id=6794

^Thanks for that. Justin also did the UK Escaflowne discs, correct?

[NLScavenger]

^ Yes, except for the movie standard edition which is port of Funi disc. Ultimate Edition movie disc is by MediaOCD.

Some titles that are not credited on ANN:

- Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin I - IV (Anime Limited)
- The Tatami Galaxy (Anime Limited)
- Persona 3 films (Anime Limited)
- A Silent Voice (Anime Limited)

iirc he's only credited in Gundam The Origin I - IV in one of the menus.

He also authored the Blu-ray of Outlaw Star for Anime Limited, but he didn't do the compression because it is a remux of JP BD.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

^ Yes, except for the movie standard edition which is port of Funi disc. Ultimate Edition movie disc is by MediaOCD.

What about the Limited Edition?

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by kk1

What about the Limited Edition?

LE seems to use Funi disc for the movie since it is a repack of the standard editions.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

LE seems to use Funi disc for the movie since it is a repack of the standard editions.

Dang

[NLScavenger]

Mobile Suit Gundam V - VI - Nozomi BD vs Anime Limited UK/FR BD

Mostly screenshots of darker shots to show the better compression in the US BD. The US BD is still not quite on the same level as Justin Sevakis' work on the UK/FR BD of I-IV when comparing the footage in IV to the recap in V, but it is good enough for me (considering that the superior alternative is much more expensive). It's too bad that Anime Limited didn't use Justin for V-VI.

US BD


UK/FR BD (Com'On Screen)



UK/FR BD The Origin IV (MediaOCD)


BDInfo US BD The Origin V

Disc Title: GUNDAM_ORIGIN_LOUM_BD1
Disc Label: GUNDAM_ORIGIN_LOUM_BD1
Disc Size: 27,851,235,840 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 26,984,122,368 bytes
Length: 1:24:05.290
Total Bitrate: 42.79 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 27931 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4608 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4608 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 3.208 kbps
Subtitle: English / 44.306 kbps

BDInfo US BD The Origin VI

Disc Title: GUNDAM_ORIGIN_LOUM_BD2
Disc Label: GUNDAM_ORIGIN_LOUM_BD2
Disc Size: 27,780,612,988 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 26,895,433,728 bytes
Length: 1:23:51.026
Total Bitrate: 42.77 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 27907 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4608 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4608 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 3.344 kbps
Subtitle: English / 49.785 kbps

BDInfo UK/FR BD The Origin V

Disc Title: GUNDAM_V_VI
Disc Label: GUNDAM_V_VI
Disc Size: 39,139,760,626 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 18,393,655,296 bytes
Length: 1:24:12.297
Total Bitrate: 29.13 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 14288 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4306 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1958 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4298 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1998 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Subtitle: French / 32.569 kbps
Subtitle: English / 34.731 kbps
Subtitle: English / 0.959 kbps

BDInfo UK/FR BD The Origin VI

Disc Title: GUNDAM_V_VI
Disc Label: GUNDAM_V_VI
Disc Size: 39,139,760,626 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00006.MPLS
Size: 19,409,031,168 bytes
Length: 1:23:58.283
Total Bitrate: 30.82 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 15237 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4377 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  2174 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  4464 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  2213 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Subtitle: French / 33.459 kbps
Subtitle: English / 38.844 kbps
Subtitle: French / 1.187 kbps