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Old 04-19-2011, 06:36 PM   #3041
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I doubt if you told anyone there dvds wouldn't last 20 years from now they would be to concerned lol

Thats a big selling point i use though especially for those with kids, but don't fool yourself blu-rays get scratched too (ive rented some doozys), and anyone who has that as a serious problem with dvd will also have it with blu-ray.

I just think their should be a better balance between msrp and profit, just not enough the studios don't see releasing old catalog titles as worth it. The fact that blu-rays can and do sell for those prices is great for me, as i know i will get the titles i want at the pricing i want.

Also even though streaming is discounted on this forum as much as dvd, i do understand the need to hold on to some kind of influx as you put it. There is a huge shift in how we receive our media, its almost on overload all the options available, and whether they are for you or not, they leave hollywood struggling and in essence actually competing with themselves.

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Old 04-19-2011, 06:48 PM   #3042
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I doubt if you told anyone there dvds wouldn't last 20 years from now they would be to concerned lol

Thats a big selling point i use though especially for those with kids, but don't fool yourself blu-rays get scratched too (ive rented some doozys), and anyone who has that as a serious problem with dvd will also have it with blu-ray.

I just think their should be a better balance between msrp and profit, just not enough the studios don't see releasing old catalog titles as worth it. The fact that blu-rays can and do sell for those prices is great for me, as i know i will get the titles i want at the pricing i want.
It would all depend on how much money they have spent on their dvd's, cause some most certainly would care, especially considering some are tight a**es in the 1st place, which is why they bought the dvd over the blu-ray, just so they could save $3, they would be the 1st to whinge if quite a lot of their dvd collection stopped working in 20 years due to wear and tear.

Yes blu-rays can get scratched, but it is very hard to scratch them and any person who has respect for their things most likely will never scratch 1 of them ever. I've seen hired blu discs that have had quite a few scratches on them too, but in all honesty, any person who hires blu-rays and manages to scratch them up like some I've seen are just animals imo, u would find that they treat everything they own in the same way, and a lot of them wouldn't even know whats it's like to own nice things.

At the end of the day, blu-rays will last most people much longer than any dvd.

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Old 04-19-2011, 08:37 PM   #3043
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So BD players will outsell DVD players this year(per the author), but they aren't mainstream? The Tron BD just took 68% of sales and Tangled did over 40% and the format is failing???

I say our journalism schools are.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:05 PM   #3044
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So BD players will outsell DVD players this year(per the author), but they aren't mainstream? The Tron BD just took 68% of sales and Tangled did over 40% and the format is failing???

I say our journalism schools are.
not to mention thats people replacing there last bottom end $30 dvd player with another $30 bottom end dvd player, which at least in my experience do not have a long life expectancy at all. Get what you pay for, and in this case helps inflate dvd player sales, as if they had not already hit there saturation point.
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:04 AM   #3045
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So BD players will outsell DVD players this year(per the author), but they aren't mainstream? The Tron BD just took 68% of sales and Tangled did over 40% and the format is failing???

I say our journalism schools are.
did not read the article, but agree. Did this journalist check when DVD took hold by his definition what ever it is?
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:40 AM   #3046
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did not read the article, but agree. Did this journalist check when DVD took hold by his definition what ever it is?
You didn't miss much, just a summary of the whining going on in the hdd smackdown forum the last three years. Wonder what this guys screen name is over there.
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:49 AM   #3047
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The reason blu ray has not caught on just yet is mostly price of the movies. I was in target today and there were many pretty recent releases on dvd for sale for like $5 and complete seasons of tv shows such as house or bones on dvd for $15-20. Even renting a movie at my local family video. It is something like $2.50 for dvd and 3.75 to rend new release blu ray for one night.

Now when you look up that stuff on amazon or go into best buy you are going to be paying $40-60 for the blu ray version of those same shows.

Even knowing how much better blu ray is, it is hard to justify spending 3-4x as much for the same thing in a better video format. Also almost every studio does the "special features" on the discs in normal dvd format. So all you are getting is the main feature in blu ray not anything else.


Then there are people like my parents, who refuse to buy anything new until what they currently have breaks and claim there 32inch CRT TV looks just as good as my HDTV
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:35 AM   #3048
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I think this guy is off of his rocker.... Blu-ray is starting to catch on and will outsell DVD within the next 2 years.

Also, did this guy forget that we have a world-wide recession?


Why Has Blu-ray Failed to Catch Hold?

By John R. Quain
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My VCR is stashed in a closet, right next to a couple of CD-ROM players, a laser disc player, and other forgotten electronics. Is my Blu-ray player about to join them?

Strategy Analytics researcher Peter King recently said his analysts were surprised that DVD player sales continued to be so strong against Blu-ray players. That reminded me of what some critics have suspected: Blu-ray really hasn't caught on -- and probably never will.

"I'm surprised DVDs have continued to hang on," said King, referring to the fact that player sales of over 20 million units in the U.S. last year were pretty much evenly split between DVD and Blu-ray models. His figures show that Blu-ray player sales will surpass DVD sales by the end of this year ... but only slightly.

Blu-ray discs and players are clearly superior to DVDs, offering more features and a better picture overall. Blu-ray players connected to the Web can offer games, extra movie features, and additional bonus materials online that DVD players generally can't. And the latest Blu-ray players can handle 3D discs, something no DVD player can do.

So why haven't shoppers been impressed? It can't be the price. Walmart sells Blu-ray players for as little as $70.

Researchers suggest the reason Blu-ray has struggled is the old war with competing format HD DVD (a war Blu-ray eventually won). But more important, they say, is that consumers have just failed to understand the benefits of Blu-ray. King told me consumers don't realize that DVDs can be played on Blu-ray machines and erroneously believe they'll have to replace their entire DVD collection if they get a Blu-ray player.

Blu-ray won the format war over 3 years ago, giving it plenty of time to build momentum. And most consumers aren't worried about replacing discs; they worry that if they get a Blu-ray player and start buying expensive Blu-ray versions of new movies, the discs won't play in their friends' DVD players or in the backseat of the car. They're right. (As if to prove it, many titles are now offered in Blu-ray and DVD combo packs.)

The real reason Blu-ray players never went mainstream? Quite frankly they were never that good.

There wasn't enough of a qualitative difference between the picture offered by an upconverted DVD and that of a Blu-ray disc. Sure, analysts and reviewers can tell the difference (most of the time), but it isn't a significant enough difference to make viewers sit up and take notice. It wasn't like the jump from VCRs to DVD players or from giant tube TVs to flat screens.

And now it may be too late for Blu-ray.

Recent research by analysts at NPD has shown that 77 percent of viewers still watch movies on disc, meaning there's hope for Blu-ray. On the other hand, after years of Hollywood studios fighting the trend, the future is clear: Movies and video are moving to online streaming services. No more video stores. No more discs and late fees.

Simply rent or buy the movie online and get it via Netflix, Amazon or Vudu. It won't be as sharp a picture as that offered by a Blu-ray disc, but you don't have to get off the couch. Indeed, it's such a significant trend that the makers of Blu-ray players were forced to add the very streaming services they compete against to their own players.

Of course, few technologies disappear overnight, and Blu-ray is no exception. And it's likely that as DVD devices gradually wear out, Blu-ray players will become the majority as consumers replace older models.

Or maybe we'll all just skip the Blu-ray upgrade and move straight to streaming rentals. If that's the case, my Blu-ray player could land in the closet before the end of the year.

Follow John R. Quain on Twitter @jqontech or find more tech coverage at J-Q.com.


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Old 04-20-2011, 03:43 AM   #3049
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Most people are still content with dvd and there is no way blu-ray will ever be as popular as the dvd format. Keeping mind, the jump in quality from vhs to dvd is far and away higher than the jump from dvd to blu-ray.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:49 AM   #3050
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another day, another worthless "blu-ray/3d/whatever is doomed" editorial by clueless tech bloggers
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:53 AM   #3051
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I think a huge factor is HDTV's and how most people still haven't converted because they don't have the money or are waiting till their current TV set dies. Blu-rays cost more and don't have the huge catalogue DVD does meaning people still have to resort to DVD for some of their favourites! Plus people don't know the benefits of Blu-ray, working at Blockbuster I still have plenty of customers that don't know what Blu-ray is or that it's compatable with DVD. (I also had a guy rent a DVD instead of a Blu-ray because he said "it took too long to load" I stared at him for a couple seconds dumbfounded! )
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:53 AM   #3052
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Most people are still content with dvd and there is no way blu-ray will ever be as popular as the dvd format. Keeping mind, the jump in quality from vhs to dvd is far and away higher than the jump from dvd to blu-ray.
Hmm. Many stores keep expanding the Blu-ray section. It certainly looks like they're gradually starting to replace DVDs. Of course, it's taking a little longer, but that's not surprising. But I expect DVDs to be obsolete pretty soon. Heck, I can't even sell my DVDs anymore on Ebay because nobody bids on them now. Looks like a lot of people today want Blu-ray now.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:56 AM   #3053
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What? Blu-ray caught on long ago ... the sooner the studios but DVD down the better.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:58 AM   #3054
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Because 3D is now the format to top.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:02 AM   #3055
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It's an article from FoxNews...
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:12 AM   #3056
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Streaming is still years away from being viable for many people. Quality and internet connections aren't good enough. Add the fact that people still want a physical medium. And now blu-ray is finally being pushed by studios more than dvd. What's blu-ray market share? 25%? What was last year? 12%? It seems like it is catching on. The thing is blu-ray doesn't have to catch DVD to be viable, eventhough it probably eventually does. It is a great medium for cinephiles. If others don't care about quality...fine, but I'll enjoy my blu-rays.

Really I don't get that article it just seems like something to write and it is a couple years late. Was it suppose to be in relation to rentals? Well, what about people that want to own films? Won't stop me from buying and enjoying blu-rays.

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Old 04-20-2011, 04:32 AM   #3057
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I'm the only person I know who buys blurays. Everyone i know uses Netflix streaming. The only reason i buy blurays is because i have a ten foot projection system. It makes no difference on any of my TVs. Also the menu structure of many popular blurays is a veritable quicksand of legal warnings, logos and advertisements. If bluray sales overtake DVD, it's because DVD sales are declining.

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Old 04-20-2011, 04:33 AM   #3058
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I am not sure which makes me more irritated the article or the comments filled with people spelling blu-ray, blue-ray. They just read the article which is littered with the correct spelling.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:36 AM   #3059
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It's an article from FoxNews...
Dude, you beat me to the punch. BTW, did anyone catch that Weekly World News story about how they plan to replace all physical media with ear worms that project films onto the inside of our eye lids?
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:45 AM   #3060
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It hasn't we are just comparing it to DVD the most successful format ever, even more successful than CD!

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