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BigB88 · 10-31-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TruBlu2

NOW is the time for Warner Brothers and Weinstein to go Blu exclusive!!!!!!!!!

What are they waiting for?????????????????????????????

Lets get it done already!!!!!!!!!

Prediction: Warner is waiting out 2007 to see how many HD-DVD cheapass players sell over the Holiday's. If its enough (they probably have some algorithm or formula to figure this all out), they will stay neutral, if not they will go exclusive Blu-ray. This is what will happen and you will probably know by mid January where they stand.

My guess is they will stay neutral because the BDA isn't going to do anything about counteracting the cheap $169 HD-DVD players they will hit this Holiday season, hence, a lot will sell and WB will see this and say "Let's stay neutral for the time being".

jedisinclair · 10-31-2007, 09:21 PM

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11641.cfm

I understand movie studios needs to protect content, but I've also had a couple of DVD's in the past that I purchased that would not play on my Sony DVD player because the disc was riddled with some new copy protection. It's unfortunate that piracy exists which causes these extra methods to be invoked. But, as the link suggests, where there's a will, there's a way... (sigh)

owa · 10-31-2007, 09:24 PM

Here's the thread on this news:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=21877

Be warned, if you venture into that area, it has spawned a lot of joke threads so don't take everything you read seriously.

jermwhl · 10-31-2007, 09:24 PM

I thought BD+ was able to learn these techniques and evolve around them?

bazie · 10-31-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigB88

Prediction: Warner is waiting out 2007 to see how many HD-DVD cheapass players sell over the Holiday's. If its enough (they probably have some algorithm or formula to figure this all out), they will stay neutral, if not they will go exclusive Blu-ray. This is what will happen and you will probably know by mid January where they stand.

My guess is they will stay neutral because the BDA isn't going to do anything about counteracting the cheap $169 HD-DVD players they will hit this Holiday season, hence, a lot will sell and WB will see this and say "Let's stay neutral for the time being".

It seems like there might be a third option here, that they would switch to HDDVD.

smiley · 10-31-2007, 09:27 PM

I knew this was going to happen. I was hoping it would take a while. Is Blu-ray going to loose Fox support again?

Nooff · 10-31-2007, 09:27 PM

If I'm correct, Movie Studios can implement a new BD+ protection system for the next batch of movies meaning they would be back to square 1

zombie · 10-31-2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigB88

Prediction: Warner is waiting out 2007 to see how many HD-DVD cheapass players sell over the Holiday's. If its enough (they probably have some algorithm or formula to figure this all out), they will stay neutral, if not they will go exclusive Blu-ray. This is what will happen and you will probably know by mid January where they stand.

My guess is they will stay neutral because the BDA isn't going to do anything about counteracting the cheap $169 HD-DVD players they will hit this Holiday season, hence, a lot will sell and WB will see this and say "Let's stay neutral for the time being".

I completely agree. And honestly, Warner staying neutral is a hell of a lot better than them taking a bribe ala Paramount. That said, it sure would bring HD DVD to it's knees if they were to go Blu exclusive.

lymzy · 10-31-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by frank_t

I'm curious: what was the turning point which led to the dominance of DVD?

APEX DVD player sold at Wal-Mart on Black Friday for below $100. The rest is history.

BigRick · 10-31-2007, 09:29 PM

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1158323325814

monkyman · 10-31-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by matts

I think I saw an article that said Kmart was owned by Sears. That was one reason.

Actually sears is owned by K-mart.

plee · 10-31-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jermwhl

What brought all these posts on? Is it a halloween thing?! It's not april fool's day

I think he was being sarcastic (I hope)...

JBlacklow · 10-31-2007, 09:33 PM

I'm a little bit leery of "psx3man". The only people that still call the PS3 a PSX3 are pretty much Sony/PS3/Blu-ray haters (long story, based on pigheadedness regarding incorrect information on the PSX name). Those familiar with DeadmeatGA on AVS can begin groaning now. Other clues?

K-Mart is very, very far from being the "largest retailer" of anything, let alone Blu-ray.
The top retailers are Best Buy, Wal-mart, Amazon, Circuit City, and Target and their attendant website.
The "end of Blu-ray!" bit seems like the fake concern I see elsewhere from HD DVD fanboys.

It doesn't help that he/she hasn't made a lot of posts, and those posts are the kind of fluff that seems like they're faking enthusiasm while making BD fans look bad (grammar/spelling, for instance). Grain of salt on this one.

DefTechPioElite · 10-31-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by psx3man

i dont know if anybody read about but there is some huge news for hd dvd that kmart went hd dvd exclusive. I cant believe that the largest retail store could do this. It could be the end for blu-ray.

yeah, i read about this. Sont just needs to bite the bullet and sell the BDP-S1 for 200-300. I dont think they NEED to, but I believe it will help.

lymzy · 10-31-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB88

Prediction: Warner is waiting out 2007 to see how many HD-DVD cheapass players sell over the Holiday's. If its enough (they probably have some algorithm or formula to figure this all out), they will stay neutral

Not sure about the stay neutral part. It looks to me Warner is tired of supporting two format. Strategic investment could go only this far for a certain content delivery method.

Quote from http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...2bb7aed90a45d6

"A Warner source said the studio is watching what happens now that Wal-Mart and other big retailers are selling entry-level Toshiba HD DVD players for less than $200, about half what the cheapest Blu-ray player costs. If there is a significant spike in HD DVD software sales, the studio may cast its lot with that format, whereas if there is no real impact, Warner may go Blu-ray only."

It is very clear. Warner will support the one who could achieve volume business first. If HD DVD could not achieve that with <$200 player, than nothing else will help Microshiba. Warner will simply dump red and go blu exclusive.

gumpaholic · 10-31-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Largest retailer? Kmart?!

No kidding! All of the K-Marts except ONE (and thats about 10 miles away!)are now GONE in my area! That tells you how good the store REALLY is!

bazie · 10-31-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lymzy

It is very clear. Warner will support the one who could achieve volume business first. If HD DVD could not achieve that with <$200 player, than nothing else will help Microshiba. Warner will simply dump red and go blu exclusive.

precisely. and on the flip side if bluray software/hardware sales don't really increase much in Q4 but HDDVD standalones absolutely take off they might dump blu and go red exclusive.

user friendly · 10-31-2007, 09:40 PM

They still sell the PS3 and actual BD movies though. Just not standalone BD players.

lymzy · 10-31-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bazie

precisely. and on the flip side if bluray software/hardware sales don't really increase much in Q4 but HDDVD standalones absolutely take off they might dump blu and go red exclusive.

Cross finger and hope history doesn't repeat itself this time.

blackhawktraffic · 10-31-2007, 09:45 PM

K Mart would be the smallest and biggest piece of shit, or maybe tied with Wal Mart.

10-31-2007, 09:21 PM	#422
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	BD+ Cracked by Slysoft http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11641.cfm I understand movie studios needs to protect content, but I've also had a couple of DVD's in the past that I purchased that would not play on my Sony DVD player because the disc was riddled with some new copy protection. It's unfortunate that piracy exists which causes these extra methods to be invoked. But, as the link suggests, where there's a will, there's a way... (sigh)

10-31-2007, 09:29 PM	#430
BigRick Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:ANAHEIM, CA Trading Score:3	The BDA Needs A Cheap Player ASAP! http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1158323325814

10-31-2007, 09:33 PM	#433
JBlacklow Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	I'm a little bit leery of "psx3man". The only people that still call the PS3 a PSX3 are pretty much Sony/PS3/Blu-ray haters (long story, based on pigheadedness regarding incorrect information on the PSX name). Those familiar with DeadmeatGA on AVS can begin groaning now. Other clues? K-Mart is very, very far from being the "largest retailer" of anything, let alone Blu-ray. The top retailers are Best Buy, Wal-mart, Amazon, Circuit City, and Target and their attendant website. The "end of Blu-ray!" bit seems like the fake concern I see elsewhere from HD DVD fanboys. It doesn't help that he/she hasn't made a lot of posts, and those posts are the kind of fluff that seems like they're faking enthusiasm while making BD fans look bad (grammar/spelling, for instance). Grain of salt on this one.

10-31-2007, 09:24 PM	#423
owa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 96	Here's the thread on this news: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=21877 Be warned, if you venture into that area, it has spawned a lot of joke threads so don't take everything you read seriously.

10-31-2007, 09:24 PM	#424
jermwhl Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Virginia	I thought BD+ was able to learn these techniques and evolve around them?

10-31-2007, 09:27 PM	#426
smiley Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Barron, WI Blu-ray collection:144	I knew this was going to happen. I was hoping it would take a while. Is Blu-ray going to loose Fox support again?

10-31-2007, 09:27 PM	#427
Nooff Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007	If I'm correct, Movie Studios can implement a new BD+ protection system for the next batch of movies meaning they would be back to square 1

10-31-2007, 09:40 PM	#438
user friendly Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Great White North Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:87	They still sell the PS3 and actual BD movies though. Just not standalone BD players.

10-31-2007, 09:45 PM	#440
blackhawktraffic Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Upland, CA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:18 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:228	K Mart would be the smallest and biggest piece of shit, or maybe tied with Wal Mart.

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