The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 279 - Blu-ray Forum

NLScavenger · 01-19-2021, 10:16 PM

Russian MC Entertainment DVD, ivtc'd screencaps:

https://i.imgur.com/RPP9DXJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/6fsDumw.png
https://i.imgur.com/N8ihBP3.png
https://i.imgur.com/q3Rx88z.png

jsevakis · 01-19-2021, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoscoTheMan82

If I've followed things correctly Cyber City's upscale was done by Justin, don't know where your getting it wasn't

It wasn't. I did fix it up a bit (mostly fixed black levels, anti-aliasing, and some manual retouching of problem areas, but I did not do the upscale and I still don't know what method they used to do it.

NLScavenger · 01-19-2021, 11:39 PM

https://ibb.co/4WS4vxD
https://ibb.co/WkjFgG0 Russian DVD:https://i.imgur.com/FuuItSE.png
https://ibb.co/9Tf5mvK
https://ibb.co/PTZzxP0
https://ibb.co/3rtDG0m
https://ibb.co/kHC4VKB Russian DVD: https://i.imgur.com/ebv9X63.png

kk1 · 01-20-2021, 04:24 AM

So both Crunchyroll and Funimation are both simulcasting Attack on Titan's new season and I usually watch on CR but this week's episode was really good so on a whim I decided to rewatch it but on Funimation instead. And WOW the subs on Funimation's are so lazy by comparison, during the eye catch in the middle of the episode they usually have a bunch of text explaining something from the show. CR translated all the text but Funimation barely did 1/3 of it (I'd put up screenshots but they are major spoilers for anyone not caught up). Not looking forward to the day Funimation has complete control of everything

BigOnAnime · 01-20-2021, 05:28 AM

That would be due to a limitation on FUNimation's video player for subtitles (Crunchyroll and FUNimationNow should be using the same script for AOT S4), I've got entire Twitter threads about how awful it is. It blows my mind how this still hasn't been fixed even after they were bought by Sony, and FINALLY made the subtitles a bit more legible (the outlines still suck which is why I use yellow subs). They're failing at an extremely basic thing everyone has gotten right since the late 2000s. Even 1990s DVD subtitles run circles around these.
https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...35188138639360
https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...53052067323904
https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...18210759761924

Even their hardsubs suffer, like a subtitle staying on for way too long (that Fruits Basket line is from the opening title screen, it was on-screen that long). Sometimes they're also missing, the song lyric subs were missing on an episode for Heroic Age for some reason. For whatever reason, they have to use hardsubs on the dubbed streams.

Clark Kent · 01-20-2021, 07:02 AM

Screenshots from the Bartender: 15th Anniversary Premium Edition. Distributed by Shout Factory here in the States but they didn't author this set.

https://www.doblu.com/2021/01/18/bar...lu-ray-review/

NLScavenger · 01-20-2021, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

[Show spoiler]Belladonna of Sadness - Cinelicious Pics US BD / Anime Limited UK BD

It's very much a shame that this suffers from I-frame pulsing. The I-frames show how this 4K remaster could have looked if compression was adequate.

Explanation of I-frame pulsing from Kentai's Dawn of the Dead Italian 4K remastered review:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kentai

If this were the only issue I'd do my best to look past it, but the compression is frustrating as well. The good news is that the artifacts aren't as blatantly ugly could be, but they're better described as an issue of consistency, rather than overall quality. The phrase "I-Frame Pulsing" has been used to describe the issue, and it's not a bad one because it does sum up the issue... but in terminology that means bugger all to anyone who's never actually encoded video before. So forgive me for giving a primer on this, but it's actually relevant to understanding where things may well have gone wrong.

Most of the video compression algorithms we use to this day - MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AVC, and now HEVC - are based around the notion that a sequence of frames have commonality that can be exploited and replicated between frames with minimal changes. These smaller segments compressed together are called Group Of Pictures - or a "GOP". While I sure didn't vote for them to be the defacto standard to Make Video Quality Great Again, the way their trickle-down compression works goes something like this:

I-Frames have the least level of compression, and are thus easiest to decode. They're also the largest frames in the GOP as a result. I-frame only videos are typically used for broadcasting and editing purposes for these very reasons, but have to have a dramatically higher bitrate to match quality with "Long GOP" compression as a result.

P-Frames reference the previous frames in the GOP, sequentially, until the next I-Frame is hit. These are smaller, but are slower to decode since they're ultimately referencing previous macroblocks. They're handy enough, and easier to read for certain applications without playback funkiness (ie: Media Servers), but if you're going down this road you may as well go all the way in.

B-Frames are even smaller at similar quality levels, but they work by pulling blocks from the frames both ahead and behind, making them an absolute beast to play back on weaker hardware, and more or less impossible to get to function outside of standard forward playback without hitches.

A typical MPEG-2 GOP may look something like "IBBBPBBBPBBB", at which point another I-Frame gets punched in and the pattern repeats. AVC is a bit more flexible in that it can have GOP sizes from 1 to 250 frames without playback taking a hit, but smaller GOP sizes lead to higher quality, and as a way to avoid decoding issues Blu-ray specifically demands a 24-frame max GOP for standard progressive content.

Still with me after all that nerd shit? Cool! So, what happens when your bitrate is adequate and your I-Frames look great, but your B-Frames and P-Frames aren't encoded to the same standard - either because you did a one-pass encode that doesn't properly allocate the bits where they need to go, or because your multipass algorithms are straight up crap? It means that some frames are nice and crisp and sharp and look like your high quality master, and then the next several frames - while perhaps not terrible - are substantially softer, more diffused, and uneven looking compared to the I-Frames. In other words, the good frames "pulse" in and out, while the bulk of the transfer is the fuzzier, blotchier B/P-Frames that aren't anywhere near to the same standard.

Left: I-frame | Right: next B- or P-frame

Belladonna of Sadness

FR/DE BD is better, though it is not artifact-free as you can see here:

FR/DE BD - US/UK BD

Film grain appears more monochromatic on FR/DE BD than in US/UK BD, which seems to show some color in grain. Perhaps chroma/grain is processed like the German UHD of Crying Freeman?

FR/DE BD - US/UK BD

Screenshots below are same frame as the Caps-a-holic comparison.

Eurozoom (FR) / Rapid Eye Movies (DE)

Cinelicious Pics (US) / Anime Limited (UK)

BDInfo FR/DE BD

Code:

Disc Title: BELLADONNA
Disc Size: 24 866 782 318 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00018.MPLS
Size: 17 734 327 872 bytes
Length: 1:26:16.958
Total Bitrate: 27,41 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 24388 kbps / 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
* Subtitle: German / 19,899 kbps
Subtitle: French / 16,033 kbps

BDInfo US/UK BD

Code:

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 1:27:18.750 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   22.538.944.512 bytes
Total Bitrate:          34,42 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29667 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        1044 kbps       1.0 / 48 kHz / 1044 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        1800 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1800 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         10,237 kbps

OutOfBoose · 01-20-2021, 12:53 PM

Ouch. 808 looks bad. I think Japanse DVD from 00s looked better.

NLScavenger · 01-20-2021, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Film grain appears more monochromatic on FR/DE BD than in US/UK BD, which seems to show some color in grain. Perhaps chroma/grain is processed like the German UHD of Crying Freeman?

Chroma looks filtered

FR/DE BD: original / luma / blueness / redness

US/UK BD: original / luma / blueness / redness

Speaking of chroma....

Space Battleship Yamato 2199 - Funimation BD vs Bandai BD

The chroma is blurry, ringing, bleeding and shifted to the right. It's particularly noticeable in reds:

Funimation BD: original / luma / blueness / redness

Bandai BD: original / luma / blueness / redness

Funimation BD

Bandai BD

Funimation BD bitrate episode #1

AVG: 29999 kbps | MAX: 40316 kbps

Bandai BD bitrate episode #1

AVG: 38961 kbps | MAX: 44437 kbps

kk1 · 01-20-2021, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

[Show spoiler]

Thanks for the info. Here's a link to my post if you would like to use it as another example

(and again beware spoilers for AOT) https://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtop...pg=10#58727202

Mangaranga · 01-20-2021, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Space Battleship Yamato 2199 - Funimation BD vs Bandai BD

The chroma is blurry, ringing, bleeding and shifted to the right. It's particularly noticeable in reds.

I'm not going to pretend I entirely understand what's happened here. I've noticed this before on FuniBDs but didn't know what it was. My interpretation is that the colour information is shifted to the right of the actual image data during the encoding process and encoded poorly? What actually happened here and what could have caused this?

kuroshi · 01-20-2021, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsevakis

It wasn't. I did fix it up a bit (mostly fixed black levels, anti-aliasing, and some manual retouching of problem areas, but I did not do the upscale and I still don't know what method they used to do it.

Am I correct in assuming the discotek release will be identical, since the release date is already in March.

jsevakis · 01-20-2021, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuroshi

Am I correct in assuming the discotek release will be identical, since the release date is already in March.

Yes it's the same disc. It's not like better elements can be used, so there's really no way to improve it more.

StuPod · 01-20-2021, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

That would be due to a limitation on FUNimation's video player for subtitles (Crunchyroll and FUNimationNow should be using the same script for AOT S4), I've got entire Twitter threads about how awful it is. It blows my mind how this still hasn't been fixed even after they were bought by Sony, and FINALLY made the subtitles a bit more legible (the outlines still suck which is why I use yellow subs). They're failing at an extremely basic thing everyone has gotten right since the late 2000s. Even 1990s DVD subtitles run circles around these.

I've been watching Cells at Work S2 and it's really annoying how every character introduction comes with a huge box of important text that just gets left completely untranslated, and yet they took the bother to caption every single sound effect that shows up for a split second.
Great priorities there.

jala12 · 01-21-2021, 02:19 AM

I'm glad that I kept my Bandai 2199 BDs. Though I had no such luxury with 2202 since the JP BDs had no subs. Did Funi's 2202 BDs also have similar chroma issues?

SpaceDandy · 01-21-2021, 09:54 AM

Spice & Wolf (France - Black Box)
Authoring: IDP Home Video
Episode 1 captures

Episode 1 bitrate (avg 25.1, max 46.7 Mbps) - the plot is completely unreadable due to the large standard deviation, enjoy!
Media-Info: (incl. x264 settings)

[Show spoiler]

Code:

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Encoded date                             : UTC 2021-01-21 09:21:57
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Video
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Menu
00:00:00.000                             : en:Chapter 01
00:01:31.091                             : en:Chapter 02
00:09:37.159                             : en:Chapter 03
00:22:10.996                             : en:Chapter 04
00:23:41.002                             : en:Chapter 05

I think this release made quite some people trash their FUNi BD back in the day as it was one of their in-house upscale that did not end well. I don't know how it compares to the JP or the (recent) DE releases. There's definitely some slight banding here and there but it might be in the source.

EDIT:
Comparison with JP boxset, captures by hissatsu via BigOnAnime:

Code:

https://slow.pics/c/ephESJzj

Comparison with the episodes… something is not right here. Did hissatsu mix some captures with the US BD?

Code:

https://slow.pics/c/RGCvgEym

.... and now I'm confused by his very remark in the fandom post bulletin board:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissatsu

As for it being produced in 720i, that results in combing during many shots in the episodes themselves (but not in the OP/ED). But I find that forcing a blend deinterlace (even though the video is 1080P) during playback does wonders for getting rid of that. Blend deinterlacing is lazy and not proper deinterlacing, but you know what, here it works really well. It certainly looks better and I can't see any actual loss of detail.

Maybe the first and the second JP BD uses a different upscale? Any clue?

Jeo · 01-21-2021, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceDandy

.... and now I'm confused by his very remark in the fandom post bulletin board:
Maybe the first and the second JP BD uses a different upscale? Any clue?

IIRC, the JP BD Box of the first season is a 720i master, the one included in the BD Box that houses both seasons uses a newer, deinterlaced one.

Mangaranga · 01-21-2021, 02:48 PM

Basically the above. Spice and Wolf's first season is part of a somewhat exclusive club of 720i anime productions (another one off the top of my head is Canaan). The series was initially released on BD in 2010(?) in Japan, and later as a BD Box in 2013 and 2016 using new and improved encodes that fix some of the problems the original release had. Apparently it still suffered from some pretty bad banding though. The Funimation BD on the other hand is an absolutely awful in house upscale of their DVD master.

NLScavenger · 01-21-2021, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jala12

I'm glad that I kept my Bandai 2199 BDs. Though I had no such luxury with 2202 since the JP BDs had no subs. Did Funi's 2202 BDs also have similar chroma issues?

Doesn't seem to have the chroma issue

BigOnAnime · 01-21-2021, 04:47 PM

I would have linked to this post that directly embedded links, Fandom Post is on the verge of going under soon.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...9#post12594319

He didn't have caps of FUNimation's BD as he never bought it. He was comparing screenshots with Sensuifu's of the FUNimation BD which can't be viewed anymore because they were uploaded to ImageShack which purged all images that were uploaded by free users 5 years ago. If anyone has the FUNimation BD, it'd be nice if they could put up comparison images so people can see how much of a difference there was between an upscale of a DVD release and an HD-native release.

01-19-2021, 10:16 PM	#5561
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	Russian MC Entertainment DVD, ivtc'd screencaps: https://i.imgur.com/RPP9DXJ.png https://i.imgur.com/6fsDumw.png https://i.imgur.com/N8ihBP3.png https://i.imgur.com/q3Rx88z.png Last edited by NLScavenger; 01-19-2021 at 10:21 PM.

01-20-2021, 05:28 AM	#5565
BigOnAnime Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Minnesota, USA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:671 DVD collection:714	That would be due to a limitation on FUNimation's video player for subtitles (Crunchyroll and FUNimationNow should be using the same script for AOT S4), I've got entire Twitter threads about how awful it is. It blows my mind how this still hasn't been fixed even after they were bought by Sony, and FINALLY made the subtitles a bit more legible (the outlines still suck which is why I use yellow subs). They're failing at an extremely basic thing everyone has gotten right since the late 2000s. Even 1990s DVD subtitles run circles around these. https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...35188138639360 https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...53052067323904 https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...18210759761924 Even their hardsubs suffer, like a subtitle staying on for way too long (that Fruits Basket line is from the opening title screen, it was on-screen that long). Sometimes they're also missing, the song lyric subs were missing on an episode for Heroic Age for some reason. For whatever reason, they have to use hardsubs on the dubbed streams. Last edited by BigOnAnime; 01-20-2021 at 05:34 AM.

01-21-2021, 04:47 PM	#5580
BigOnAnime Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Minnesota, USA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:671 DVD collection:714	I would have linked to this post that directly embedded links, Fandom Post is on the verge of going under soon. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...9#post12594319 He didn't have caps of FUNimation's BD as he never bought it. He was comparing screenshots with Sensuifu's of the FUNimation BD which can't be viewed anymore because they were uploaded to ImageShack which purged all images that were uploaded by free users 5 years ago. If anyone has the FUNimation BD, it'd be nice if they could put up comparison images so people can see how much of a difference there was between an upscale of a DVD release and an HD-native release. Last edited by BigOnAnime; 01-21-2021 at 04:57 PM.

01-19-2021, 11:39 PM	#5563
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	https://ibb.co/4WS4vxD https://ibb.co/WkjFgG0 Russian DVD:https://i.imgur.com/FuuItSE.png https://ibb.co/9Tf5mvK https://ibb.co/PTZzxP0 https://ibb.co/3rtDG0m https://ibb.co/kHC4VKB Russian DVD: https://i.imgur.com/ebv9X63.png

01-20-2021, 04:24 AM	#5564
kk1 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2015 Blu-ray collection:610	So both Crunchyroll and Funimation are both simulcasting Attack on Titan's new season and I usually watch on CR but this week's episode was really good so on a whim I decided to rewatch it but on Funimation instead. And WOW the subs on Funimation's are so lazy by comparison, during the eye catch in the middle of the episode they usually have a bunch of text explaining something from the show. CR translated all the text but Funimation barely did 1/3 of it (I'd put up screenshots but they are major spoilers for anyone not caught up). Not looking forward to the day Funimation has complete control of everything

01-20-2021, 07:02 AM	#5566
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Screenshots from the Bartender: 15th Anniversary Premium Edition. Distributed by Shout Factory here in the States but they didn't author this set. https://www.doblu.com/2021/01/18/bar...lu-ray-review/

01-20-2021, 12:53 PM	#5568
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	Ouch. 808 looks bad. I think Japanse DVD from 00s looked better.

01-21-2021, 02:19 AM	#5575
jala12 Special Member Member since:Apr 2011	I'm glad that I kept my Bandai 2199 BDs. Though I had no such luxury with 2202 since the JP BDs had no subs. Did Funi's 2202 BDs also have similar chroma issues?

01-21-2021, 02:48 PM	#5578
Mangaranga Senior Member Member since:Oct 2014	Basically the above. Spice and Wolf's first season is part of a somewhat exclusive club of 720i anime productions (another one off the top of my head is Canaan). The series was initially released on BD in 2010(?) in Japan, and later as a BD Box in 2013 and 2016 using new and improved encodes that fix some of the problems the original release had. Apparently it still suffered from some pretty bad banding though. The Funimation BD on the other hand is an absolutely awful in house upscale of their DVD master.

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