The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 289 - Blu-ray Forum

professorwho · 03-13-2021, 01:41 AM

Chibi Maruko-chan

(Not from me, but from a friend not on the forums who bought the sets and let me look at the first episode)

Looks shockingly okay despite the pathetic bitrate due to there being 20+ episodes per disc;

Well, the encoding is shockingly okay at least. Still, very heavily DNR'd, though I've seen far worse than this.

Audio is LPCM 2.0 16-bit Dual Mono

Also, here's a first for a JP BD... the x264 encoding settings were left in! Here's the full MediaInfo;

Code:

Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 1.74 GiB
Duration                                 : 24 min 8 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 10.3 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2021-03-12 22:52:55
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.16.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.16.1 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 24 min 8 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 8 800 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 38.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.177
Stream size                              : 1.48 GiB (85%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 155
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=1 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / minigop=1 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=1 / weightp=1 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=8800 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=38464 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Audio
ID                                       : 2
ID in the original source medium         : 4352 (0x1100)
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                                 : 24 min 8 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS (1600 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 265 MiB (15%)
Title                                    : Stereo
Language                                 : Japanese
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Menu
00:00:00.000                             : en:Chapter 01
00:01:30.590                             : en:Chapter 02
00:12:15.151                             : en:Chapter 03
00:22:21.757                             : en:Chapter 04
00:22:41.568                             : en:Chapter 05
00:24:07.446                             : en:Chapter 06

NLScavenger · 03-13-2021, 06:21 AM

At least it's not interlaced unlike a few other releases from TC Entertainment

jd213 · 03-13-2021, 12:05 PM

Nice to see Golden Time anime like this getting released on BD at all, would buy it myself if I had the time to watch it

NLScavenger · 03-15-2021, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Cyborg 009: The Cyborg Soldier - Discotek Media US SDBD vs R2J NTSC DVD vs R4/R2 PAL DVD

Left: Episode 27 / Right: Episode 28

It's a damn shame the rest of the series is mastered in composhite.

Logan Jones · 03-16-2021, 01:43 AM

Controversial opinion: I don't really like how the composite video artifacts were handled on this release. I can understand the rainbowing, and the dot crawl is distracting, that much is true. But the filters used to mitigate the artifacts... eughhh. I think it made it look a little worse.

NLScavenger · 03-16-2021, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan Jones

Controversial opinion: I don't really like how the composite video artifacts were handled on this release. I can understand the rainbowing, and the dot crawl is distracting, that much is true. But the filters used to mitigate the artifacts... eughhh. I think it made it look a little worse.

There are definitely some issues with the filtering. The filtering creates some artifacts that I don't find super distracting in most cases, but in some cases they are. Episode 32 has the worst of those artifacts.

Honestly, the issues of the R2J DVD in the composite video eps aren't too bad most of the time. If I'll ever rewatch the composite video eps, I'll probably watch the R2J DVD remux.

kevers7290 · 03-16-2021, 06:13 PM

I didn't find anything with the search function, so I'll go ahead and ask: any differences between the US (Sentai Selects) Children Who Chase Lost Voices and the UK (Anime Limited)?

professorwho · 03-16-2021, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevers7290

I didn't find anything with the search function, so I'll go ahead and ask: any differences between the US (Sentai Selects) Children Who Chase Lost Voices and the UK (Anime Limited)?

I believe they’re the same disc. There’s one version form AL that has the bonus disc of extras and one that doesn’t.

yoloswag4jesus · 03-17-2021, 08:09 AM

whats the story with discotek's cyber city oedo bd release? carbon copy of the uk release?

jsevakis · 03-17-2021, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoloswag4jesus

whats the story with discotek's cyber city oedo bd release? carbon copy of the uk release?

Yes, with very minor tweaks (added epilepsy warning, trimmed the Anime Ltd promo slate off the end of the documentary)

sagadego · 03-17-2021, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsevakis

Yes, with very minor tweaks (added epilepsy warning, trimmed the Anime Ltd promo slate off the end of the documentary)

and still better then the crusty CPM dvd release

Bobo1313 · 03-17-2021, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sagadego

and still better then the crusty CPM dvd release

I just watched it last night and I agree. Maybe its a benefit of having a pretty small TV? Glad to have it in my collection sitting next to the other Kawajiri classics.

Gary B. · 03-18-2021, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsevakis

Not sure what you mean by “Pan & scan motion effect.” The show is animated at 30 FPS, including pans. It is an upscale, because it was an early digipaint show. Sorry it’s not to your liking, but that’s what the show is and always has been.

It's the cheap looking panning across motionless images, likely due to a lower budget? I love the story, characters, and I love giant robot anime (Mazinger Z, Giant Gorg, etc.) but this is one ugly looking show! It got less distracting after watching the first few episodes. I guess after the 90s I am just not a big fan of the look of most anime due to the digital painting.

NLScavenger · 03-18-2021, 08:46 AM

Little Nemo - Discotek Media US BD vs Koch Media DE BD vs TC Entertainment JP BD

Posted screenshots from DE & JP BDs before, but this time I also have footage and BDInfo from US BD via Doud. DE BD is the best release of the film, both in terms of colors and compression.

Discotek Media BD

TC Entertainment

Koch Media BD - Japanese cut

Koch Media BD - Hemdale Pictures cut

Discotek Media BDInfo

Code:

Disc Label: Little Nemo
Disc Size: 24,599,994,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 01000.MPLS
Size: 20,481,325,056 bytes
Length: 1:34:54.647
Total Bitrate: 28.77 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 23469 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -24dB
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 25.236 kbps

TC Entertainment BD

Code:

Disc Label: BFTD_0312
Disc Size: 23,775,354,292 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 18,970,736,640 bytes
Length: 1:34:57.650
Total Bitrate: 26.64 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21924 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit

Koch Media BDInfo - Japanese cut

Code:

Disc Label: Little Nemo - Abenteuer im Schlummerland
Disc Size: 48,993,614,371 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00006.MPLS
Size: 21,081,513,984 bytes
Length: 1:34:51.977
Total Bitrate: 29.63 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 25975 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: German / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1013 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1009 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 16-bit)
Subtitle: German / 2.016 kbps
Subtitle: German / 22.199 kbps

Koch Media BDInfo - Hemdale Pictures cut

Code:

Disc Label: Little Nemo - Abenteuer im Schlummerland
Disc Size: 48,993,614,371 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00005.MPLS
Size: 19,458,945,024 bytes
Length: 1:23:57.073
Total Bitrate: 30.91 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 25963 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: German / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /   989 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: German / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  2206 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)

NLScavenger · 03-18-2021, 08:16 PM

5 Centimeters Per Second - Dynit BD vs ComixWave Global Edition BD (Discotek/Manga UK/Anime Limited UK)

From what I've seen there isn't much of a difference most of the time, so I did not bother to take a lot of screenshots, buuuuuut.... there are some shots in the ComixWave Global Edition BD that have been debanded to the point that detail is erased:

Comparison (alternate link)

Code:

https://slow.pics/c/1F7gUHNT

BDInfo Dynit BD

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     5cm al secondo
Disc Label:     5 CENTIMETRI AL SECONDO
Disc Size:      24,553,130,147 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 1:02:44.260 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   20,406,549,888 bytes
Total Bitrate:          43.37 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34647 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Italian         3667 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  3667 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Italian         978 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   978 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Italian         1682 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  1682 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         29.815 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         4.057 kbps

NLScavenger · 03-19-2021, 08:46 PM

Crusher Joe: The Movie - Discotek Media BD

Encountered some issues with ripping the full frame disc. Hopefully nothing went wrong with BDInfo scan. Had to clean the disc several times until the drive was able to rip it at a slow 2.0x speed.

1.33:1 Full Frame

1.77:1 Widescreen

BDInfo Full Frame disc

Code:

Disc Title: Crusher Joe The Movie (4x3)
Disc Label: CRUSHER JOE 4X3 DISC 1
Disc Size: 42,028,747,424 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 29,314,233,408 bytes
Length: 2:13:23.620
Total Bitrate: 29.30 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21915 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.0 / 48 kHz /  2293 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 0.765 kbps
Subtitle: English / 33.909 kbps

BDInfo Widescreen Disc

Code:

Disc Title: Crusher Joe The Movie (widescreen)
Disc Label: CRUSHER JOE MOVIE WS DISC 2
Disc Size: 24,443,288,599 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 24,154,198,464 bytes
Length: 2:13:23.620
Total Bitrate: 24.14 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 16973 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.0 / 48 kHz /  2293 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 0.765 kbps
Subtitle: English / 33.873 kbps

Funny thing is that if you load the Full Frame disc in a region B player, you'll get to see the BD vs DVD comparison video that was made to promote the Japanese BD release. You can bring up the pop up menu, but "Go Back" just restarts the comparison video. Nice troll move lmao

Ccharmanderk · 03-20-2021, 03:48 AM

Crusher Joe is one of those 80s anime movies I never got around to seeing. Discotek's release seems pretty great, as it should be coming from them. Might pick it up one of these days.

NLScavenger · 03-20-2021, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

5 Centimeters Per Second - Dynit BD vs ComixWave Global Edition BD (Discotek/Manga UK/Anime Limited UK)

From what I've seen there isn't much of a difference most of the time, so I did not bother to take a lot of screenshots, buuuuuut.... there are some shots in the ComixWave Global Edition BD that have been debanded to the point that detail is erased:

Comparison (alternate link)

Code:

https://slow.pics/c/1F7gUHNT

ComixWave 2008 BD? (I can't say with 100% certainty that these are from the ComixWave 2008 BD)

ComixWave 2011 Global Edition BD

Dynit BD

NLScavenger · 03-20-2021, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ccharmanderk

Crusher Joe is one of those 80s anime movies I never got around to seeing. Discotek's release seems pretty great, as it should be coming from them. Might pick it up one of these days.

This was a total blind buy for me, so I didn't know what to expect. Having watched the full frame disc today, I can absolutely recommend the Discotek release.

Not only is the film fantastic, but the presentation looks great and I was even more amazed by the ****ing phenomenal 4.0ch theatrical mix!

NLScavenger · 03-21-2021, 02:50 PM

Michiko & Hatchin - Funimation BD vs Media Factory BD

Media Factory BD footage and BDInfo via doud. Footage is from episodes #1 and #20.

Funimation BD

Media Factory BD

Media Factory BD episode #1 OP has a typo. Don't know if other episodes are affected

Left: Funimation / Right: Media Factory

BDInfo Funimation BD disc #1 (episodes 1 - 8)

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Michiko and Hatchin Part 1 Disc 1
Disc Label:     Michiko_and_Hatchin_P1_D1
Disc Size:      31,059,446,045 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00008.MPLS
Length:                 3:01:17.366 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   30,596,026,368 bytes
Total Bitrate:          22.50 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        15580 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         2224 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  1776 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -27dB)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        885 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   693 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps / DN -25dB)
* Dolby TrueHD Audio            English         194 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /     2 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps / DN -25dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         35.238 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         2.400 kbps

Episode #1 bitrate

Episode #20 bitrate

BDInfo Media Factory BD disc #1 (episodes 1 - 2)

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     MICHIKO_E_HATCHIN01
Disc Size:      22,585,674,550 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 0:45:14.712 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   13,179,875,328 bytes
Total Bitrate:          38.84 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        35382 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Japanese        1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit

BDInfo Media Factory BD disc #10 (episodes 19 - 20)

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     MICHIKO_E_HATCHIN10
Disc Size:      15,613,749,586 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 0:45:14.712 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   14,118,789,120 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41.61 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        38037 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Japanese        1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit

03-13-2021, 06:21 AM	#5762
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:831 Trading Score:9	At least it's not interlaced unlike a few other releases from TC Entertainment

03-13-2021, 12:05 PM	#5763
jd213 Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:less than 10 minutes from Akihabara	Nice to see Golden Time anime like this getting released on BD at all, would buy it myself if I had the time to watch it

03-16-2021, 01:43 AM	#5765
Logan Jones Member Member since:Aug 2018 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:131	Controversial opinion: I don't really like how the composite video artifacts were handled on this release. I can understand the rainbowing, and the dot crawl is distracting, that much is true. But the filters used to mitigate the artifacts... eughhh. I think it made it look a little worse.

03-16-2021, 06:13 PM	#5767
kevers7290 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2009 Trading Score:257	I didn't find anything with the search function, so I'll go ahead and ask: any differences between the US (Sentai Selects) Children Who Chase Lost Voices and the UK (Anime Limited)?

03-17-2021, 08:09 AM	#5769
yoloswag4jesus Active Member Member since:Nov 2016	whats the story with discotek's cyber city oedo bd release? carbon copy of the uk release?

03-20-2021, 03:48 AM	#5777
Ccharmanderk Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2015	Crusher Joe is one of those 80s anime movies I never got around to seeing. Discotek's release seems pretty great, as it should be coming from them. Might pick it up one of these days.

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