Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

Microwaves are a whole bunch of suck. I don't own one and never will.

they are useful for some stuff (like heating food).

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by koover

Well a library is just a term. It can be a group of films of 100 or 2000. Why so literal?
As for anyone can be on here and enjoy this site, of course they can. But some people on here are just pointing out (like me) that if you like streaming so much and prefer it to BD, why the interest? Anyone can do what they want to do. It's just a little odd to be here if streaming is your thing. That's all man!

because they are trolls and here for propaganda and FUD.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by octagon

I've read it in full every time you've posted it.

TV aren't going anywhere.

It's just ain't gonna happen.

When I was a kid a 25 inch display had to be built into dresser sized consoles. I've got a monitor almost that size on my desk right now.

It wasn't that many years ago that anything over 36 inches required huge appliance-sized rear projection. Now 40some inches is the median screen size in the US.

Do my nephews and nieces watch a lot of stuff on 17 inch laptop screens? Sure but so what. When I was their age I used to watch a lot of stuff on a 12 inch black-and-white portable with no ill effects that I can see.

it does not happen often but I agree

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes but youngsters are transfixed by these portable devices. They guard them with their lives. That type of attachment isn't going away. Back in the day portable TVs were all they had. Now these devices are very much a part of their lives. I have even talked to a young guy (19 or 20, not sure) who told me he sleeps with phone next to him on his pillow lol.

yes and if you ask a young boy if he has a GF he will say no girls are icky and a young girl boys are icky. They grow out of it. Do you think that 19 or 20 year old will always sleep with his phone? no at some point he will grow up and get a GF/BF to sleep next to. You are missing the obvious at some point most youngsters today will grow up buy a home and have a family and want to watch stuff with others. You can't sit with the wife and kids around a smart phone looking at the screen. You can't have friends over for the sports games. Your scenario where tablets /phones and watches are the only screens misses the obvious that people like gathering together and joining into an activity together.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Umnnnn, not really, uh-uh ...I still don't for the life of me know WHY you, or the rest of the industry, still, stubbornly and to the last standing man, insists on applying the music/MP3 model as a pattern to "what's going to happen" to movies and TV, unless they've ever walked down Main Street with their eyes glued to a Game of Thrones rerun. I've never done that, have you? Stand up and tell the class the last time you did.
Music is portable and movies aren't (unlike audio, you generally have to be sitting down in one place, even a portable place, and not looking at anything else to enjoy them), and that's been the one rather fundamental "Why boys and girls are different" niggling fact about trying to apply one industry sales model to the other: You can argue theory all you like, but when it comes down to real-world scenarios...

I don't think it is the music/MP3 model after all there are tons of manufacturers that make speakers for portable music players. For many music has gone portable but his view is beyond portable, what he is pedaling is the complete destruction of society since he thinks people won't want to have parties in their homes (speakers instead of earphones) or get together and watch stuff ( TV instead of mobile device)

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by #Darren

Can you imagine in the future your politicians dream of, getting access to great films of yesteryear?

Taken - quietly removed from circulation - shows muslims in a bad light. A similar film, "Spartan," already seems to be a no no for US release.

Any films about the American revolution - hard to get - don't want to encourage dissent.

1984 - that's gotta go - don't want people making the comparison....

ALL gay slurs censored from films.

etc etc.

MAYBE a good idea to keep physical copies...

government is bad but corporations is even worst.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

yes and if you ask a young boy if he has a GF he will say no girls are icky and a young girl boys are icky. They grow out of it. Do you think that 19 or 20 year old will always sleep with his phone? no at some point he will grow up and get a GF/BF to sleep next to. You are missing the obvious at some point most youngsters today will grow up buy a home and have a family and want to watch stuff with others. You can't sit with the wife and kids around a smart phone looking at the screen. You can't have friends over for the sports games. Your scenario where tablets /phones and watches are the only screens misses the obvious that people like gathering together and joining into an activity together.

I'm not sure they will grow out of it. Even toddlers are using ipads etc.. These devices are just as important to people in their twenties and thirties. Woman especially seem to spend a lot of time on those things. Never before have we had such a personal device that does everything. Radio, games, tv, films, books, internet, spotify etc.. I actually find it comical that people don't see my fears coming true. Like I said before, buy into streaming now and there is no going back.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I don't think it is the music/MP3 model after all there are tons of manufacturers that make speakers for portable music players. For many music has gone portable but his view is beyond portable, what he is pedaling is the complete destruction of society since he thinks people won't want to have parties in their homes (speakers instead of earphones) or get together and watch stuff ( TV instead of mobile device)

Who, apart from teens have parties in their homes? These devices have changed everything for the worse in my opinion. If the wife is watching a soap downstairs, the husband can bang some headphones on and watch the football etc.. Same scenario for the bedroom or wherever.

[franken_psycho1990]

Originally Posted by bhampton

How can this be ok?...

I've heard a bunch of the streaming is on the wrong aspect ratio too.

I've personally seen HD streaming that looked worse than Up Converted DVD. (I'm a big fan of a bad movie called Earth Girls Are Easy and I've had the DVD forever,.. When I saw it was streaming in HD on Amazon I checked it out having never seen it in HD before ... looked bad... My DVD looks better.)


I guess (most) streaming people just want easy access and they don't really care about what they are watching.

-Brian

I noticed stuff like this. On Netflix HD means: "Almost as good looking as DVD".
I swear!

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I'm not sure they will grow out of it. Even toddlers are using ipads etc.. These devices are just as important to people in their twenties and thirties. Woman especially seem to spend a lot of time on those things. Never before have we had such a personal device that does everything. Radio, games, tv, films, books, internet, spotify etc.. I actually find it comical that people don't see my fears coming true. Like I said before, buy into streaming now and there is no going back.

well I don't buy into streaming (anyone that spent any time on this site knows that) but what you say just does not make sense.

1) streaming is immaterial, the same way as iTunes is immaterial and CDs are immaterial. People will buy what they want and as long as one technology has some advantage it does not matter what else is out there. Records have some advantages and so have some fans and so records still exist and every year there is a lot of new music that comes out on records. Others don't care for what it has too offer and prefer CDs and so CDs became popular but records did not disappear when CDEs hit the market now there is itunes and some that care more for convenience than quality have bought into it but both CDs and LPs still exist and if you track the numbers there is no proof that either of those two will ever disappear. The same is true here

2) you are missing the obvious, it does not matter if young people love their tablets, phones...... and I am not saying later they won't. In your scenario it is important if that means they don't buy TVs later. That is where the disconnect happens. There are some shows/movies I like and my GF does not and so we watch them when we are not together. There are others we both like and so we watch them together. I did not build an HT with 10 HT seats for every day watching (not every day is a party) but so that when we are 10 we can sit there and I got stools.... for when we are more.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by franken_psycho1990

People are complete idiots, The physical media market makes way too much money to do away with. Oh yeah, They are putting out 4k BDs the end of 2014 or early 2015 but physical media is dead... Hahahaha I swear if people had a brain they'd be dangerous!

This just look at sales at black friday and christmas shopping in 1 week at black friday blu ray generated and increase from last year and on a wooping 126 million dollars that is US ALONE and in december 256 million dolllars also US ALONE. If these streaming morons think sales of digital will increase in those times then they are just insane.
This vargo guy the things he says is quite insane. Even CD's is being released from all labels and all big artists. There will always be collectors and people that love to OWN their favorite movies and tv shows in the best PQ and AQ.

Hell even projectors sell and those that have those want physical media as in BLU RAY's and i can tell you this streaming and digital looks like crap on a 120 inch screen compared to how incredible blu rays look and sound

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Who, apart from teens have parties in their homes?

everyone I know (well depending what you mean by parties obviously). I had over 20 people t Christmas, last summer my sister had a lamb roast and there were over 50 people there.

These devices have changed everything for the worse in my opinion. If the wife is watching a soap downstairs, the husband can bang some headphones on and watch the football etc.. Same scenario for the bedroom or wherever.

and this is new? As far as I can remember we had 2+ TVs in the home which meant some times some people would be watching one thing on the better TV while someone else would watch something different on the crappier one. The difference is you are now assuming people will want to exclude the possibility of watching something together and that is what does not make sense.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Studios definitely want everyone to switch to digital, but if the niche market demands physical product and the studios can make money off us I'm sure we'll get what we want. I've said this before but I really think it's going to be the laserdisc days all over again. 90% of people will be streaming (buying VHS) but we'll be paying a heavy premium to get blu rays (laserdiscs).

noway in hell. studios earn way to much on physical media for that its physical media that keeps studios alive. Just look at sales at black friday and christmas shopping in 1 week at black friday blu ray generated and increase from last year and on a wooping 126 million dollars that is US ALONE and in december 256 million dolllars also US ALONE also an increase from last year. Streaming and digital can not even get close to that. Again this is ONLY US ALONE

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Who, apart from teens have parties in their homes? These devices have changed everything for the worse in my opinion. If the wife is watching a soap downstairs, the husband can bang some headphones on and watch the football etc.. Same scenario for the bedroom or wherever.

uhhhh, everyone I know has parties at their homes, and we're in our 30's, my parents in their 70's have parties in their home several times a year.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by wormraper

uhhhh, everyone I know has parties at their homes, and we're in our 30's, my parents in their 70's have parties in their home several times a year.

Family gatherings yes but parties? I really am introvert lol.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes, it is a bit obsessive but the smiley is a bit strong mate. I guess it's my lifestyle. Single man, no wife, kids etc.. I'm a bit of an introvert and I guess an outsider. My loves are very different to what the many do, especially in England. I don't drink (apart from special occasions) so I don't go to pubs/bars nightclubs etc.. I don't really do crowds unless we are talking football and I like to visit the theatre, rester-aunts so I know I am a bit different to the usual drinking culture of England. I have several friends that I have known for over fifteen years and trust. Maybe that explains why I care so much about home cinema, I spend far more time in there than socialising. I am at peace when I am watching a movie or tv show it's when I am happiest apart from family time and rare outings with good friends. So, it might be a bit of a deep answer but it may explain my persistent fears? Please be assured though, that these concerns only ever come from the heart, nothing else.

Really? That's a surprise. You sure don't POST like a Really Lonely Guy...

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Really? That's a surprise. You sure don't POST like a Really Lonely Guy...

Two questions

1. What do you mean?
2. Who said I was lonely?

What a odd reply. You obviously don't understand what introverted truly means. It is becoming tiresome to read a post with a (in my opinion) little dig (smiley) at the end. If you have something to say just come out and say it.

[Mad Dad]

Not sure if this necessarily belongs in this thread, but I couldnt find a better place to vent.
I recently signed up for the free 2 week Warner Brothers Archive streaming trial offer. There seemed to be quite a few titles that I was interested in viewing (titles which are not available on blu-ray, which I prefer over streaming), so I signed up and got my free trial. Once the trial period ended, I let it rollover into the monthly pay account. Lo and behold, many of the titles I was interested in are now not available. Needless to say, Ive already canceled so that all they get out of me is one months fee.
Just a word of warning to anyone who may be considering, be sure to watch whatever it is you want within the free trial period - chances are, they wont be available once you start paying.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Mad Dad

Not sure if this necessarily belongs in this thread, but I couldnt find a better place to vent.
I recently signed up for the free 2 week Warner Brothers Archive streaming trial offer. There seemed to be quite a few titles that I was interested in viewing (titles which are not available on blu-ray, which I prefer over streaming), so I signed up and got my free trial. Once the trial period ended, I let it rollover into the monthly pay account. Lo and behold, many of the titles I was interested in are now not available. Needless to say, Ive already canceled so that all they get out of me is one months fee.
Just a word of warning to anyone who may be considering, be sure to watch whatever it is you want within the free trial period - chances are, they wont be available once you start paying.

Are you having a laugh? This is physical media only thread.

[Mad Dad]

As I said, I prefer blu-ray (physical media) to streaming. Just trying to point out another reason why. With the WB streaming service, as with all others, you are at the mercy of the provider on what you can watch. You don't have those restrictions when you own a "physical media" copy. I didn't realize the sentiment of my post was so cryptic.