Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[petermaverick]

Originally Posted by starmike

The quote says DVDs, no mention of blu-ray.

Wait and see then, but don't raise your hopes either.
Just having two rather than three physical movie formats would be a top idea, like LPs and cassette in days of old

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

We already forewarned by Ingram Entertainment ceasing disc distribution which I said we would see the effects for a few months. Many here dismissed it because who is Ingram. Now one of the biggest sellers of titles in the US, a lot of which came from Ingram, is ceasing sales too.

Not so sure about the biggest sellers anymore, I saw a break down, and Best Buy is only 4% of discs sales. Even Target is bigger at 6%.

Walmart (45%) and Amazon (18%) account for nearly 2/3rd of the market.

fitprod

[ChrisLikesBatman]

Originally Posted by SleazyForWeasley

So no more physical media from them altogether, or specifically in stores?

None altogether. Best Buy won't sell them in stores or online.

[CyberAthlete]

Originally Posted by petermaverick

Yes 100 with regard selling 4K TVs then dropping 4K physical media

Streaming is a reasonable alternative to rentin

I bet you my entire home theater that 99% of people think they are streaming and watching everything in 4k because they have a 4k TV.

The average consumer (those here are not the average consumer).

I know my friends think all shows on Netflix are in 4k, especially if they have their 4k streaming package. Their 1080p looks darn good to be honest that even I am hard pressed to tell the difference at times.

Home theater, sound bars, surround sound elevates the experience for streaming because all shows now stream in surround sound (5.1, 7.1, Atmos) and most consumers don't even have a 5.1 setup. Most settle for a soundbar and call it a day.

I'll still buy physical media but personally I stopped buying on release date years ago as I find if you just wait a few weeks, the same movie can be had for almost half the price.

I do give Best Buy all of my other business: tablets, laptops, appliances, TV you name it. They get 110% of my business there.

[ChrisLikesBatman]

Originally Posted by Ruined

is this like people being comically in denial when claiming a 25mbps 4K stream/download is the same thing as a 80mbps 4K disc?

Birates will increase, hopefully sooner rather than later. Sony already has a service that streams 4K at 80mbps. I could see companies like Apple offering something like that too, for every movie they offer on Apple TV/iTunes.

[atver]

I have no doubt Best Buy will be gone in two to five years. Circuit City, Sears, Radio Shack, all gone. Partly because the times are changing but mostly because CEO's have no incentive to manage a company wisely anymore. They get paid millions per year no matter how badly they run a company into the ground, then if they do get canned they get a multimillion dollar payout and move on to the next company. Bob Nardelli is a perfect example, he nearly ruins Home Depot, is allowed to resign and given over 200 million, then Chrysler Corp. is stupid enough to hire him as CEO. It's just a game to these morons and they don't care if a company goes in the toilet or not.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by ChrisLikesBatman

Birates will increase, hopefully sooner rather than later. Sony already has a service that streams 4K at 80mbps. I could see companies like Apple offering something like that too, for every movie they offer on Apple TV/iTunes.

I highly doubt they will in any long-term commercially viable form, they never did for 1080p to any decent amount after decades even when the capability is there.

The bottom line is the same people completely satisfied with streaming, are the same people completely satisfied with 25mbps. More bandwidth costs more money for both the service provider and the ISP and the majority of people simply don't care, they'd rather save even $2/month than get 80mbps video.

[FlamedLiquid]

Originally Posted by PoLskA

exclusives moving elsewhere is fine by me... what concerns me is where?
Target is phasing out physical media in stores and Walmart is the worst with shipping. Walmart is also always delayed.
For all their faults, almost all my pre-orders from Best Buy would arrive Sat or Mon before release day... with Amazon, Target and Walmart, 9 out of 10 are after release day.
For regular releases, not a big deal but when it comes to limited steelbooks and the damage factor... its a big deal...

Walmart has already started.

I say just get rid of exclusives all together though.

[FlamedLiquid]

I wonder if we will get a Marvels steelbook before Best Buy stops.

[Blu-Curry]

I knew it was only a matter of time since they barely carry any in Canada over the last few years, but it's still sad nonetheless. I have so many fond memories of perusing the aisles and aisles of movies in alphabetical order, or scrounging through the bargain bin to find some great deals. Also looking through paper flyers every week to look at all the movie and video game deals. Not to mention going out really early for Boxing Day with family/friends to score some amazing deals. The 90's to early 2010's were great for physical media. In-store shopping just continues to become more boring and boring. My future children will never know what the excitement was like (nor going out to rent a movie/video game on a Friday night).

[Dragun]

Originally Posted by CyberAthlete

I know my friends think all shows on Netflix are in 4k, especially if they have their 4k streaming package. Their 1080p looks darn good to be honest that even I am hard pressed to tell the difference at times.

This is the main reason I cancelled my 4K Netflix plan, after having it for a year or two. I also don't like the their 4K offerings enough to pay extra to see them in 4K

[El Rey]

Originally Posted by MileHigh AI

You do realize your data didn't actually disprove anything that I was saying....right?
Hell nothing you said here disproved anything I said.
Once again, it's hilarious you mentioned reading comprehension skills when you yourself completely missed the mark there. Now I would break down everything in the simplest of terms for you and walk you through it since you've made it clear that's what you need but I've wasted enough time dealing with your asinine train of thought. I'm done with you now.

wasn't "my" data, it was from DEG, referenced by Variety who also added this tidbit

Ingram Entertainment, a leading DVD distributor, recently announced that it would wind down operations after more than 35 years in business. The company said it will “continue to provide catalog product” to customers into the fourth quarter of 2023.

but go off

I can't refute anything you said because it was pure anecdotal nonsense, supported by nothing but your dumb feelings.
But if you want to say I didn't address anything you said, ok fine. You also didn't address the Best Buy employee in the thread who said they saw this coming years ago. Is he a liar? Does his anecdotal evidence matter less because it doesn't support your stupid claim.
Since you operate on the anecdotal - over the past couple years everyone has noted that their local BB have devoted less and less space to physical media. Within the last month or so there has also been a lot mentioned of Target either completely getting rid of their media section or devoting a tiny endcap or boxes to it. Beyond those accounts I have also seen this firsthand at multiple Target locations.
Now why would Target do that?

[CyberAthlete]

and for those saying well Best Buy is ceding their business to Target. Target's physical media section, games and movies is 1/3rd of the size it was 5 years ago. It's not getting any bigger or better.

Their physical media section is shrinking year by year. I don't think the announcement of Best Buy will do anything for Target, rather I think it's a matter of time before Target makes their own announcement ending their sales of physical media for movies.

People and myself still prefer to buy physical media in games is because of resale value. Games hold their values MUCH more than movies do. And point in check, I have been a fan of Diablo since the first one was released on PC. I bought D4 Digital copy for $90+tax and have not played it since 2 weeks after release. Wish I could sell it and get most of my money back but no, because it's digital all $97 of my dollars are gone.

Maybe in 1-2 years it'll be in a place where it's fun to play, but as for now, I can't deal with the shortcomings of it.

That's why I hate buying digital games. If you don't like it, too bad, you're stuck.

[teddyballgame]

Originally Posted by ChrisLikesBatman

Birates will increase, hopefully sooner rather than later. Sony already has a service that streams 4K at 80mbps. I could see companies like Apple offering something like that too, for every movie they offer on Apple TV/iTunes.

You would like to think but I don't know. Bandwidth isn't free and most companies see the financial incentive to keep the quality as low as they can get away with while being just good enough for the mainstream casual audiences. There's a large swath of subscribers who gladly pay $75 a month youtube TV and the 720p quality is horrific but they don't care.

[BobbyMcGee]

I've been going to BB less and less over the past few years anyways so no big loss I suppose. With physical media gone, I will probably visit BB once or twice a year at best. Most of the other items they sell in-store I would probably buy elsewhere or on their own website.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Ruined

is this like people being comically in denial when claiming a 25mbps 4K stream/download is the same thing as a 80mbps 4K disc?

Show me where I said that

[Just Myself]

So I guess steelbooks are gonna be Walmart exclusives now? How gross.. oh well.

Best Buy
1983 - 2024

[Phillip c. Niethe]

Jokes on BESTBUY, I spend about 3 grand in physical media a year and EVERYTHING else I get there I get as a thank you for carrying physical media. Guess I’ll be paying off my BB card in Jan 2024 and purchasing my next flatscreen and back up UHD disc players from Walmart or another retailer. Other items I have in save that I’ll be switching include a tea kettle, my next washer and dryer (which are long over due to be replaced) and that’s about it…aside from 2 PS5 games that should have already come out that now are pushed back to 2025 (also, now a different retailer) not that Blu-ray.com is run by BESTBUY lol, they will never know my future purchases and their loss of sales but hey, gotta reward the people that care
(EDIT) unless they keep UHD films, then I’ll continue…

[nicholasH]

By this trend, I can see major Hollywood studios will close their home video department by 2025. And for physical media distributions, they will likely just stop them permanently or outsource to 3rd party.

In the future, you can expect most of the movies that are not box office hits or critically acclaimed will be available on digital only after their initial cinema release.

[jan_tran]

Originally Posted by 1924

Hope some filmmakers speak out in favor of physical media like they did with theaters

Encouraging people to go to the theater isn’t the same as encouraging people to bring more “clutter” into your home (no offense to us collectors)