Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by wormraper

you can't tell the difference between lossless and lossy?

Don't need to need to, 5.1 is good enough. Master audio is a total cash grab. Cinemas have been playing 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS for two decades. People cannot tell the difference

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Don't need to need to, 5.1 is good enough. Master audio is a total cash grab. Cinemas have been playing 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS for two decades. People cannot tell the difference

lol, dodging the question as usual.

and no DD and DTS in the cinemas are NOT the same as their Home theater counterparts. bitrates are COMPLETELY different

the amount of juking and dodging around these questions about your setup and the codecs is insane.

[KRW1]

Originally Posted by KRW1

A few years ago, you'd have been one of those people telling us that pro-logic was good enough for most people and people weren't interested in upgrading a reciever to hear 5.1 as 'the upgrade isn't enough of a pull'.

Like clockwork.

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Don't need to need to, 5.1 is good enough. Master audio is a total cash grab. Cinemas have been playing 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS for two decades. People cannot tell the difference

We're not talking about cinema, we're talking about a home set up, what's your home set up?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Recievers are nowhere near what they were once in popularity. Most people do not care. The old recievers will handle 5.1 from no problem.

Speaker bars do not count as speakers being thrown at you, those speakers are used to improve audio from the big screen speakers

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, wrong again. look at the sales stats for receivers, they are up to the highest in over a decade right now

and pretty much any modern receiver will handle the new codecs just fine.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by KRW1

Like clockwork.



We're not talking about cinema, we're talking about a home set up, what's your home set up?

lol, I know, he statements get more and more ridiculous as time goes on.

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by KRW1

Like clockwork.



We're not talking about cinema, we're talking about a home set up, what's your home set up?

The bit rate for Dolby Digital is actually less than what you can get in the home. This is why master audio is a TOTAL scam

[Taikero]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

The bit rate for Dolby Digital is actually less than what you can get in the home. This is why master audio is a TOTAL scam

Didn't you just prove that Master Audio isn't a scam because Dolby Digital has a lower bitrate than it, and you can get Master Audio in the home as a completely lossless rendition of a film or television show's audio?

Really, dude, read what you write before posting it. If your words were a gun you'd have blown off your leg by now.

[KRW1]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

The bit rate for Dolby Digital is actually less than what you can get in the home. This is why master audio is a TOTAL scam

Come on, that's desperate waffle. What's your home set up?

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Taikero

Didn't you just prove that Master Audio isn't a scam because Dolby Digital has a lower bitrate than it, and you can get Master Audio in the home as a completely lossless rendition of a film or television show's audio?

Really, dude, read what you write before posting it. If your words were a gun you'd have blown off your leg by now.

Higher bit rates are meaningless, it is a total scam. Dolby digital for cinemas is fixed at 320 , it is the standard. Master audio can have as much as they want but you are not going to tell the difference

[wormraper]

this is amazing, I feel like i'm in a sitcom!!!!

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Higher bit rates are meaningless, it is a total scam. Dolby digital for cinemas is fixed at 320 , it is the standard. Master audio can have as much as they want but you are not going to tell the difference

lol, there's a reason most theaters sound like total crap.... most theater's won't even have bass below 30 hz.... not because it's no use going that low but because it's not easy to control vibrations from spreading to other theater screens at that low of a frequency. So does that mean these sub 20 hz subs that we have nowadays are worthless? theater's don't have the best set ups and haven't for quite some time

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by wormraper

this is amazing, I feel like i'm in a sitcom!!!!

It is amazing, cinemas have played compressed dd 5.1 at 320 for 23 years. All of a sudden master audio comes around and everyone gets all excited

Master audio is just a selling feature. That's it. You can't hear a difference.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

It is amazing, cinemas have played compressed dd 5.1 at 320 for 23 years. All of a sudden master audio comes around and everyone gets all excited

Master audio is just a selling feature. That's it. You can't hear a difference.

dude, when going digital most theaters are using uncompressed PCM

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by wormraper

lol, there's a reason most theaters sound like total crap.... most theater's won't even have bass below 30 hz.... not because it's no use going that low but because it's not easy to control vibrations from spreading to other theater screens at that low of a frequency. So does that mean these sub 20 hz subs that we have nowadays are worthless? theater's don't have the best set ups and haven't for quite some time

I would love for you to prove this?

Keep in that some directors believe that you can mess up 2 channel and above but you can't mess up mono sound.

[img eL]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

It is amazing, cinemas have played compressed dd 5.1 at 320 for 23 years. All of a sudden master audio comes around and everyone gets all excited

Master audio is just a selling feature. That's it. You can't hear a difference.

pagemaster do you even have a receiver that can play master audio?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

I would love for you to prove this?

Keep in that some directors believe that you can mess up 2 channel and above but you can't mess up mono sound.

prove what??? that theater's don't sound as good as my home cinema? easy, all I have to do is walk into one to hear the difference in 35 mm film (digital is a completely different story)

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by img eL

pagemaster do you even have a receiver that can play master audio?

don't expect an answer. we've been asking him for pages and he just bobs around the question. it's obvious at this point that he's a troll. reminds me of a guy on AVS who used to stir up trouble by saying that he was an ex projectionist from the U.K. and he could remember all these little nuances that Lossless audio just couldn't replicate from the cinema etc...

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by wormraper

dude, when going digital most theaters are using uncompressed PCM

Agree, but digital is new and there are still 35mm theatres around

I have heard digital PCM uncompressed in theates, big deal, no diff

[KRW1]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

I would love for you to prove this?

Keep in that some directors believe that you can mess up 2 channel and above but you can't mess up mono sound.

I would love for you to list your equipment, as you've decided for everyone what they can and can't hear, we at least deserve the courtesy of knowing what blind tests you've done at home and on what.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Agree, but digital is new and there are still 35mm theatres around

I have heard digital PCM uncompressed in theates, big deal, no diff

I can hear a difference INSTANTLY.. clarity, dynamic range etc are HUGELY better