The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 74 - Blu-ray Forum

Nostalgic Twilight · 11-20-2017, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E_I

Rightstuf has posted a page with their upscale work with ARIA.

http://www.nozomientertainment.com/a...eo-comparison/

Based off of those examples, that is much better than the Japanese BD.

professorwho · 11-20-2017, 02:57 PM

Even viewing on a phone, the difference is noticeable.

pikagreg · 11-20-2017, 03:02 PM

I am glad Nozomi is showing us these examples right away.

Naiera · 11-20-2017, 03:08 PM

They've added a truckload of false sharpness. The ringing is nuts.

BlaizeV · 11-20-2017, 04:09 PM

The Japanese looks better. Again the US notching up the brightness! Why do they always do that!?

pikagreg · 11-20-2017, 04:14 PM

You guys should post your feedback on the Kickstarter page if you have any comments. It is still early enough in the campaign where they can change things.

Nostalgic Twilight · 11-20-2017, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaizeV

The Japanese looks better. Again the US notching up the brightness! Why do they always do that!?

The US screenshots have lots more detail in the backgrounds, though. Even with the EE, I'd take it over the Japanese release. However, it would be wonderful if they dialed it down.

EDIT: Nozomi responded and said they're taking a look at the EE and ringing issue, and I saw pika brought up the brightness.

omarchafa · 11-21-2017, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E_I

Rightstuf has posted a page with their upscale work with ARIA.

http://www.nozomientertainment.com/a...eo-comparison/

No thanks, I'll just let the OPPO do the upscale on the original DVDs. Even better if I just watch the DVDs on my CRT.

nagpo · 11-21-2017, 05:04 AM

the difference seems negligible to me

Nostalgic Twilight · 11-21-2017, 05:21 AM

Sensuifu from Fandom Post posted his thoughts:

Quote:

I noticed the slight ringing/halos but the recovered details are definitely cleaner. Some sharpening/EE can be applied without noticeable artifacting, which I suggested earlier. Not sure what's with the negative comments thinking these preliminary shots are worse than the import. Despite the halo'ing (which can be further minimized or undone) it still looks superior to the ugliness that's the Japanese release. The characters have improved detail as well. The smudging is nearly nonexistent compared to the import, which looks like crap in general. I think Nozomi should sample some text, i.e. the title cards, etc. to really show the difference.

Not surprised Nozomi can one-up the JP releases (Sentai is another with their Patlabor releases) by not only releasing the entire franchise for the cost of one of the JP boxsets, they're including a lot of physical extras that the imports never got (aside from retailer-exclusives, which don't really count).. I'm laughing at and kicking myself for buying all the imports, seeing that the domestic release already trumps the originals (as far as the SD releases are concerned, not sure how Avvenire will look).

omarchafa · 11-21-2017, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagpo

the difference seems negligible to me

Man you guys should have seen what this fansub group did with their own upscale for Aria season 1, it looked like it was completely re-composite. Too bad the screenshots don't exist anymore and impossible to download the videos now.

NLScavenger · 11-21-2017, 06:56 PM

Galaxy Express 999 (1979) Nova Media Blu-ray: Screenshots (warning: imgbox pop ups will sometimes redirect to naughty websites)

Picture quality is all over the place.

Nova Media will be selling the two pack for $15 during their 50% off sale from Dec. 1 to 31.

BDInfo:

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     GALAXY_EXPRESS_999
Disc Size:      46.770.974.043 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 2:08:15.688 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   40.003.805.184 bytes
Total Bitrate:          41,59 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        32885 kbps          1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      Japanese        1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        1515 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1515 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             Korean          192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
LPCM Audio                      Korean          1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          17,920 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        45,587 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          1,087 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           English         29,057 kbps

BlaizeV · 11-22-2017, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omarchafa

Man you guys should have seen what this fansub group did with their own upscale for Aria season 1, it looked like it was completely re-composite. Too bad the screenshots don't exist anymore and impossible to download the videos now.

Maybe they used Warp Sharpening to do that?

I know that I originally thought the Lucky Star Blu Ray in Japan was HD Native and not an upscale because someone had used Warp Sharpening on the video and the difference can be massive but it's a controversial technique even if it can be at a quick glance incredibly effective.

omarchafa · 11-22-2017, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaizeV

Maybe they used Warp Sharpening to do that?

I know that I originally thought the Lucky Star Blu Ray in Japan was HD Native and not an upscale because someone had used Warp Sharpening on the video and the difference can be massive but it's a controversial technique even if it can be at a quick glance incredibly effective.

They probably did. On the close up shots, it look true HD all the way without any bad side effects. On the wider shots, it looked okay.

svenge · 11-24-2017, 03:35 AM

Here's some abbreviated BDInfo scans of the original Mach Go Go Go from the grossly-overpriced Funimation box set. The executive summary is that it's 1080p AVC video @ 18.5 mbps with 16-bit Dolby TrueHD stereo. Nothing special, but sufficient for an old 4:3 OAR show with minimal sound effects.

Code:

Disc Title: MACH GO GO GO D1
Disc Size: 49,851,137,438 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00827.MPLS
Size: 49,384,144,896 bytes
Length: 5:08:34.287
Total Bitrate: 21.34 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 18352 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 399 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 29.949 kbps

Disc Title: MACH GO GO GO D2
Disc Size: 49,796,083,104 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00827.MPLS
Size: 49,177,180,416 bytes
Length: 5:08:14.225
Total Bitrate: 21.27 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 18294 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 404 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 25.901 kbps

Disc Title: MACH GO GO GO D3
Disc Size: 49,768,926,151 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00827.MPLS
Size: 49,398,773,760 bytes
Length: 5:08:34.495
Total Bitrate: 21.34 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 18358 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 405 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 27.821 kbps
Subtitle: English / 2.056 kbps

Disc Title: MACH GO GO GO D4
Disc Size: 49,934,997,963 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00827.MPLS
Size: 49,391,597,568 bytes
Length: 5:08:34.495
Total Bitrate: 21.34 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 18355 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 402 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 30.000 kbps

Disc Title: MACH GO GO GO D5
Disc Size: 16,926,380,906 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00827.MPLS
Size: 16,317,155,328 bytes
Length: 1:41:58.111
Total Bitrate: 21.34 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 18350 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 400 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 24.936 kbps
Subtitle: English / 7.015 kbps

BlaizeV · 11-24-2017, 03:14 PM

Good to know Mach Go Go Go is a solid release. Now if Funimation could do us all a solid on the price that would also be most welcome.

Ccharmanderk · 11-24-2017, 05:12 PM

No kidding. Not a single soul I know wants that giant sculpted monstrosity anywhere near their home video collection, they need to make separate, more affordable series releases for Mach Go Go Go and the reboot.

omarchafa · 11-26-2017, 05:41 AM

Any BD disc info for Your Name, Funimation version?

NLScavenger · 11-26-2017, 10:09 AM

Found a Your Name Dynit vs JP comparison on Screenshotcomparison.com

From a Gamer.com.tw thread:

Quote:

JP BD:

[Show spoiler]

IT BD:

[Show spoiler]

TW BD:

[Show spoiler]

IT BD:

[Show spoiler]

From another Gamer.com.tw thread:

Quote:

TW BD:

[Show spoiler]

IT BD:

[Show spoiler]

Also found a BDInfo report:

Code:

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00004.MPLS
Length: 1:46:28.250 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 33.551.447.424 bytes
Total Bitrate: 42,02 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 33450 kbps 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 3130 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3130 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 3094 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3094 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics Italian 43,390 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 4,730 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 14,223 kbps

Quote:

Originally Posted by omarchafa

Any BD disc info for Your Name, Funimation version?

Code:

Disc Title: YOUR NAME BD
Disc Size: 48,585,847,162 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 35,150,708,736 bytes
Length: 1:46:38.750
Total Bitrate: 43.95 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 34648 kbps / 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2058 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Audio: Japanese / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2127 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Subtitle: English / 29.716 kbps
Subtitle: English / 1.902 kbps

EDIT: fixed url.

Yuripa · 11-26-2017, 12:11 PM

So again, Dynit edition is the best in the world in terms of pictures quality.
Damn, GG Mp3dom.

It's difficult to see from theses screenshots, but I don't see the green teint on the IT version.

11-20-2017, 02:57 PM	#1462
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Even viewing on a phone, the difference is noticeable.

11-20-2017, 03:02 PM	#1463
pikagreg Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2014 Location:Southern California Trading Score:13	I am glad Nozomi is showing us these examples right away.

11-20-2017, 03:08 PM	#1464
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:25	They've added a truckload of false sharpness. The ringing is nuts.

11-20-2017, 04:09 PM	#1465
BlaizeV Active Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2017 Location:Adrift in Blighty 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:1688 DVD collection:965 Trading Score:3	The Japanese looks better. Again the US notching up the brightness! Why do they always do that!?

11-20-2017, 04:14 PM	#1466
pikagreg Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2014 Location:Southern California Trading Score:13	You guys should post your feedback on the Kickstarter page if you have any comments. It is still early enough in the campaign where they can change things.

11-21-2017, 05:04 AM	#1469
nagpo Special Member Member since:Jun 2017	the difference seems negligible to me

11-24-2017, 03:14 PM	#1476
BlaizeV Active Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2017 Location:Adrift in Blighty 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:1688 DVD collection:965 Trading Score:3	Good to know Mach Go Go Go is a solid release. Now if Funimation could do us all a solid on the price that would also be most welcome.

11-24-2017, 05:12 PM	#1477
Ccharmanderk Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2015	No kidding. Not a single soul I know wants that giant sculpted monstrosity anywhere near their home video collection, they need to make separate, more affordable series releases for Mach Go Go Go and the reboot.

11-26-2017, 05:41 AM	#1478
omarchafa Special Member Member since:Feb 2014	Any BD disc info for Your Name, Funimation version?

11-26-2017, 12:11 PM	#1480
Yuripa Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2016 Location:EU (Belgium) Blu-ray collection:229 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:2	So again, Dynit edition is the best in the world in terms of pictures quality. Damn, GG Mp3dom. It's difficult to see from theses screenshots, but I don't see the green teint on the IT version.

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