Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by xtop

yeah i'm actually kind of worried to post some of my comments now after seeing people getting banned simply for saying something bad about blu-ray. just because we prefer blu-ray doesn't mean we have to agree with everything they do or not side with hd dvd on something.

i love blu-ray, but that shouldn't mean i have to spout blu-ray only from my mouth...does it?

I think so.

[m_tyson]

Originally Posted by GoldenRedux

CED

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacit...lectronic_Disc

in case you're not familiar with the term (I wasn't).

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

Classic Bait and switch tactic.

Advertise a cheap product that you know you do not have in quantities (with very fine prints: Limited to product in stocks), and then hope that because the client came in to buy your cheaper product, he'll still come home with the higher priced version.

Hopefully tht 'll come right back at em with people getting p'ed off and buying Blu Ray units intead.

LMAO! Dream on!!! Give me a break, no one with meager incomes will go to the store for something that is $200 and drop $500 instead....you're kiddin yourself.

[GoldenRedux]

Originally Posted by m_tyson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacit...lectronic_Disc

in case you're not familiar with the term (I wasn't).

What that article doesn't mention is the fire sale that RCA had on CED players shortly before they stopped manufacturing them.

[thegland]

Some of you sound scared and threatened by this $99 sale.Relax,take a deep breath.The war still has quite a long while to go.

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by StilettoViper

LMAO! Dream on!!! Give me a break, no one with meager incomes will go to the store for something that is $200 and drop $500 instead....you're kiddin yourself.

But it's 1080p with Disney!

[xtop]

Originally Posted by StilettoViper

LMAO! Dream on!!! Give me a break, no one with meager incomes will go to the store for something that is $200 and drop $500 instead....you're kiddin yourself.

nobody with a meager income is going to buy a 100 dollar hd player knowing there's 2 competing formats out there.

people who have the money on the other hand, who see this as the perfect time to go hd, find out there are no 100 dollar players in stock, might get talked into spending a bit more and getting a more expensive hd dvd player.

[Nicadian]

ok so they are selling the a2 for 99 ok cool whatever. After that there will be no more, that is it, discontinued. Then u will have the the 3rd gen hd dvd players which are almost the same price as the new blu ray players. This is temporary. Like any war, when one side is losing, acts of desperation come.

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by xtop

nobody with a meager income is going to buy a 100 dollar hd player knowing there's 2 competing formats out there.

Ummm how do you know? LOL I know my parents might. They know nothing of the differences of bluray and hd-dvd but they know prices of products and wouldn't much care about the differences when comparing $500 vs $199. They just got a new HDTV and love having an HD picture. If a salesman gives them a choice of watching HD movie for $199 vs $500, i know which one they are choosing no matter how much i talk up blu-ray to them. That's the average consumer right there....sorry face reality! WE re early adopters and educated consumers. People like my folks and 95-99% of the rest are not....

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by thrlride

But it's 1080p with Disney!

LOL!

[xtop]

Originally Posted by StilettoViper

Ummm how do you know? LOL I know my parents might. They know nothing of the differences of bluray and hd-dvd but they know prices of products and wouldn't much care about the differences when comparing $500 vs $199. They just got a new HDTV and love having an HD picture. If a salesman gives them a choice of watching HD movie for $199 vs $500, i know which one they are choosing no matter how much i talk up blu-ray to them. That's the average consumer right there....sorry face reality!

no offense, then youre parents are dumb. without knowing the facts and just blindly paying for a player because of price is dumb. and i honestly know a lot of people who are waiting to see who wins, and they know of these cheaper prices.

[Sleuth255]

Originally Posted by thrlride

I think the american public will gladly pay $400 for a BD player that plays disney movies instead of a $100 HD player that will play dreamworks movies.

That's just my point: the majority of the american public won't learn this until after they start looking for movies to put into their shiny new A2.

Lets face facts here: while we love to bash hd-dud, there are good titles available there too. The masses won't (immediately) toss their A2 b/c there's no Disney. They'll find title or two to buy.

So what's the size of this "bump" going to be? I don't know, but I do know that it will prolong the war to some amount if the BDA does nothing, thus keeping cheap and plentiful Blu-ray titles a bit further off.

Sony's PS3 campaign is welcome news here btw. It may represent a different tactic: arming the masses with facts before they do the compulsive buy.

Heck, if the average consumer knew you couldn't scratch a Blu-ray disk easily he/she'd think twice about the A2 (especially if he/she had young children to deal with). Some BDA associate should put this simple fact into an ad campaign...

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by xtop

no offense, then youre parents are dumb. without knowing the facts and just blindly paying for a player because of price is dumb. and i honestly know a lot of people who are waiting to see who wins, and they know of these cheaper prices.

Of course they are dumb about something like this but so is like i said, 95-99% of the rest of the population when you are considering mass adoption. People want easy and cheap. PERIOD.

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by Sleuth255

That's just my point: the majority of the american public won't learn this until after they start looking for movies to put into their shiny new A2.

Lets face facts here: while we love to bash hd-dud, there are good titles available there too. The masses won't (immediately) toss their A2 b/c there's no Disney. They'll find title or two to buy.

So what's the size of this "bump" going to be? I don't know, but I do know that it will prolong the war to some amount if the BDA does nothing, thus keeping cheap and plentiful Blu-ray titles a bit further off.

Sony's PS3 campaign is welcome news here btw. It may represent a different tactic: arming the masses with facts before they do the compulsive buy.

Heck, if the average consumer knew you couldn't scratch a Blu-ray disk easily he/she'd think twice about the A2 (especially if he/she had young children to deal with). Some BDA associate should put this simple fact into an ad campaign...

Also if millions of HD-DVD players suddenly fly off the shelf, i think you'd have to consider becomming neutral if you are a large studio. As many should know, it's all about making $$. Loyalty only goes so far.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Sleuth255

That's just my point: the majority of the american public won't learn this until after they start looking for movies to put into their shiny new A2.

Lets face facts here: while we love to bash hd-dud, there are good titles available there too. The masses won't (immediately) toss their A2 b/c there's no Disney. They'll find title or two to buy.

So what's the size of this "bump" going to be? I don't know, but I do know that it will prolong the war to some amount if the BDA does nothing, thus keeping cheap and plentiful Blu-ray titles a bit further off.

Sony's PS3 campaign is welcome news here btw. It may represent a different tactic: arming the masses with facts before they do the compulsive buy.

Heck, if the average consumer knew you couldn't scratch a Blu-ray disk easily he/she'd think twice about the A2 (especially if he/she had young children to deal with). Some BDA associate should put this simple fact into an ad campaign...

finally, other members who know what they're talking about

but yeah, i think the new campaign by the ps3 should help to an extent. i think most adults ignore playstation ad's, so hopefully they'll cater to the older crowd as well.

but no scratches, yeah..that should be a big selling point for people with kid's. i've seen how some people treat their media, its amazing

[xtop]

Originally Posted by StilettoViper

Of course they are dumb about something like this but so is like i said, 95-99% of the rest of the population when you are considering mass adoption. People want easy and cheap. PERIOD.

i guess neither of us can prove it either way. but from the people i know..they're just waiting it out, no matter how low prices get

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by xtop

i guess neither of us can prove it either way. but from the people i know..they're just waiting it out, no matter how low prices get

I hope you are right but I doubt it.... $100 is pretty cheap if you can play HD movies for any of us much less Joe Wally World. Come on...you have to admit that.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by mj23007

Simply put hd a2 is 199, and this week at walmart 98. Blu ray cant even compete with that pricing. Also, the movies need to come down in pricing to 19.99 at least! Oh and where is my dts hd support for the ps3!

The next player I buy will be between $1200 and $2000. I'm happy with their pricing. Selling players for $99 to people who won't buy movies isn't gonna win the hearts of studios.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by StilettoViper

I hope you are right but I doubt it.... $100 is pretty cheap if you can play HD movies for any of us much less Joe Wally World. Come on...you have to admit that.

oh i completely agree. no doubt. i mean, i i'd love to pick one up myself if it had the features, there's a number of hd dvd movies i'd love to have and am frankly tired of waiting for. but you and me both know better than to waste money on it lol

[Sleuth255]

They'll buy movies if they get a player for Christmas from a well wishing but ignorant source.