Oh noes teh sky is falling! - Page 39 - Blu-ray Forum

sj001 · 11-01-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB88

Oh another PhD joining us in this discussion? So, PhD, what have they done, raise their player prices?, kept their title prices high? and haven't placed any pressure on Fox to lower theirs? Let Paramount/Dreamworks slip away? Come on PhD, what have they done? The only thing I can see are the Disney BOGO (Temporary response to TF, just lke getting Fox to release titles again after the Paramount/DW debacle) or Sony's new 40GB PS3 (A great move, but is not enough to counteract Toshiba's "cheap" strategy). Where is Panasonic, Pioneer, Fox, et al When will they join the fight? Sorry PhD, the BDA has done NOTHING for months now, face the truth, they have no clue what they are doing and it is killing Blu-ray.

Dude, you need to chill out!

They've done NOTHING?

Where is Panasonic? Did you not see the press release of their new profile 1.1 player?

Where is FOX? Did you not see all of the new releases they are and have come out with?

How in the hell is it killing Blu-ray? Do you have numbers to back that up?
Ummm, probably not.

Nick Graham · 11-01-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

b/c they wern't selling at $198

Seriously, why would wal-mart loss a hundred dollars on each player they sold if they could sell them at 198. They wouldn't. I think its pretty obvious the players werrn't selling well at 198, so corporate said, we gotta move them, mark them down to 98! This is giong to kill HD DVD, because utimitaly the people who pick these things up are simply going to use them as a dvd player, they won't buy any hd dvds, they'll simply watch dvds. after all toshiba has gone out and bragged to consumers numerous times about how "it makes your dvds look better too!" i think most consumers get confused and don't even realize thers hd discs out there.

Easy: Toshiba says "make a deal with us and we'll practically give you free players for your big holiday sales". Wal-Mart is not losing a dime on these, Toshiba is. I've gotta admit, it's insane but brilliant. One has to think though, that if THIS doesn't get them back to sales parity with Blu, nothing will. 99% of the HDTVs Wal-Mart sells are 720p only, so the 1080i limit isn't going to gall their customer base too much. On the flipside, Toshiba better make sure these things have the newest firmware.

It will be interesting to see how the BDA counters. Sony has hedged their future on Blu succeeding, so I have to assume they will do something, albeit grudgingly.

Rumar 4U · 11-01-2007, 03:32 PM

Hell... HD-DUD's can even give the A-2 player for free, but theres no need to worry about nothing, they dont have many good "TITLES", maybe 10 by the most. When people look for their Disney in their 30 day return policy, stores will have a bunch of players shoving down the sewer...

The Don · 11-01-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Terjyn

We do. Click on his name, "Add to Buddy List", click on the link on the left which says "Buddy/Ignore Lists", and you can add him to the ignore side there.

NICE...

Terjyn · 11-01-2007, 03:33 PM

BigB88 is the guy who comes here every monday to post the sky is falling because on DVDEmpire HD-DVD is leading the week...only he's done it on a grand scale.

Microsoft/Toshiba are effectively paying people ~90$ to get an HD-DVD addon for the 360, yet somehow or another a 0$ buy is the end of the world.

The Don · 11-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB88

Yea great, anyone with an opinion that you don't like or isn't in alignment with YOUR thoughts. I am a Blu-ray supporter who actually cares about the viability and future of the format. You, on the other hand... Well we will just leave it at that.

no..I like opinions...

you're just neurotic...

WhoDat · 11-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don

the average price of an HD DVD movie is 20 bucks?...

FUD

Still, the five free movies continues where the BD has ended as of yesterday. Unless i missed something.

BigB88 · 11-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Yup. If you screw the talent they go elsewhere. 50 Million is a drop in a bucket and Studios with hot talent will make a lot more then 50 million off of them.

Paladin

Last time I checked all the talent was staying put? What talent are you referring to and where are they going? I don't see any talent aligned with their current studio leaving because of the HD market. I think you are assuming quite a lot here.

BigB88 · 11-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don

no..I like opinions...

you're just neurotic...

No, I am realistic.

BigB88 · 11-01-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Terjyn

BigB88 is the guy who comes here every monday to post the sky is falling because on DVDEmpire HD-DVD is leading the week...only he's done it on a grand scale.

Microsoft/Toshiba are effectively paying people ~90$ to get an HD-DVD addon for the 360, yet somehow or another a 0$ buy is the end of the world.

Oh great, now we have members starting with personal attacks and incorrect assertions, what next.

owa · 11-01-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SamInNorthCakalakey

If I can get Heroes and transformers now HD instead of two years from now then cool. Content people, it's all about content.

No, it'll end up being about digital downloads after consumers give up waiting for one format to emerge.

sj001 · 11-01-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB88

No, I am realistic.

Yeah?

So where are your FACTS that Blu-ray is failing?

The Big Blue · 11-01-2007, 03:35 PM

Good God.

I think I'd rather have the 300 grain threads at this point.

Razzy · 11-01-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don

NICE...

Almost 2000 posts and you didn't know that.

BTBuck1 · 11-01-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB88

Yea great, anyone with an opinion that you don't like or isn't in alignment with YOUR thoughts. I am a Blu-ray supporter who actually cares about the viability and future of the format. You, on the other hand... Well we will just leave it at that.

BigB, I think we are all here for Blu-ray and we all care about the viability of the format. Those who aren't are banned, or on their way out

can we stop with the finger pointing please? Thanks! We all share the same desire and want the same final outcome. lets stay unified and not argue, instead lets hold discussions with a little respect and humility.

sj001 · 11-01-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB88

Oh another PhD joining us in this discussion? So, PhD, what have they done, raise their player prices?, kept their title prices high? and haven't placed any pressure on Fox to lower theirs? Let Paramount/Dreamworks slip away? Come on PhD, what have they done? The only thing I can see are the Disney BOGO (Temporary response to TF, just lke getting Fox to release titles again after the Paramount/DW debacle) or Sony's new 40GB PS3 (A great move, but is not enough to counteract Toshiba's "cheap" strategy). Where is Panasonic, Pioneer, Fox, et al When will they join the fight? Sorry PhD, the BDA has done NOTHING for months now, face the truth, they have no clue what they are doing and it is killing Blu-ray.

Personal attacks, and don't you think this paragraph is laced with sarcasm, and a little condescending/mocking?

I'm sure things will calm down in a day or so.

BigB88 · 11-01-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Dude, you need to chill out!

They've done NOTHING?

Where is Panasonic? Did you not see the press release of their new profile 1.1 player?

Where is FOX? Did you not see all of the new releases they are and have come out with?

How in the hell is it killing Blu-ray? Do you have numbers to back that up?
Ummm, probably not.

Answer 1: YES

Answer 2: At $499!!! Come on, who is going to buy this, I'd rather get a $399 PS3

Answer 3: At almost $40 a title!! Who sis going to buy this?

Answer 4: The top 3 answers.

And no, I don't have the numbers yet, let's just wait until Toshiba dumps their 600,000 crappy players on to the market at $170, then we can talk numbers and statistics.

thrlride · 11-01-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumar 4U

Hell... HD-DUD's can even give the A-2 player for free, but theres no need to worry about nothing, they dont have many good "TITLES", maybe 10 by the most. When people look for their Disney in their 30 day return policy, stores will have a bunch of players shoving down the sewer...

They don't have good titles? I guess blu-ray doesn't either since the majority of releases are on both.

The Don · 11-01-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Razzy

Almost 2000 posts and you didn't know that.

what can I say?.....I umm......

MatrixS2000 · 11-01-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thrlride

I remember when the PS3 dropped from $600 to $500 after only a few months of sales.... oh wait.

your comparing a drop in price of 20% (PS3) to a drop in price of over 50% (A3) seems like an inventory clearout of the A3 to me....

11-01-2007, 03:32 PM	#763
Rumar 4U Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Hell... HD-DUD's can even give the A-2 player for free, but theres no need to worry about nothing, they dont have many good "TITLES", maybe 10 by the most. When people look for their Disney in their 30 day return policy, stores will have a bunch of players shoving down the sewer...

11-01-2007, 03:33 PM	#765
Terjyn Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:122	BigB88 is the guy who comes here every monday to post the sky is falling because on DVDEmpire HD-DVD is leading the week...only he's done it on a grand scale. Microsoft/Toshiba are effectively paying people ~90$ to get an HD-DVD addon for the 360, yet somehow or another a 0$ buy is the end of the world.

11-01-2007, 03:35 PM	#773
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	Good God. I think I'd rather have the 300 grain threads at this point.

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