Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[bhampton]

Once you get to ultraviolet its beyond the visible spectrum so I don't think asking what color makes sense.

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Once you get to ultraviolet its beyond the visible spectrum so I don't think asking what color makes sense.

We will then enter the world of X-Ray and Gamma Ray.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Correct. Nice to find a person able to interpret the data as it stands. Sony has been losing billlions every year for the last ten years. Sony has sold many assets to obtain liquidity and it has continiously made top personel moves in hopes of changing its course. So far it has failed.

Its TV sales are dismal and the brand value has eroded...They have a lot of problems. Gone are the days of the Walkman, Erickson, the PS 1&2, the Bravias ect. In addition, the studio section in the last couple of years has flopped. Blu-ray and DVD are more viable than ever as the chance of another physical format emerging are very slim. Streaming will always have limitations including actual ownership of something.

I think most on here interpreted the data that way. And for these same reasons a Sony backed 4K Blu-ray medium most likely is not going to happen.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

You do know that Blu-ray is a just a physical media to hold data, right? Where the data is stored, a disc, the cloud, doesn't matter as long as the data quality/streaming rate is the same. 505mbps can easily handle the data stream of a Blu-ray and probably can handle an 8k stream.

While I agree that streaming will eventually take over physical media, I think you're very naive about what the ISPs and MSOs are going to deliver in the U.S., as opposed to what they advertise.

First of all, I NEVER get anything close to the advertised speed from my ISP. Secondly, when I do watch streaming movies via my Blu-ray player or TV's web services, there's a test I can run which shows whether I have enough bandwidth. It shows enough bandwidth, but then inevitably, an hour into the movie, it starts to stutter and drops down to lower quality.

Furthermore, it doesn't matter what these pipes are capable of because there are always going to be more and more users requiring more and more bandwidth. This is what scares the hell out of the ISPs and why they want to charge sites like YouTube, which use unbelievable amounts of bandwidth, more money.

That means that the ISPs and MSOs are always going to use data compression and in most cases that's going to be mean lossy data compression.

And the last issue is that most people don't want to pay more, especially in a still-crappy economy for most people (and just on principle for others). I don't know what Comcast is charging for the higher bandwidth, but if it's an extra $50 a month, that's an extra $600 a year that I would much rather spend on Blu-ray, than on streaming, not even including the cost of renting the film. I usually reserve streaming for crappier movies that I know I'm only going to want to watch once.

Having said that, since most people don't care about quality (otherwise Blu-ray would have a much higher physical market share than it does), streaming will eventually dominate in spite of the crappier quality. It may be different in other countries where the Government provides much of the internet infrastructure.

According to a report issued this past July, the U.S. is 9th in the world in terms of average internet speed, behind South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Latvia, the Czech Republic and Sweden.

We're behind Latvia? That sounds like a joke in a Mel Brooks movie.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

We will then enter the world of X-Ray and Gamma Ray.

There you go - "I went out and bought the new Gamma of Justice League, it was so unreal man." Has a nice ring to it.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

While I agree that streaming will eventually take over physical media, I think you're very naive about what the ISPs and MSOs are going to deliver in the U.S., as opposed to what they advertise.

First of all, I NEVER get anything close to the advertised speed from my ISP. Secondly, when I do watch streaming movies via my Blu-ray player or TV's web services, there's a test I can run which shows whether I have enough bandwidth. It shows enough bandwidth, but then inevitably, an hour into the movie, it starts to stutter and drops down to lower quality.

Furthermore, it doesn't matter what these pipes are capable of because there are always going to be more and more users requiring more and more bandwidth. This is what scares the hell out of the ISPs and why they want to charge sites like YouTube, which use unbelievable amounts of bandwidth, more money.

That means that the ISPs and MSOs are always going to use data compression and in most cases that's going to be mean lossy data compression.

And the last issue is that most people don't want to pay more, especially in a still-crappy economy for most people (and just on principle for others). I don't know what Comcast is charging for the higher bandwidth, but if it's an extra $50 a month, that's an extra $600 a year that I would much rather spend on Blu-ray, than on streaming, not even including the cost of renting the film. I usually reserve streaming for crappier movies that I know I'm only going to want to watch once.

Having said that, since most people don't care about quality (otherwise Blu-ray would have a much higher physical market share than it does), streaming will eventually dominate in spite of the crappier quality. It may be different in other countries where the Government provides much of the internet infrastructure.

According to a report issued this past July, the U.S. is 9th in the world in terms of average internet speed, behind South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Latvia, the Czech Republic and Sweden.

We're behind Latvia? That sounds like a joke in a Mel Brooks movie.

I pay for 16/3 from Comcast. I consistently get (with the logs to prove it):



So I think it's naive to take your situation and think that is everyone's situation.

The other thing is you are comparing the average internet speed of very small countries to the U.S.. I think all the countries you named could fit into Texas. On the other hand average internet speed continues to go UP and access continues to EXPAND.

[StankYouSmellyMuch]

Blu-ray dying than expected.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/1/567...irment-charges

[brian9229]

Well with 4k blurays on the way by the end of this year, I wouldn't expect bluray to be going anywhere anytime soon. Besides, for me, bluray quality is perfect and I love it the way it is. I'm going to upgrade to 4k next year but just to own the occasional 4k content my blurays will always be my main media.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by brian9229

Well with 4k blurays on the way by the end of this year, I wouldn't expect bluray to be going anywhere anytime soon. Besides, for me, bluray quality is perfect and I love it the way it is. I'm going to upgrade to 4k next year but just to own the occasional 4k content my blurays will always be my main media.

That ship date seems about as firm as the one for GT5 was back in the day.

[vargo]

Originally Posted by brian9229

Well with 4k blurays on the way by the end of this year

It's May and we havent heard anything more solid than 'plans' to launch a 4K disc format. That means you're not going to see discs on shelves in 2014, 7 or 8 months isn't enough to go from 'plans' to a finalised standard with titles and players on the shelves.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by StankYouSmellyMuch

Blu-ray dying than expected.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/1/567...irment-charges

just pure horseshit. Look at the sales for Frozen and all the big movies and look at GoT blu rays sales. They are monsters for the studios. That they will never get from streaming

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by mredman

just pure horseshit. Look at the sales for Frozen and all the big movies and look at GoT blu rays sales. They are monsters for the studios. That they will never get from streaming

Monsters? Hardly.

In fact, where popular DVDs regularly sold over 6-10 million US copies a year - and still do - only four Blu-ray's (Avatar, Avengers, Dark Knight Rises, Despicable Me 2) have broken the 3 million US sales in a calendar year.

Source: http://www.zdnet.com/whatever-happen...ay-7000028895/

[mredman]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Monsters? Hardly.



Source: http://www.zdnet.com/whatever-happen...ay-7000028895/

definitely WAY more income than streaming for these titles. And thats the main deal. What are you doing on a blu ray site if you are pro streaming

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by mredman

definitely WAY more income than streaming for these titles. And thats the main deal. What are you doing on a blu ray site if you are pro streaming

Who's talking about streaming? We are talking about what is happening to Blu-ray's sales numbers. Or as that article points out, how Sony snatched defeat from the jaws of victory when it beat out Toshiba's HD-DVD format. They haven't turned Blu-ray into the cash cow it was supposed to be.

[bhampton]

Well,

I'm doing my part.

Everybody ... buy them ... buy them all ... now!

-Brian

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by mredman

definitely WAY more income than streaming for these titles. And thats the main deal. What are you doing on a blu ray site if you are pro streaming

Please don't tell me the guy who owns 1 Blu-ray is taking issue with someone who owns hundreds, LOL.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by R3P0

interesting considering blu ray sales have increased like 40% the past few years lol

THIS! they have been singing this same song since 2009. Yet Blu Ray has increased just look at the sales on black friday last year and christmas weeks. They were recordbreaking sales

[mredman]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Please don't tell me the guy who owns 1 Blu-ray is taking issue with someone who owns hundreds, LOL.

Are you serious do you really think i own 1. I own ower 1000 i just have not updated my collection. Because i do not got the time right now

[HDTV1080P]

QUOTES

"But sales of Blu-ray discs have never reached expectations, first because of high prices, and second because of the rise of streaming services such as Netflix and Amazon Instant Video. While display experts agree the Blu-ray disc offers a far superior picture to a streaming video, many consumers prefer the convenience (and often cheaper price) of watching a streaming movie."

"The inevitable demise of the local video store has also hurt Blu-ray as consumers have found it more difficult to rent a movie in Blu-ray. The Redbox kiosk is often the only option for Blu-ray owners in many neighborhoods."

"Primarily due to demand for physical media contracting faster than anticipated, mainly in the European region, the future profitability of the disc manufacturing business has been revised," Sony said today in a statement. "

http://www.tvpredictions.com/tvone050114.htm

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by mredman

Are you serious do you really think i own 1. I own ower 1000 i just have not updated my collection. Because i do not got the time right now

Grammar is your friend as so are BDs.