Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Anything of any real promise will flop because human kind in general reject quality.

Really. Then how did we get to this point in the first place?

Shouldn't we all still be parked in front of snowy black and white tvs watching whatever the three networks and local UHF stations decide to throw our way?

[rdodolak]

Meh, Blu-ray is old technology ... I'm waiting to upgrade to data crystals.

[Tok]

Originally Posted by MrsMiniver

I think there is going to be a big shift coming soon. All that needs to happen is for the studios to delay the release of the bluray disc and support the online streaming options. The studios all came together to put an end to 35mm in movie theatres and gave a huge incentive to theatre owners to convert to digital, once that happened and a number of key owners got on board everything changed. Now it appears that some studios simply do not make 35mm prints for some films. Same sort of thing can happen to bluray.

Currently, there is a lot of money being made on bluray releases, but that can change quickly.

Although I love my Redbox machine that is just two minutes walking distance from my house, if the studios block content to Redbox like Warner does, then Redbox will simply go out of business. Success in renting movies is dependent on new releases.

Right now I only rent from Redbox because the option is there at such a low price, I probably would not walk over to the machine if the bluray rental was the same cost as an iTunes or online rental. I sure as hell do not rent from Redbox instant. I will admit, for a big release such as Man of Steel, I would pay for a bluray rental at the same cost as an iTunes rental. I don't care for smaller releases.

I don't think bluray will die on its own, there is some big money to be made in the bluray pipeline that studios just cannot abandon it. However, if the studios all came together and put forth a plan on increasing streaming market share, we will see and end to dominance of bluray. Eventually I think that will happen as the profit margins from streaming will be higher.

The problem with that forced shift is that most of the disc buying public has shunned paying top dollar for streaming/download content. The only way they are getting people to buy in is with highly discounted exclusive windows and throwing them in.

Go ahead try to force me. It ain't happening if they want my money.

[Cbeck]

Originally Posted by MrsMiniver

I think there is going to be a big shift coming soon. All that needs to happen is for the studios to delay the release of the bluray disc and support the online streaming options. The studios all came together to put an end to 35mm in movie theatres and gave a huge incentive to theatre owners to convert to digital, once that happened and a number of key owners got on board everything changed. Now it appears that some studios simply do not make 35mm prints for some films. Same sort of thing can happen to bluray.

Currently, there is a lot of money being made on bluray releases, but that can change quickly.

Although I love my Redbox machine that is just two minutes walking distance from my house, if the studios block content to Redbox like Warner does, then Redbox will simply go out of business. Success in renting movies is dependent on new releases.

Right now I only rent from Redbox because the option is there at such a low price, I probably would not walk over to the machine if the bluray rental was the same cost as an iTunes or online rental. I sure as hell do not rent from Redbox instant. I will admit, for a big release such as Man of Steel, I would pay for a bluray rental at the same cost as an iTunes rental. I don't care for smaller releases.

I don't think bluray will die on its own, there is some big money to be made in the bluray pipeline that studios just cannot abandon it. However, if the studios all came together and put forth a plan on increasing streaming market share, we will see and end to dominance of bluray. Eventually I think that will happen as the profit margins from streaming will be higher.

I think you are pretty much on the mark . I think there will be always be a market for discs in the collector's market, the same way there is still a market for limited edition vinyl album releases. But the mainstream is headed towards streaming/downloading. I think the studios along with television manufacturers will push people more towards getting content online. I expect as 4k televisions become the norm, many( if not all) of them will be equipped to receive content online. Many people won't see a need for discs as prices for online content drop and it is essentially right at their fingetips when they turn on the tv.

[Kristian Idol]

And four years ago, Katzenberg said, "In five years, everything will be 3D."

[Packerfan75]

I think the difference is between people who like to watch movies vs people who like to own movies.
Some people just want to watch something so they don't mind streaming through Netflix or some other service.
Then there's people who are on this site and others who like to own their favorite movies. For those who like to own, it'll be alot longer than 5 years before an affordable hard drive is even available to hold our libraries. Not to mention most of us like owning a physical copy,artwork included. That's something digital will never satisfy. There's also the problem with many people's internet connections.
Personally, I find streaming/downloading still inferior in picture and sound quality and will have to see that change first before I see bluray going anywhere. I like my blus and dvd's and have no intention of replacing them. I'll stock up on bluray players if there's ever a threat.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Kristian Idol

And four years ago, Katzenberg said, "In five years, everything will be 3D."

And ten years ago, he said "Hard disk (DVD) sales are dead!"
(Because not as many people bought permanent copies of Shrek 2 as he thought would. )

Originally Posted by OI8T12

Only time will tell.

And shoot off its big mouth.

Time is not exactly Wired when it comes to writing about tech-trends, much though it would dearly aspire to be. Time more represents the Upwardly-Mobile Mainstream Dope, who's just gotten hooked on their iPads and follows trends, but if the mainstream public thinks streaming is the "future", they're in for a few nasty surprises in the fine print...

[jsvg00]

Let's not forget that Time magazine is part of Time/Warner which makes a huge amount of money from their cable/satellite/internet services. They would love nothing more than to see the end of a competing format especially if it means increasing revenues for their ISP business. They are also behind the coalition of internet service providers lobbying the US government to allow them to use the PPV model for internet browsing.

This reminds me of back in the day when WWF wrestling was stomping Monday Night Football in the ratings war and ABC/Disney and the NFL were losing big bucks. All of a sudden ABC news, 20/20 and Disney were putting out stories about the evils of wrestling, and how it was destroying the youth and the country's moral foundation.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by jsvg00

Let's not forget that Time magazine is part of Time/Warner which makes a huge amount of money from their cable/satellite/internet services. They would love nothing more than to see the end of a competing format especially if it means increasing revenues for their ISP business. They are also behind the coalition of internet service providers lobbying the US government to allow them to use the PPV model for internet browsing.

Studios have also been selling non-ownership/PPV formats since before the days of DiVX.
They were used to sixty years of a system where they controlled the movies, and when VHS first went on consumer sale, we all embraced the ideas that WE owned the movies and wouldn't have to rely on TV or theatrical re-releases anymore.
And now that every movie can be bought, studios are trying to figure out how to not make that seem as attractive as a system where we come to the studios' doors like Oliver Twist, saying "May we have some of your quality entertainment please? "

I'm on Warner's little net-community of forum/survey fans, and we're asked fairly constantly whether we're already planning to pre-order (latest hit movie) on Digital Download.
They're not sure, you see, but they want to see if there are as many people who'll say "Sure!" as they want to imagine there are.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by GaragePoet

just because we really needed another thread about how long BDs are gonna be around...

I view such provocative threads on Blu-ray.com analogous to placing an electrode in the lateral hypothalamus of rats and them self-stimulating the “reward center” which in past years was referred to as the “pleasure” center.

Motivation: Self-Stimulation in Rats - YouTube

I’ll press the lever only once….http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/04/f...ic-sales-drop/

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Packerfan75

I think the difference is between people who like to watch movies vs people who like to own movies.

Fixed it for you

I think the difference is between people who just want to watch the movie however they can get it vs. people who want it in the best way they can get it PQ & AQ

[Blu Titan]

We have seen way too many threads about the same subject . Neflix, Netflix? Netflix does not even have that many movies, 90% of the movies they offer are WEAK in terms of the quality offered... A lot of them so bad as they are unwatchable (older films) Movies in your list one day gone the next.

[punkguy03]

As has been stated already we still have cds! Blu-ray isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Time will tell, but I'm not putting any stock in the article. Heck I have a stand alone gps too and I like it a lot more than my gps on my galaxy s3. It just works better to me.

It's all about personal preference.

[punkguy03]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

We have seen way too many threads about the same subject . Neflix, Netflix? Netflix does not even have that many movies, 90% of the movies they offer are WEAK in terms of the quality offered... A lot of the so bad as they are unwatchable (older films) Movies in your list one day gone the next.

Exactly! I'm still upset that King of the Hill is off of Netflix, also all the anime has subtitles no dubs at all. I don't mind subtitles, but for some stupid reason Netflix uses yellow lettering for most of them and it's extremely distracting and hard to read.

[mredman]

How can these streaming and digital nerds not get in their head there is no profit in that for the studio.
There is noway they can charge you for 30-40 dollars for a movie to download or stream not to mention TV shows boxsets that go for more. If they charged that much for a stream or a download people would not pay that when they can just get it for FREE by getting the stuff ILLEGALLY.

There will be physical media co-exist with streaming and digital and they would always earn more on physical media because they can charge more for it and they can sell LOADS of it at Christmas times and Black friday ect...
The studios would litteraly go under with only streaming and digital.



Look at the headlines Germany in october had new sales records on blu ray, Black Friday and Christmas shopping was on a all new high in the states. Now this week there was just a headline from UK that Blu Ray sales has increased 10% from last year. You know what that is in money for the studios. That is BILLIONS. On streaming they wouldn't even be able to earn 5% of that. And this is only bluray we are talking about here. There is DVD,CD also and thats again more MONEY for physical media

The bulk of the money for studios comes from physical media without it you can say goodbye to big blockbuster movies and hello again to silent films because that will be the only thing they will be able to do with the little money they can even get from streaming and digital

[vargo]

Originally Posted by mredman

The bulk of the money for studios comes from physical media without it you can say goodbye to big blockbuster movies and hello again to silent films because that will be the only thing they will be able to do with the little money they can even get from streaming and digital

You are completely forgetting the box office.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by vargo

You are completely forgetting the box office.

there is very few movies that make a profit from BO.

[DarkDune]

"What will happen after Blu-ray?"

After Blu-ray, I will be in fact watching...another Blu-ray!

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by DiscoDan

we still have CDs for cryin out loud! And those really ARE worthless now, especially since many sites are starting to sell lossless downloads.

Could you point me to those sites? I have not found very many that offer FLAC files and when I do the selection is very limited and/or the prices exceed a CD for the whole album. I have found very few singles in FLAC format.

AFAIK, Amazon only sells singles in MP3.

[Krelldog1977]

Guys,

Check out this article- Is Blu-ray dying or what? ridiculous.

http://techland.time.com/2014/01/02/...ad-in-5-years/