Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by dadaluholla

Physical media will still be around for years to come, but we will definitely see a steep decline with each generation. If you took a poll of elementary kids and asked if they'd prefer a 90 minute hi-def cinematic experience or the latest YouTube video of someone playing minecraft, the majority of them are going to go with YouTube. The interest in movies just isn't there anymore, at least in the same way it was for those of us who grew up relying on films as a major source of entertainment

Interest in movies isn't there anymore? Have you looked at the BO numbers for the past couple of years? seems to me Hollywood is stronger than ever. Also I will add that if you asked any elementary school kid that same question pre youtube they would choose whatever it is that pleased them(anything short term) rather then sitting around watching a 90 min movie. Kids don't want to sit in one place for a long period of time especially at home. they are active and out and about doing whatever it is that enjoys them. When you were in elementary school did you sit around and watch 90 minute movies? I sure didn't, I'm in my 30s and I bought some DVDs in late HS early College and stopped buying all together when I was around 20. Then 4 years later i got into Blu-Rays and have been purchasing them ever since

To stay on topic though, Physical Media is never going anywhere Digital will never fully take over. They will co-exist with each other and I don't understand why that's so hard to believe. If companies didn't want to continue with the future of physical media they would have never wasted their time and money with 3D BD (3D BD players), UHBD (UHBD players).

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

There's always the possibility that owning discs will be retro and cool in future generations. There's a reason why vinyl is more popular now than it ever has been before.

Well, I wouldn't say vinyl is more popular today. I don't see it along the walls of every store like I did in the late 70's and early 80's..

[42041]

Vinyl is up from being almost entitely dead during the CD's peak. It is waaay down from its own peak and it's growing slower than the cd market is shrinking.
But I suppose it goes to show that a format does not need to be mainstream to be a useful niche.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by 42041

Vinyl is up from being almost entitely dead during the CD's peak. It is waaay down from its own peak and it's growing slower than the cd market is shrinking.

Yup
It's all where you look at it from.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

There's a reason why vinyl is more popular now than it ever has been before.

And more expensive too.
I remember being able to buy an album for $4.99 back in the 80s, and now it's close to $35 for new vinyl.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

So the question to ask isn't if physical media will die in our lifetime, because it won't. We're still here, supporting it, and most collectors of cinema will do just that until they die.
The question is, how will physical media (particularly movies on disc) fare after all of us here in this forum are 80 years old and up, or dead? The kids being born right now will probably not grow up thinking, "I gotta have that on disc", so that sort of hobby won't be an outlet of fun. It's sad to me, actually

I agree. It is sad as I grew up with physical media. But the reality seems to be that children and those born now will probably not grow up on physical media and will stream and buy a few titles in digital form. It seems that is where things are going.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

Interest in movies isn't there anymore? Have you looked at the BO numbers for the past couple of years? seems to me Hollywood is stronger than ever. Also I will add that if you asked any elementary school kid that same question pre youtube they would choose whatever it is that pleased them(anything short term) rather then sitting around watching a 90 min movie. Kids don't want to sit in one place for a long period of time especially at home. they are active and out and about doing whatever it is that enjoys them. When you were in elementary school did you sit around and watch 90 minute movies? I sure didn't, I'm in my 30s and I bought some DVDs in late HS early College and stopped buying all together when I was around 20. Then 4 years later i got into Blu-Rays and have been purchasing them ever since

To stay on topic though, Physical Media is never going anywhere Digital will never fully take over. They will co-exist with each other and I don't understand why that's so hard to believe. If companies didn't want to continue with the future of physical media they would have never wasted their time and money with 3D BD (3D BD players), UHBD (UHBD players).

It's not that interest in movies is waning, its that interest in owning movies or watching a movie multiple times seems to be waning.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

There's always the possibility that owning discs will be retro and cool in future generations. There's a reason why vinyl is more popular now than it ever has been before.

Vinyl was far more popular decades ago when it was the only way to buy music. Today, vinyl is only a lingering shadow of what it once was.

Originally Posted by darkknightman

It's not that interest in movies is waning, its that interest in owning movies or watching a movie multiple times seems to be waning.

I disagree. People still have favorite films they will want to see multiple times, and that's not going to change. Younger people just seem to think that their favorite streaming service will always be there to stream all their favorites whenever they want. They are sadly very mistaken.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

It's not that interest in movies is waning, its that interest in owning movies or watching a movie multiple times seems to be waning.

I don't buy the bolded part.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I agree. It is sad as I grew up with physical media. But the reality seems to be that children and those born now will probably not grow up on physical media and will stream and buy a few titles in digital form. It seems that is where things are going.

Originally Posted by darkknightman

It's not that interest in movies is waning, its that interest in owning movies or watching a movie multiple times seems to be waning.

I think you've stated your opinion in this thread more than enough times. honestly you're just beating a dead horse at this point; we get it dude. Like I stated before streaming and physical media will co exist its really not hard to believe and most likely is going to happen whether you want to believe that or not.

[dadaluholla]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

Interest in movies isn't there anymore? Have you looked at the BO numbers for the past couple of years? seems to me Hollywood is stronger than ever.

The kids aren't buying the tickets.

And yes, as a kid we would constantly sit around and watch 90+ min movies because that's all there was. You wanted to watch a movie, you had TV, cable, going out renting a movie, or going to a theater. That's why being able to purchase films and watch them whenever we want appeals to people like us. Future generations will have so many options for entertainment media that the novelty of a shelf full of plastic discs is not going to be there for them

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by dadaluholla

The kids aren't buying the tickets.

doesn't matter their grandparents and parents are taking them to the movies. as a teen yes i would go out to blockbuster and rent movies, but in elementary school it was mostly Nintendo playing, playing sports or at the park with friends. None of my friends, brothers or myself in elementary school would sit down and watch a movie. TV show or cartoons yes but movie, most likely no

Inside Out 735,912,242 Million WW
Minions 1,049,540,126 Billion WW
Cinderella 542,336,215 Million WW
Home 387,320,581 Million WW
Spongebob Movie 311,594,032 Million WW
Paddington 259,541,430 Million WW

Home (Market Sales)
DVD Sales 17,366,949 Million
BD Sales 17,568,056
Total 34,935,005 Million in sales

Spongebob Movie (Market Sales)
DVD Sales 11,128,313 Million
BD Sales 11,855,044 Million
Total 22,983,357 Million

Paddington (Market Sales)
DVD Sales 8,980,543 Million
BD Sales 6,915,704 Million
Total 15,896,247 Million

Inside Out and Minions Home Market sales are going to soar as well. Home Market and Movies isn't dying by any means for kids, teens or adults. If you compared these Market Sales to Digital; Digital may look like it has more units but revenue is always higher for studios for home video which is why it will never go anywhere. A person buys a movie for 20 bucks and if they rented it at 5 bucks, the odds of that person to browse through a digital library to want to watch that again down the road is very low. the consumer and company gets more value when BD/DVD is purchased. When catalog titles are 5 bucks and you get rent it for 2-3 bucks majority of the time people will just purchase it because why rent something when they can own it for 2 bucks more and have it and watch it whenever they want (of course this situation on catalog titles can go either way but you get my point)

[gates70]

I personally have a large collection and will keep growing it because I want them accessible when I want them. I have people coming over to my theatre all the time and we look through the movies and pick some. It's no worse than people having large book collections that gather dust. I also collect a lot more older movies from the 40's, 50's, 60's etc that might not be readily available like the newer stuff.

[dadaluholla]

That's 2015. Will our kids still be buying physical movies for their children? Probably. But nowhere near the numbers that are currently seen

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by dadaluholla

That's 2015. Will our kids still be buying physical movies for their children? Probably. But nowhere near the numbers that are currently seen

Ha you're talking like 25-30 years from now. Digital may not even be around by then, something new could exist. Let's not jump ahead of ourselves now and worry about the next 10-15 years where we will be enjoying owning movies we enjoy physically and digitally if that's what they choose

[octagon]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

The question is, how will physical media (particularly movies on disc) fare after all of us here in this forum are 80 years old and up, or dead?

What do I care, I'll be dead.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Vinyl was far more popular decades ago when it was the only way to buy music. Today, vinyl is only a lingering shadow of what it once was.




I disagree. People still have favorite films they will want to see multiple times, and that's not going to change..

Exactly.
If you think about it, there's tons more reasons to watch movies multiple times now vs the 90's, 70's, or any time before... We have movie analyzing blogs and sites now. Films like The Shining, The Thing, 2001, Blade Runner... etc are being watched over and over to dissect hidden narratives and whatnot

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

I think you've stated your opinion in this thread more than enough times. honestly you're just beating a dead horse at this point; we get it dude. Like I stated before streaming and physical media will co exist its really not hard to believe and most likely is going to happen whether you want to believe that or not.

This is a discussion about the state of physical media, is it not? I am free to discuss and post when I chose. Why don't you try to contribute something instead of criticizing others.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

This is a discussion about the state of physical media, is it not? I am free to discuss and post when I chose. Why don't you try to contribute something instead of criticizing others.

I'm confused, where did I criticize anybody in anything I posted? You keep stating the same thing over and over again, it's almost as if you're trying to force your opinion on everyone in this thread. I would like to see you post actual facts and numbers to back up your claim, which you haven't done yet. I just posted sales of home media a page back in reply to another member, I would say that is contributing, don't you?

[slimdude]

Physical media isn't going anywhere! Hell, people are still buying record albums, DVDs, CDs, etc at used stores, flea markets and pawn shops. As long there is a world, there will always be physical media on the market. Anyone who think otherwise, is in complete denial.