Oh noes teh sky is falling! - Page 67 - Blu-ray Forum

onanie · 11-02-2007, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by br85

PiP of course. I went to the movies last night to see saw 4 and to my horror, it featured NO PiP. I yelled out at the top of my lungs, "HEY! WHERE'S THE PICTURE IN PICTURE? YOU'RE NOT SCREENING A BLU-RAY VERSION OF THIS MOVIE, ARE YOU?" I WANT MY MONEY BACK!"

L.M.A.O

LOL, that's a great one.

tron3 · 11-02-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Copywriter

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2. For those that think Spider-man is dead without Toby M., I'd like to point your attention to the Batman movie franchise. That should be all that needs to be said on the subject.

C'mon, we just got used to the fact, and eventually rationalized acceptance based on how much we like each actor's depiction of the bat. While the movies stood out, where is the love for that familiar face? Michael Keating was a great batman, but still not sure that "Mr. Mom" should have been cast.

Toby IS Spiderman - period. Kirsten IS MaryJane - period. You could get away with not having Kirsten because Spidey has had several loves, just move on to the next.

Would Spiderman 4 go over big with the right script? Sure it would, because it is Spiderman and they all look the same in costume. But the nuance is lost. No more movie magic.

Sleuth255 · 11-02-2007, 01:44 PM

Some Quick questions:

Who here believes/doesn't believe that having a sub $200 blu-ray player at K-Mart/WalMart/BB will help blu-ray's chances of winning the format war?

ok...

Now who here thinks/doesn't think that having a sub $200 blu-ray player at K-Mart/WalMart/BB will help blu win sooner?

For myself, I "believe" in question 1 and "think" in question 2. Am I wrong to have this opinion? If so, why?

Trebar · 11-02-2007, 02:15 PM

I will start with that I didn't buy an A2 but was thinking about it. I needed to get some shopping done anyway and if there was no line, then maybe I'll get my feet wet with a $99 player until I upgrade my TV to 1080p.

I am format neutral leaning BD due to the companies that back blu just so you know.

I should have taken a picture with my camera phone. At 8am there were 150 people at the electronics checkout waiting on 20ish players. I continued over to the software aisle to get what I needed for my kid when I bumped into two friends. They said that yes, they were there for the HD-DVD and I asked how long they had been there? 6 am! and they were about 20 back in line! After talking with them they seemed to know about the war and all the details of the player. To them it didn't matter since they had smaller 1080i TVs like me.

So, I go over and get the software and about 10 after they announce that all the players are gone. The line dissapeared except for a dozen or so waiting on laptops and TV's.

I am not trying to spread fear or panic guys, but Blu-Ray really needs to have an answer for this. I am not a console gamer and would rather have a nicely appointed stand alone that would at least have a semblance of price comparison ($250-$300 for 1080p). Toshiba might not have a sound buisness model...but it is moving units and there is a large demand for them.

Just so we are clear, I don't have an agenda other than having the war end one way or another. At less than $100 that player would have been the start I wanted with little price risk after all the free titles. If Sony then put out a $200 player I would buy that one. If there was only one format I would pay $300 knowing I had full studio support.

Now it's time to install Lego Star Wars.

SNAP · 11-02-2007, 02:16 PM

Did you notice how many HDDVD movies they had??

SS316SRV · 11-02-2007, 02:18 PM

There really is no demand for HD A2s. There is only demand when the price is SO low that it is illegal to sell them in some states. Nobody wanted these things before.

mike_schultz · 11-02-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

There really is no demand for HD A2s. There is only demand when the price is SO low that it is illegal to sell them in some states. Nobody wanted these things before.

I remember that Wal-Mart got sued a while back for selling their products below variable cost. The lawsuit did not stick, but the point is Wal-Mart does this stuff all the time. I guess Best Buy is doing the same thing too. I do not know how they get away with it. Then again, it is their competitors that have to sue them, so if everyone is doing it, I guess no one will make a stink out of it.

CptGreedle · 11-02-2007, 02:22 PM

Its only the price that is driving this, and yet Toshiba isn't making a dime off these.
BDA better come out with an answer soon, or we will be in a longer war than we hoped for.

Trebar · 11-02-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNAP

Did you notice how many HDDVD movies they had??

About 30 titles, most had been placed that day there. Last week they had only Transformers and maybe 2 others. Blu-Ray had about the same at this Supercenter. The prices ranged from $18-35 depending on title. Planet Earth I think was the one on the high side. I didn't stick around to see if people were grabbing those. Doubtful with all the free stuff that they would get more right then.

flyingdutchman · 11-02-2007, 02:23 PM

It was a clearance sale on a model that couldn't sell.

stephenj · 11-02-2007, 02:23 PM

I'm format neutral, owning an HD-D1 and a PS3.

Today, i went to Wal-Mart and bought one of those $99 A2s.

Which got me to thinking ... I bought this as a second player for my den, so it won't result in me buying any more HD-DVD discs than i already do.

If most folks buying these A2s are like me, then HD-DVD won't benefit much where it really counts - disc sales.

Seabass · 11-02-2007, 02:23 PM

How many HD-DVD movies were they buying?

Spankey · 11-02-2007, 02:23 PM

Another day, more low post count people chiming in about the "urge" to buy the cheap HD-DVD players at Wal-Mart. Anyone see a trend?

Bluray4Me · 11-02-2007, 02:24 PM

This was my local Wal-mart's HD movie selection this morning.....

Porscheman · 11-02-2007, 02:28 PM

very good point. movie sales will drive this.

Honestly, i wonder if wal-mart focuses on blu after this push... seems like many stores are going to more blu space anyways... maybe this is their last ditch effort.

Totally agree on the second player scenario as well.

SS316SRV · 11-02-2007, 02:28 PM

HOLY CRAP!!!

The HD DVD A2 IS SELLING AT $98!!! This is news to me!

*Sorry that was mean. I think I may have snapped though...so many $98 A2 threads...so many...

Sonny · 11-02-2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluray4Me

This was my local Wal-mart's HD movie selection this morning.....

5 or 6 BD to 3 hd

mystiksuicide · 11-02-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

HOLY CRAP!!!

The HD DVD A2 IS SELLING AT $98!!! This is news to me!

*Sorry that was mean. I think I may have snapped though...so many $98 A2 threads...so many...

lol, no comment

MrBogey · 11-02-2007, 02:30 PM

My local Walmart had an HDTV display all running off of a PS3 playing Spiderman 3.

Terjyn · 11-02-2007, 02:30 PM

I just found something amusing...most of these 98$ firesale purchases are being done at Walmart, which means that any HD-DVDs purchased with them won't count towards the official numbers everyone uses.

This amuses me greatly.

11-02-2007, 02:15 PM	#1324
Trebar Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Texas Blu-ray collection:124	Just got back from Wal-Mart I will start with that I didn't buy an A2 but was thinking about it. I needed to get some shopping done anyway and if there was no line, then maybe I'll get my feet wet with a $99 player until I upgrade my TV to 1080p. I am format neutral leaning BD due to the companies that back blu just so you know. I should have taken a picture with my camera phone. At 8am there were 150 people at the electronics checkout waiting on 20ish players. I continued over to the software aisle to get what I needed for my kid when I bumped into two friends. They said that yes, they were there for the HD-DVD and I asked how long they had been there? 6 am! and they were about 20 back in line! After talking with them they seemed to know about the war and all the details of the player. To them it didn't matter since they had smaller 1080i TVs like me. So, I go over and get the software and about 10 after they announce that all the players are gone. The line dissapeared except for a dozen or so waiting on laptops and TV's. I am not trying to spread fear or panic guys, but Blu-Ray really needs to have an answer for this. I am not a console gamer and would rather have a nicely appointed stand alone that would at least have a semblance of price comparison ($250-$300 for 1080p). Toshiba might not have a sound buisness model...but it is moving units and there is a large demand for them. Just so we are clear, I don't have an agenda other than having the war end one way or another. At less than $100 that player would have been the start I wanted with little price risk after all the free titles. If Sony then put out a $200 player I would buy that one. If there was only one format I would pay $300 knowing I had full studio support. Now it's time to install Lego Star Wars.

11-02-2007, 02:23 PM	#1331
stephenj Banned Member since:Aug 2007	$98 HD-A2 format war implications ? I'm format neutral, owning an HD-D1 and a PS3. Today, i went to Wal-Mart and bought one of those $99 A2s. Which got me to thinking ... I bought this as a second player for my den, so it won't result in me buying any more HD-DVD discs than i already do. If most folks buying these A2s are like me, then HD-DVD won't benefit much where it really counts - disc sales.

11-02-2007, 01:44 PM	#1323
Sleuth255 Member Member since:Sep 2007	Some Quick questions: Who here believes/doesn't believe that having a sub $200 blu-ray player at K-Mart/WalMart/BB will help blu-ray's chances of winning the format war? ok... Now who here thinks/doesn't think that having a sub $200 blu-ray player at K-Mart/WalMart/BB will help blu win sooner? For myself, I "believe" in question 1 and "think" in question 2. Am I wrong to have this opinion? If so, why?

11-02-2007, 02:16 PM	#1325
SNAP Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:HILLSBOROUGH, NJ	Did you notice how many HDDVD movies they had??

11-02-2007, 02:18 PM	#1326
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	There really is no demand for HD A2s. There is only demand when the price is SO low that it is illegal to sell them in some states. Nobody wanted these things before.

11-02-2007, 02:22 PM	#1328
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Its only the price that is driving this, and yet Toshiba isn't making a dime off these. BDA better come out with an answer soon, or we will be in a longer war than we hoped for.

11-02-2007, 02:23 PM	#1330
flyingdutchman Active Member Member since:May 2003	It was a clearance sale on a model that couldn't sell.

11-02-2007, 02:23 PM	#1332
Seabass Member Member since:Oct 2007	How many HD-DVD movies were they buying?

11-02-2007, 02:23 PM	#1333
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	Another day, more low post count people chiming in about the "urge" to buy the cheap HD-DVD players at Wal-Mart. Anyone see a trend?

11-02-2007, 02:24 PM	#1334
Bluray4Me Member Member since:Oct 2007	This was my local Wal-mart's HD movie selection this morning.....

11-02-2007, 02:28 PM	#1335
Porscheman Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	very good point. movie sales will drive this. Honestly, i wonder if wal-mart focuses on blu after this push... seems like many stores are going to more blu space anyways... maybe this is their last ditch effort. Totally agree on the second player scenario as well.

11-02-2007, 02:28 PM	#1336
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	HOLY CRAP!!! The HD DVD A2 IS SELLING AT $98!!! This is news to me! *Sorry that was mean. I think I may have snapped though...so many $98 A2 threads...so many...

11-02-2007, 02:30 PM	#1339
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	My local Walmart had an HDTV display all running off of a PS3 playing Spiderman 3.

11-02-2007, 02:30 PM	#1340
Terjyn Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:122	I just found something amusing...most of these 98$ firesale purchases are being done at Walmart, which means that any HD-DVDs purchased with them won't count towards the official numbers everyone uses. This amuses me greatly.

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