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Bluyoda · 11-08-2014, 10:14 AM

It's been over 8 years, since BD was officially released, yet we still have some many great titles unreleased, and many others have inexcusably bad releases in the ways of DNR monsters, lossy audio tracks, ancient dinosaur transfers, EE twisters,.....

I have been waiting and waiting, and waiting for many films to come out on Blu-ray, yet there is no sign of that ever happening.

Admittedly, many titles I was hoping for have seen a release, but it took ages.

Lemony Snicket's: A Series of Unfortunate Events, Zoolander, etc..

Many other titles are available in the UK, Germany, etc., but not here.
It's a mess, and you need to invest lots of time to do the necessary research.

Some titles only have the English dub in lossless audio-->Hero, others have the wrong subtitles-->Princess Mononoke, etc. The list is quite long.

Yet, they are pushing for 4K!!!!

What a joke!

How about they release the movies we want in good quality, in you know, 1080p picture and HD=lossless audio?

Death Becomes Her, The Abyss and True Lies haven't even been released yet.

Are we honestly expected to watch these movies on DVD? Or should we stream everything?

I, for one, want my movies on BD, and in the best possible quality.

Instead, we get ten thousand re-releases of already available titles, which wouldn't bother me, if great new titles were being released at the same time, but I don't feel that way.

Are you as frustrated as I am?

I even want Shopgirl on BD, because I like it, and it's quite new, so I don't understand why it's not on BD yet.
Or Fun with Dick and Jane with Jim Carrey and Tea L.!
Where are all these movies?????

Rant out. Peace in.

Mansinthe · 11-08-2014, 10:20 AM

well for a lot of "us" its normal to import movies from other countrys... and you even have it better if you import movies from the UK since you get the VAT removed + dont have to bother with a custom free limit.

yes you have to research first before you buy a release to make sure its the "best" one out there. but that has a good side as well. if every release would be the same it would suck if a movie get messed up.
the way it currently is you are still able to import a superiror version (or the version that is in your opinion superiror, people think different about that.. dubs, dnr , grain etc)

these days it really simple to research and import movies from all over the world. while 10 years ago it would have been kinda hard for most people to get a movie.. lets say from Korea

i wouldnt call bluray a failure. i think it will stick with us for a few more years at least and will be plenty for most consumers as well. most people dont care for hd audio etc.. since they only use their TV speakers , sound bars or 500$ logitech sets anyway.

Bluyoda · 11-08-2014, 10:40 AM

How is an English dub the original language track?
Hero is in Mandarin. That track should be in lossless audio.
It's been re-released several times, but always the same disc, with the lossy Mandarin track, and the wrong English subtitles.

You have some points though.

Wernski · 11-08-2014, 10:51 AM

Yeah, I think they're nuts going for 4K discs with blu-rays still lagging behind DVDs. It's like fewer movies are getting released on each new format. Soon we'll have 20k discs and the only movies available will be Ghostbusters and Avengers 7.

Batmon77 · 11-08-2014, 11:02 AM

here we go....

KenHurd · 11-08-2014, 11:03 AM

I wouldn't call blu-ray a failure; I think that in a lot of ways it is a success, but it's more of a niche product than DVD was. We've had plenty of big releases on BD, and I wouldn't judge its success by the big titles still missing. Even big titles like Star Wars took almost 8 years into DVD's life before it became available, whereas they were available just 4 years into Blu-ray's life. DVD became an instant success because there wasn't really any competition for it, unlike Blu-ray which had to compete with HD-DVD. Divx had too many issues, and wasn't nearly as popular as HD-DVD. If there was a format war between those two, I believe it was pretty short lived, whereas with BD vs HD-DVD, you had two formats really competing against each other, and that prevented a number of titles from being released until the format was was over. It also prevented many consumers from choosing a side until it was over.

Another thing to consider are the consumers. To upgrade to DVD, all someone really had to do was buy a DVD player, but to upgrade to HD and Blu-ray, consumers had to buy an HD TV, BD player, etc. Also, HD TVs were ridiculously expensive when they were first released, and there were indications that the TVs wouldn't last long. I worked in an electronics store when Plasma TVs first came out, and they cost around 10,000 and only had a lifespan of 5 years. Plus, there wasn't very many HD options to watch at the time. It took quite a few years after that before stations started to broadcast in HD. I think it was closer to the late 2000s before it was more mainstream.

Also, I don't think people collected VHS as much as they did DVD, but I could be wrong. By the time I started buying VHS titles, it wasn't long before DVD came out. So my VHS collection was very small. Most people have bought their movies on DVD and don't want to keep re-buying titles they've already bought. We, on this forum, are probably a rather small percentage of the general audience. And another thing about blu-ray is that the players don't require you to re-buy a movie because they will play your DVDs, whereas when you bought a DVD player, you couldn't play your VHS tapes without a VCR. So that forced people to make the jump to DVD.

As 4K comes out, I think that what we will eventually see is the formats combining. BD players play DVDs, and I think that 4K players will play Blu-rays and DVDs so that it reaches every audience. The 4K market will be much slower for general consumers to adopt, which will make it even more niche than BD. But I think we will eventually see 4K combo titles that include the BD and the DVD. We will probably still have individual DVD releases for the consumer that doesn't want to pay more, but I could see there not being individual BD copies, but instead the BD will be packaged with the 4K copy.

Petra_Kalbrain · 11-08-2014, 11:03 AM

Sensationalist thread title much??? F.U.D. is not welcome on these forums.

Your post has some valid points though. Too bad your thread title is such a huge "drama queen seeking attention" ploy.

Perhaps this thread should be merged with the "OH NO! THE SKY IS FALLING" thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batmon77

here we go....

You forgot a word... "again."

Bluyoda · 11-08-2014, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenHurd

[Show spoiler]I wouldn't call blu-ray a failure; I think that in a lot of ways it is a success, but it's more of a niche product than DVD was. We've had plenty of big releases on BD, and I wouldn't judge its success by the big titles still missing. Even big titles like Star Wars took almost 8 years into DVD's life before it became available, whereas they were available just 4 years into Blu-ray's life. DVD became an instant success because there wasn't really any competition for it, unlike Blu-ray which had to compete with HD-DVD. Divx had too many issues, and wasn't nearly as popular as HD-DVD. If there was a format war between those two, I believe it was pretty short lived, whereas with BD vs HD-DVD, you had two formats really competing against each other, and that prevented a number of titles from being released until the format was was over. It also prevented many consumers from choosing a side until it was over.

Another thing to consider are the consumers. To upgrade to DVD, all someone really had to do was buy a DVD player, but to upgrade to HD and Blu-ray, consumers had to buy an HD TV, BD player, etc. Also, HD TVs were ridiculously expensive when they were first released, and there were indications that the TVs wouldn't last long. I worked in an electronics store when Plasma TVs first came out, and they cost around 10,000 and only had a lifespan of 5 years. Plus, there wasn't very many HD options to watch at the time. It took quite a few years after that before stations started to broadcast in HD. I think it was closer to the late 2000s before it was more mainstream.

Also, I don't think people collected VHS as much as they did DVD, but I could be wrong. By the time I started buying VHS titles, it wasn't long before DVD came out. So my VHS collection was very small. Most people have bought their movies on DVD and don't want to keep re-buying titles they've already bought. We, on this forum, are probably a rather small percentage of the general audience. And another thing about blu-ray is that the players don't require you to re-buy a movie because they will play your DVDs, whereas when you bought a DVD player, you couldn't play your VHS tapes without a VCR. So that forced people to make the jump to DVD.

As 4K comes out, I think that what we will eventually see is the formats combining. BD players play DVDs, and I think that 4K players will play Blu-rays and DVDs so that it reaches every audience. The 4K market will be much slower for general consumers to adopt, which will make it even more niche than BD. But I think we will eventually see 4K combo titles that include the BD and the DVD. We will probably still have individual DVD releases for the consumer that doesn't want to pay more, but I could see there not being individual BD copies, but instead the BD will be packaged with the 4K copy.

Good post.

I agree with pretty much everything you state.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Sensationalist thread title much??? F.U.D. is not welcome on these forums.

Your post has some valid points though. Too bad your thread title is such a huge "drama queen seeking attention" ploy.

Perhaps this thread should be merged with the "OH NO! THE SKY IS FALLING" thread?

You forgot a word... "again."

Well, it DOES have a question mark.

ZeTi · 11-08-2014, 11:26 AM

In my opinion BDs do work best for small/niche labels. Most of my friends who frequently watch movies "still" haven't made the jump to blu-ray. DVDs still take most of the space in our local shops.

Criterion sells more BDs than DVDs ... Camera Obscura recently jumped the bandwagon and now wants to re-release at least one of their older title on BD. Code Red also does pretty well with the BD for what i can gather, an so does Grindhouse, Redemption and RaRO.

HD Goofnut · 11-08-2014, 12:00 PM

Is BD a failure? No.

Nostromo · 11-08-2014, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Sensationalist thread title much??? F.U.D. is not welcome on these forums.

Your post has some valid points though. Too bad your thread title is such a huge "drama queen seeking attention" ploy.

Perhaps this thread should be merged with the "OH NO! THE SKY IS FALLING" thread?

You forgot a word... "again."

I don't find the title sensationalist at all. I think the OP was just expressing an opinion. With all due respect, I find your reply more sensationalist than the OP's original post.

That said, I don't think BR is a failure...though it probably never will be as popular as DVD. From the perspective of the companies releasing BR discs, it may or may not ultimately turn out to be a failure - after all, they're in the business to make money. BR may ultimately co-exist with downloading, etc...or it may fall by the wayside. Technology is always changing...and no-one really knows for sure what will survive five, ten, fifteen years down the line, and what won't.

Regardless, I love BR and will continue to collect movies as long as the studios release them.

Race Bannon · 11-08-2014, 12:05 PM

If you go to an electronics display, almost every available player is blu-ray.

Every new release comes out on blu-ray.

They're working their way through most old titles that have any chance of selling.

It's fine. In hindsight, it really hurt adoption when blu-ray and HD DVD both launched -- it made it seem like a risky gimmick to some people, and kept it from being just "this is the current type of DVD."

In the future, they should really try not to make anything seem like a new format -- just a higher quality blu-ray release. Like call it 4K blu-ray and have it play fine on a regular blu-ray player (just not as good as a 4K player).

The other thing is that appetite for sales kept them from keeping the rental market viable -- Red Box has moved into a vacuum there and many people still like to rent a physical medium for movies. There are a lot of people without high quality internet streaming or cable.

If you keep the rental market viable, the physical format will continue to be relevant.

Bumblefeet · 11-08-2014, 12:05 PM

Speaking for myself, no. The majority of dvds I own(ed) either have or have been getting blu-ray counterparts of recent, so if you're basing it on availability I'd say it's not a failure. It's normal for older catalogue titles to take a while before getting released, as it was in the days when DVDs got released.

The majority of blu-rays also offer a significant enough upgrade in picture quality to warrant a release in the first place.

Where blu-ray to me failed, is with the false start it took with the blu-ray VS HD-DVD war, the expensive prices for blu-ray readers/writers and blank media, as well as HD ready (720p) instead of (1080p) equipment.

These factors definitely made people hold off from the format until that was sorted out, and the unnecessary addition of combo dvd/digital copies. When DVDs got released, they didn't have a VHS copy included for those who did not get a player yet.

Also, what bugs me a lot is a blu-ray release that doesn't include extras from the dvd. You have the additional space, use it. There's nothing more sorry than a blu-ray that doesn't use its full potential (transfer and content-wise).

Race Bannon · 11-08-2014, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumblefeet

These factors definitely made people hold off from the format until that was sorted out, and the unnecessary addition of combo dvd/digital copies. When DVDs got released, they

This actually speeded adoption in my case -- I'm in a family of 5, where there were old DVD players around the house in various bedrooms, and DVD players in the mini-van. The combos made our family pull the trigger big time, because we thought "The blu-ray can be for our home theater movie nights, and people can watch the DVD in the car or in their bedroom."

Over time, all the DVD players (accept the car) got swapped out, and the combo became less relevant. (Now the relevant combo is whether we get a digital copy for the Ultraviolet locker, which now has family sharing).

tylerdurden10 · 11-08-2014, 12:23 PM

If I may chime in, I'd tend to disagree with the OP here. The majority of major titles have already seen a release, not to mention some extremely niche genre titles that I never thought would see the light of day on blu-ray. Of course everyone will have their own personal favorite titles that they are anxiously awaiting, but for the most part the titles that will sell have been released.

......Now having said that, where are all of my cheesy 80's movies favorites!

Bumblefeet · 11-08-2014, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Race Bannon

This actually speeded adoption in my case -- I'm in a family of 5, where there were old DVD players around the house in various bedrooms, and DVD players in the mini-van. The combos made our family pull the trigger big time, because we thought "The blu-ray can be for our home theater movie nights, and people can watch the DVD in the car or in their bedroom."

Over time, all the DVD players (accept the car) got swapped out, and the combo became less relevant. (Now the relevant combo is whether we get a digital copy for the Ultraviolet locker, which now has family sharing).

OK, that's a good argument, but in my case I have no use for the extra disc and as such always feel I'm paying extra for something I wont use anyway.

Doctor Jack · 11-08-2014, 12:51 PM

No it's not a failure. At all. The reason Shopgirl isn't available is because it's a shit movie that won't sell. True Lies and The Abyss are waiting for Cameron, who is a little busy. Just because every title isn't available doesn't mean it's a failure.

dobyblue · 11-08-2014, 12:58 PM

Not a failure but I find it peculiar I can buy "Gregory's Girl" on Blu-ray but still can't get Tony Scott's "The Fan" or Danny Boyle's "The Beach".

Would love to pick up Steve Martin in "LA Story" as well.

Todd Tomorrow · 11-08-2014, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Not a failure but I find it peculiar I can buy "Gregory's Girl" on Blu-ray but still can't get Tony Scott's "The Fan" or Danny Boyle's "The Beach".

One classic of British cinema out on Blu and two critically reviled bombs are not. I can't really see a problem there.

pi2loc · 11-08-2014, 01:06 PM

So, you consider blu-ray a failure just because you're not able to find some movies on blu-ray yet? I don't get it.

I love the format and the home experience that it provides, really. While there are many titles I would love to see on BD, I can wait and if it never happens is probably because the studio thought it was not necessary, which wouldn't mean that the blu-ray itself as a format "failed".

4K and 8K formats are cool and I will probably be collecting those when they're available for the right price. That said, I'm happy with the full HD 1080p experience and will continue to do so.

11-08-2014, 10:14 AM	#7101
Bluyoda Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dagobah Home Theater Gallery:103 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:1383 Blu-ray reviews: 263 Trading Score:4	Blu-ray: A Failure? It's been over 8 years, since BD was officially released, yet we still have some many great titles unreleased, and many others have inexcusably bad releases in the ways of DNR monsters, lossy audio tracks, ancient dinosaur transfers, EE twisters,..... I have been waiting and waiting, and waiting for many films to come out on Blu-ray, yet there is no sign of that ever happening. Admittedly, many titles I was hoping for have seen a release, but it took ages. Lemony Snicket's: A Series of Unfortunate Events, Zoolander, etc.. Many other titles are available in the UK, Germany, etc., but not here. It's a mess, and you need to invest lots of time to do the necessary research. Some titles only have the English dub in lossless audio-->Hero, others have the wrong subtitles-->Princess Mononoke, etc. The list is quite long. Yet, they are pushing for 4K!!!! What a joke! How about they release the movies we want in good quality, in you know, 1080p picture and HD=lossless audio? Death Becomes Her, The Abyss and True Lies haven't even been released yet. Are we honestly expected to watch these movies on DVD? Or should we stream everything? I, for one, want my movies on BD, and in the best possible quality. Instead, we get ten thousand re-releases of already available titles, which wouldn't bother me, if great new titles were being released at the same time, but I don't feel that way. Are you as frustrated as I am? I even want Shopgirl on BD, because I like it, and it's quite new, so I don't understand why it's not on BD yet. Or Fun with Dick and Jane with Jim Carrey and Tea L.! Where are all these movies????? Rant out. Peace in. Last edited by Bluyoda; 11-08-2014 at 10:44 AM.

11-08-2014, 10:20 AM	#7102
Mansinthe Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2013 Location:Germany Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:1197 DVD collection:43 Blu-ray reviews: 37 Trading Score:14	well for a lot of "us" its normal to import movies from other countrys... and you even have it better if you import movies from the UK since you get the VAT removed + dont have to bother with a custom free limit. yes you have to research first before you buy a release to make sure its the "best" one out there. but that has a good side as well. if every release would be the same it would suck if a movie get messed up. the way it currently is you are still able to import a superiror version (or the version that is in your opinion superiror, people think different about that.. dubs, dnr , grain etc) these days it really simple to research and import movies from all over the world. while 10 years ago it would have been kinda hard for most people to get a movie.. lets say from Korea i wouldnt call bluray a failure. i think it will stick with us for a few more years at least and will be plenty for most consumers as well. most people dont care for hd audio etc.. since they only use their TV speakers , sound bars or 500$ logitech sets anyway. Last edited by Mansinthe; 11-08-2014 at 10:36 AM.

11-08-2014, 12:05 PM	#7113
Bumblefeet Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2013 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:827	Speaking for myself, no. The majority of dvds I own(ed) either have or have been getting blu-ray counterparts of recent, so if you're basing it on availability I'd say it's not a failure. It's normal for older catalogue titles to take a while before getting released, as it was in the days when DVDs got released. The majority of blu-rays also offer a significant enough upgrade in picture quality to warrant a release in the first place. Where blu-ray to me failed, is with the false start it took with the blu-ray VS HD-DVD war, the expensive prices for blu-ray readers/writers and blank media, as well as HD ready (720p) instead of (1080p) equipment. These factors definitely made people hold off from the format until that was sorted out, and the unnecessary addition of combo dvd/digital copies. When DVDs got released, they didn't have a VHS copy included for those who did not get a player yet. Also, what bugs me a lot is a blu-ray release that doesn't include extras from the dvd. You have the additional space, use it. There's nothing more sorry than a blu-ray that doesn't use its full potential (transfer and content-wise). Last edited by Bumblefeet; 11-08-2014 at 12:19 PM.

11-08-2014, 10:40 AM	#7103
Bluyoda Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dagobah Home Theater Gallery:103 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:1383 Blu-ray reviews: 263 Trading Score:4	How is an English dub the original language track? Hero is in Mandarin. That track should be in lossless audio. It's been re-released several times, but always the same disc, with the lossy Mandarin track, and the wrong English subtitles. You have some points though.

11-08-2014, 10:51 AM	#7104
Wernski Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:NJ, USA 4K collection:170 Blu-ray collection:1173 DVD collection:878 Trading Score:1	Yeah, I think they're nuts going for 4K discs with blu-rays still lagging behind DVDs. It's like fewer movies are getting released on each new format. Soon we'll have 20k discs and the only movies available will be Ghostbusters and Avengers 7.

11-08-2014, 11:02 AM	#7105
Batmon77 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2011 Location:New York City 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:428 DVD collection:1	here we go....

11-08-2014, 11:03 AM	#7106
KenHurd Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2008 4K collection:711 Blu-ray collection:2660 DVD collection:435 MA collection:1359 Digital collection:2253 iTunes collection:813 Prime collection:88 Trading Score:7	I wouldn't call blu-ray a failure; I think that in a lot of ways it is a success, but it's more of a niche product than DVD was. We've had plenty of big releases on BD, and I wouldn't judge its success by the big titles still missing. Even big titles like Star Wars took almost 8 years into DVD's life before it became available, whereas they were available just 4 years into Blu-ray's life. DVD became an instant success because there wasn't really any competition for it, unlike Blu-ray which had to compete with HD-DVD. Divx had too many issues, and wasn't nearly as popular as HD-DVD. If there was a format war between those two, I believe it was pretty short lived, whereas with BD vs HD-DVD, you had two formats really competing against each other, and that prevented a number of titles from being released until the format was was over. It also prevented many consumers from choosing a side until it was over. Another thing to consider are the consumers. To upgrade to DVD, all someone really had to do was buy a DVD player, but to upgrade to HD and Blu-ray, consumers had to buy an HD TV, BD player, etc. Also, HD TVs were ridiculously expensive when they were first released, and there were indications that the TVs wouldn't last long. I worked in an electronics store when Plasma TVs first came out, and they cost around 10,000 and only had a lifespan of 5 years. Plus, there wasn't very many HD options to watch at the time. It took quite a few years after that before stations started to broadcast in HD. I think it was closer to the late 2000s before it was more mainstream. Also, I don't think people collected VHS as much as they did DVD, but I could be wrong. By the time I started buying VHS titles, it wasn't long before DVD came out. So my VHS collection was very small. Most people have bought their movies on DVD and don't want to keep re-buying titles they've already bought. We, on this forum, are probably a rather small percentage of the general audience. And another thing about blu-ray is that the players don't require you to re-buy a movie because they will play your DVDs, whereas when you bought a DVD player, you couldn't play your VHS tapes without a VCR. So that forced people to make the jump to DVD. As 4K comes out, I think that what we will eventually see is the formats combining. BD players play DVDs, and I think that 4K players will play Blu-rays and DVDs so that it reaches every audience. The 4K market will be much slower for general consumers to adopt, which will make it even more niche than BD. But I think we will eventually see 4K combo titles that include the BD and the DVD. We will probably still have individual DVD releases for the consumer that doesn't want to pay more, but I could see there not being individual BD copies, but instead the BD will be packaged with the 4K copy.

11-08-2014, 11:26 AM	#7109
ZeTi Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Austria 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:770 Trading Score:15	In my opinion BDs do work best for small/niche labels. Most of my friends who frequently watch movies "still" haven't made the jump to blu-ray. DVDs still take most of the space in our local shops. Criterion sells more BDs than DVDs ... Camera Obscura recently jumped the bandwagon and now wants to re-release at least one of their older title on BD. Code Red also does pretty well with the BD for what i can gather, an so does Grindhouse, Redemption and RaRO.

11-08-2014, 12:00 PM	#7110
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Is BD a failure? No.

11-08-2014, 12:05 PM	#7112
Race Bannon Special Member Member since:Mar 2013 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:1051 DVD collection:242 Digital collection:1	If you go to an electronics display, almost every available player is blu-ray. Every new release comes out on blu-ray. They're working their way through most old titles that have any chance of selling. It's fine. In hindsight, it really hurt adoption when blu-ray and HD DVD both launched -- it made it seem like a risky gimmick to some people, and kept it from being just "this is the current type of DVD." In the future, they should really try not to make anything seem like a new format -- just a higher quality blu-ray release. Like call it 4K blu-ray and have it play fine on a regular blu-ray player (just not as good as a 4K player). The other thing is that appetite for sales kept them from keeping the rental market viable -- Red Box has moved into a vacuum there and many people still like to rent a physical medium for movies. There are a lot of people without high quality internet streaming or cable. If you keep the rental market viable, the physical format will continue to be relevant.

11-08-2014, 12:23 PM	#7115
tylerdurden10 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:MA 4K collection:288 Blu-ray collection:2143 Trading Score:258	If I may chime in, I'd tend to disagree with the OP here. The majority of major titles have already seen a release, not to mention some extremely niche genre titles that I never thought would see the light of day on blu-ray. Of course everyone will have their own personal favorite titles that they are anxiously awaiting, but for the most part the titles that will sell have been released. ......Now having said that, where are all of my cheesy 80's movies favorites!

11-08-2014, 12:51 PM	#7117
Doctor Jack Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2013 Trading Score:230	No it's not a failure. At all. The reason Shopgirl isn't available is because it's a shit movie that won't sell. True Lies and The Abyss are waiting for Cameron, who is a little busy. Just because every title isn't available doesn't mean it's a failure.

11-08-2014, 12:58 PM	#7118
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Not a failure but I find it peculiar I can buy "Gregory's Girl" on Blu-ray but still can't get Tony Scott's "The Fan" or Danny Boyle's "The Beach". Would love to pick up Steve Martin in "LA Story" as well.

11-08-2014, 01:06 PM	#7120
pi2loc Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Saco, ME 4K collection:579 Blu-ray collection:2188 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:459	So, you consider blu-ray a failure just because you're not able to find some movies on blu-ray yet? I don't get it. I love the format and the home experience that it provides, really. While there are many titles I would love to see on BD, I can wait and if it never happens is probably because the studio thought it was not necessary, which wouldn't mean that the blu-ray itself as a format "failed". 4K and 8K formats are cool and I will probably be collecting those when they're available for the right price. That said, I'm happy with the full HD 1080p experience and will continue to do so.

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