The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[mp3dom]

There's only a difference in gamma on the luma channel:
http://117.imagebam.com/download/C7J.../US_Fixed1.png

(By the way, both FUNi's Psycho Pass and AL's Cowboy Bebop were encoded using the same encoder)

[vincentric]

If still interested, had a quick look at the P4 DVD PQ courtesy of Sentai's limited edition boxset. While the Blu-ray is an obvious improvement (better compression, resolution and less banding), the DVD overall seems to upscale decently enough.

I screencapped a few comparisons.

01 - P4 DVD | P4 BD

02 - P4 DVD | P4 BD

03 - P4 DVD | P4 BD

04 - P4 DVD | P4 BD

05 - P4 DVD | P4 BD

The DVD screencaps were taken at native 480p then bicubic upscaled to 1080p.

[Naiera]

Can anyone get us some info on the Infinite Stratos 2 Blu-ray release? My friend told me it's one BD50 (with 28GB used ) and two BD25s.

[Kiramay]

Originally Posted by vincentric

If still interested, had a quick look at the P4 DVD PQ courtesy of Sentai's limited edition boxset. While the Blu-ray is an obvious improvement (better compression, resolution and less banding), the DVD overall seems to upscale decently enough.

Thank you so much! This was very helpful, I feel better about being able to make a more educated choice for this purchase.

[vincentric]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Can anyone get us some info on the Infinite Stratos 2 Blu-ray release? My friend told me it's one BD50 (with 28GB used ) and two BD25s.

Would share info but don't own it. That's terrible though, they might as well have just used three BD25s and called it a day.

[Naiera]

Sounds like a huge letdown. I've currently cancelled my plans to order it when my MasterCard turns just before release.

[Naiera]

It's not related to video quality, but I'd like to note that NISA made a little mistake when they mastered the first disc of Nyaruko

[vincentric]

Wanted to share a few more comparisons of the massive improvements found in the Sentai Selects 2016 release of Children Who Chase Lost Voices over the initial 2012 version - namely corrected brightness, improved compression, reduced banding, and elimination of horizontal line glitches.

01 - 2012 | 2016

02 - 2012 | 2016

03 - 2012 | 2016

04 - 2012 | 2016

As for the amount of data, the 2012 release was given around 15.5gb of data for its video alone and the 2016 release increased that to around 27gb. A nearly 12gb bump in video data, excellent work. I no longer have access to the crappy 2012 disc but here's a look at the excellent 2016 one -

[Naiera]

That's a definite doubledip then. Good thing I only watched it once.

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by vincentric

Wanted to share a few more comparisons of the massive improvements found in the Sentai Selects 2016 release of Children Who Chase Lost Voices over the initial 2012 version - namely corrected brightness, improved compression, reduced banding, and elimination of horizontal line glitches.

As for the amount of data, the 2012 release was given around 15.5gb of data for its video alone and the 2016 release increased that to around 27gb. A nearly 12gb bump in video data, excellent work. I no longer have access to the crappy 2012 disc but here's a look at the excellent 2016 one

I meant to do a post about this months ago but I never got around to it. Pretty much as you said - massive improvement over the old release. I did spot a few (and I mean few) instances of weird compression in far shots and I noticed they actually fixed the glitched frame from the 2012 release. BDInfo's for both discs can be found below. Have been sitting on them since 14th November...

2012


2016

[vincentric]

Good stuff and no worries, your previous post mentioning the improvements was what got me to double dip on it. I actually didn't enjoy the movie that much but just enough so that the video nerd in me had to see it again for the improved picture quality. Got it for dirt cheap at least.

[zrdb]

Originally Posted by Naiera

It's not related to video quality, but I'd like to note that NISA made a little mistake when they mastered the first disc of Nyaruko

That should make all the Catholics happy.

[Nostalgic Twilight]

I don't believe that BigOnAnime ever got the chance to share hissatsu's comparison for Record of Lodoss War, so I decided to go ahead and quote it:

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by hissatsu

Lodoss has always been in need of new masters - there have been things in serious need of fixing since the original release that they've never bother to correct. I distinctly remember than even in multi-generation VHS fansub copies from the early nineties, you could still easily see that the OP looked much worse for several episodes after the first (See episode 2 screenshots for 3-5). Several episodes looked rather "muddy" at best. But no matter how many different releases it got (Original VHS and LD, LD box, DVD box and singles) it never got a new telecine. None of the releases look particularly good - no component masters ever. And as for CPM's "remaster" - No, just no. Well, it took more than 20 years, but it finally got what it needed.

This release looks excellent. Massive improvements in detail, color, everything. Film grain has probably undergone some reduction, but it appears to have been done with a light touch - no signs of clumping and the grain is still quite visible. Other than more exorbitant than usual Kadokawa pricing, I have no complaints. The 195 page color book is nicer than what's usually included as well.

DVD screenshots are from the R2J DVD box from some years back (which I'll be keeping for the soundtrack CDs).

(DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1440x1080, BD screenshots cropped to 1440x1080)

01 R2JDVD | BD
02 R2JDVD | BD
03 R2JDVD | R2JDVD EP. 2 | BD
04 R2JDVD | R2JDVD EP. 2 | BD
05 R2JDVD | R2JDVD EP. 2 | BD
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[ApocalypseKnight]

Has anyone seen Gundam Thunderbolt in 1080P and 4K?
If so, is there a big difference?

[Naiera]

No.

[Naiera]

I had a friend look at his God Eater vol. 2, and it's as we figured: Made in the USA. The encode seems to be a typical US one with about 4.5GB per episode.

I don't think this has been covered anywhere in the anime subsection, so I figured I should chime in.

Definitely not spending AoA money on this one

[pikagreg]

Was God Eater vol 1 the same? Also I would hate to see that become the norm for Aniplex lol

[Naiera]

God Eater is special because it's not an Aniplex show. We knew a long time ago that this would likely happen. There's no real reason to fear that this will happen for other shows.

[Z-95]

I just pulled the episodes off my God Eater 2 set and they are about 6GB each. Some of the episodes are split between 2 m2ts files so they may look smaller.

For example:

General
Unique ID                      : 174611134582112250911365220568808411165 (0x835CE19B0282C406A14383819199D01D)
Complete name                  : M:\Anime\God Eater (2015)\11 - Operation Meteorite.mkv
Format                         : Matroska
Format version                 : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                      : 6.59 GiB
Duration                       : 23 min 57 s
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 39.4 Mb/s
Encoded date                   : UTC 2017-01-31 21:56:41
Writing application            : mkvmerge v9.8.0 ('Kuglblids') 64bit
Writing library                : libebml v1.3.4 + libmatroska v1.4.5

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames      : 4 frames
Codec ID                       : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                       : 23 min 57 s
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : 34.7 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate               : 40.0 Mb/s
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.698
Stream size                    : 5.81 GiB (88%)
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
CHECKSUM                       : 086cd23797f32f76f87ff0fb6030c25303f2c32b

Audio #1
ID                             : 2
Format                         : PCM
Codec ID                       : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                       : 23 min 57 s
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 2 304 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 30.001 FPS (1600 spf)
Bit depth                      : 24 bits
Stream size                    : 395 MiB (6%)
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No
CHECKSUM                       : b4025f9192bcf8e8a268e14ee8ea02e1effa6f23

Audio #2
ID                             : 3
Format                         : PCM
Codec ID                       : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                       : 23 min 57 s
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 2 304 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 30.001 FPS (1600 spf)
Bit depth                      : 24 bits
Stream size                    : 395 MiB (6%)
Language                       : Japanese
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No
CHECKSUM                       : 1cc68c479b63f163778a624d0afb73e2cf261d02

Text #1
ID                             : 4
Format                         : PGS
Muxing mode                    : zlib
Codec ID                       : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                  : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                       : 23 min 41 s
Bit rate                       : 8 223 b/s
Count of elements              : 153
Stream size                    : 1.39 MiB (0%)
Title                          : Signs and Songs
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No
CHECKSUM                       : a382c9e406a6893140d9465b449c709c0b73eb8a

Text #2
ID                             : 5
Format                         : PGS
Muxing mode                    : zlib
Codec ID                       : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                  : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                       : 23 min 41 s
Bit rate                       : 34.0 kb/s
Count of elements              : 952
Stream size                    : 5.76 MiB (0%)
Language                       : English
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No
CHECKSUM                       : 791831795545fc009bdd0e1df00a472df0a73d9f

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[Naiera]

I'll never trust my friend in DE with these stats again